THFC - The Hypocritical Football Club

we all remember Spurs Chairman Daniel Levy and his whining over Ferguson's alleged 'tapping up' of star striker Dimitar Berbatov. Mr Levy branded Ferguson 'arrogant' and 'hypocritical' over comments alleged to have come from Ferguson regarding his player. Levy went on to call both Man United and Liverpool 'disgraceful' and claiming they have "systematically been working to prise the players away from us".

Since this rant that even ferguson described as 'embarrassing' Tottenham Hotspur have become embroiled in similar saga's themselves. firstly they steal Bostock from Palace for a nominal fee by luring him with several promises and offers of dizzying sums of money for such a young kid, ie turning his head then we now have the ever chatty Mr Redknapp.

The squeaky clean Mr Redknapp, the second manager to be poached from another club in under a year, has decided it is his business to comment on not just another club's player but also any possible bids from another club to another clubs player. quite what business it has of his im unaware but im quite sure this is exactly the thing Levy was so against. the exact quote from Mr Redknapp is as follows...

"Bellamy? I think there will be more offers - Manchester City are supposed to be very interested - but he belongs to West Ham and if they decide they do not want to sell him, then it's up to them.

"I'll speak to the chairman, but if Man City are in for him then it is very difficult to compete with them. They can throw millions and millions at everything."

this despite several statements from West Ham stating they will not be selling their first team players.

also Defoe: "If he [Defoe] ever came back up for sale then I'm sure we would be interested," said Redknapp

maybe im missing something and this situation is completely different so i would like somebody to point this out to me. the yid following have also been very quiet on the issue which is suprising given the moral lectures they were giving man united fans and ferguson during the Berbatov saga. has the cat got their tongue or is this tapping up and talking about other club's players perfectly acceptable?

It has been revealed this morning that Tottenham have had another bid of £12 million for Bellamy rejected....

Why can't Spurs get it in their heads that Bellamy is not for sale at any price and they are wasting their time?

If there is any evidence that Rednapp has been making illegal advances to our player I think Tottenham
should face the full force of the law and be fined or even docked points for just doing what they like.............

For the 150th time none of West Ham's top players are for sale...Do you comprende Tottenham Hotspur?

I agree that Daniel Levy is a hypocrite for having a got a Fergie over Berbatov but letting his manager do just the same thing.

There is nothing wrong with making bids for players Hams. You say that non of your players are for sale but you can't prove that, nearly every manager says that he won't sell there players but if a big enough bid comes in every player is for sale. Although I don't think we will sign Bellamy if a big enough bid was made you would sell him.

I agree that Harry shouldn't be talking directly about other teams player's, Ferguson shouldn't of done what he did with Berbatov, we all know that there was something not right with the Berbatov deal. Levy can't say things about other clubs tapping up players or whatever when he clearly does it with young players and his manager goes around doing what he claimed Rafa did with Keane.

Levy is doing a good thing with the financial side of things and he is also done well in getting us this proposed new stadium and first team training facility but he really isn't a football man so should keep his mouth shut.

I think if it is proven that we have made illegal approaches for Bellamy, Defoe etc. then we should be fined. I am not sure it is fair to dock points though as there is clearly more of it going on not just with our manager. If we were docked points then although I can't say exactly who are doing similar things it clearly happens.

The rot starts at the top - I am Spurs trough and trough since 1987, I have got the old "Audere est Facere" crest tattooed big style on my back and my room is full of Spurs souvenirs, but I have to say that the current politics of the management gets turning on my nerves, too.

It all started when the Spurs management complained about an important game vs West Ham being lost because of food poisoning and because the FA did not postphone the match.

Then all the mess with transfers, money, the change of the club crest, a [beep!] new season shirt produced (I quite liked the Kappa one, why they turned to crap cheap 3rd world country style supplier Puma I will never know), etc.

If I would live in London I would kick the managements arse and hunt for their scalps

I haven't really got a great deal to add to what Yobs has said.

There's nothing wrong with any club making offers for players, regardless of whether or not the approached club claims that the players in question are 'not for sale'. Any player is for sale at the right price. In the case of Bellamy I can only hope that West Ham continue to reject our offers because I don't like the bloke, even though he's a decent player.

Redknapp shouldn't really be making remarks about other clubs making offers for certain players. The remarks themselves are innocuous enough and there's no real intent behind them on Redknapp's part but they're still inappropriate. They're unlikely to 'unsettle' any players but at the end of the day, he should try and keep his remarks focused on our own dealings if he wants to avoid any trouble.

I agree with Mont there - when all is said and done, it is no different to comments from Fergie & Co which put Levy's back up.

I can understand the Shammer fans annoyance, but it happens - always has done and no doubt will continue doing so.

Harry at it again.

Naughty Tottenham.

And anyway.....Stewart Downing!!!???


Bwwaaahhhhhhhaaaaahhhhh

Daniel levy is a little runt with no backbone. He will squeal to the bigger boys when people bully him, yet he is a secret bully himself.

Spurs and Harry have only talked publicly about players we have actually made a official bid for.

What is wrong with that? Obviously we are interested in the player, it is no secret once a bid has been made. When a reporter asks Harry about the bid he made is he supposed to say 'no comment'?

Its a bit different to Man U's tactics of leaking stories to the press for 18 months solid about the imminent transfer of another teams player to them, or getting one of their players to present a Spurs player with a United shirt at England camp, or actually posting the press rumours on their official website with a photo of Berbatov on their front page!!!! Show me where Spurs have done these things?

If Harry Rednapp keeps talking publicly about say Craig Bellamy
in the end he will get what he wants and make the player so unsettled he will want to leave the club.

Its a bit like if I decided to chat up my mates girlfriend and kept saying how beautiful and charming she was
hoping that she would dump him and leave him for myself instead as I would be a better boyfriend etc....

Not that I would ever do something so terrible!!

We would prefer it if Spurs manager would stop talking about Bellamy as we don't want him to leave......

If West Ham get new owners soon and made a bid for a Tottenham player.........

It wouldnt be nice if Zola started saying how much we'd love to sign Jonathan Woodgate if he was the player we wanted would it?

And i would prefer it if my girlfriend had the same oral skills as Jenna Jameson but thats not reality either.

Spurs made a bid for Bellamy, it was rejected so we cant talk to the player but I dont see a problem with Harry discussing that bid in the public domain at all.

We are a publicly listed company after all and if any PLC was in the bidding process for a multi million pound asset it would be open for discussion.

It is a small but key difference to your example of coveting your mates girlfriend or Sir Alex's 18 month long pursuit of Berbatov where he made no official approach to THFC regarding the player at all and did not bid for him.

Atleast we are going thru the proper channels as we are supposed to by registering bids for your players. It is then up to West Ham to reject or accept the bid. Dont give me this drivel about now that we are talking about the bid that West Ham will be forced to sell the player, I can see you blaming us for any sale now. Blame your own club if they accept the money.

Thing is though Big Jono isn't it more about the way Tottenham go about getting the players their after?

You went in for what a 6mil bid for craig bellamy which is a really cheeky offer in my opinion and has me questioning whether this was actually a tactic to just unsettle the player so that he would ask West Ham to leave.

I don't think it's any surprise that Downing has now told Boro (after another 6mil offer from Tottenham) that he now wants to leave the club after hearing Tottenham's interest.

So how do you propose we go after a player then?

If making a bid for them isnt acceptable then how do we make our interest known and try to purchase the player, or is nothing we do ok in your eyes?

I noticed with interest that Jermaine Defoe was missing from Portsmouth line up on Sat....

It seems he had come down with a mystery bug and was ordered to stay in bed all weekend.

It wouldn't have anything to do with Spurs sudden interest in bringing him back to the club by any chance?


Defoe is nasty piece of work who handed in a transfer request the day after West Ham went down in 2002...

He then forced his way out of Spurs as he wasn't playing enough and got a transfer down to Portsmouth....

It wont surprise me if we see him back at Tottenham before the transfer window closes at the end of January.

Harry Rednapps constant talk about other teams players is out of order and unsportsman like in this modern era.

You mark my words........Defoe will be a Spurs player along with Bellamy in the next couple of weeks...............

Come on, give it a rest. We are allowed to make bids for players, infact it is the proper way to go about things. Discussing those bids in public after they have been made isnt against any legal or moral laws in my opinion.

And ok ill mark your words because you are wrong. Only one of those players at the most will move to Spurs, not both.

I haven't ever said you aren't allowed to make a bid for players even ones who play for West Ham....

I just think its wrong to discuss them in public once interest in a player has been officially made...

Its not fair on the club who has received the bid or the player as the public talk will make him unsettled!

I guess we will have to agree to disagree on this one jono

I have clearly won this debate though and have the moral upper hand

Yea right, sarcasm is your friend

Can you tell me why Redknapp discussing a bid hes made would unsettle a player tho? I mean they player already knows of the interest in him, because a bid has been made.

Redknapp or any manager acknowledging that bid when asked by a reporter doesnt change anything.

If the player is that upset by a two minute sound bite of Redknapp saying "Yes you are right, we made a bid but they did not accept, he is a good player which is why we are interested but there is nothing we can do if they dont accept the bid" after he knows all that already from the bid being made then he needs some help.

jono your stance here only highlights why i voted you most biased member.

its clear, redknapp's game. obviously only somebody who sees Mr Levy as a 'legend' (your words) could possibly not see fault or hypocrisy in this.

if you genuinely can not see it you really are a lost cause.

let me ask you this direct question... do you think that the saggy faced brown envelope merchant is entirely innocent with the way he goes about his business?

I didn't think Defoe forced his way out of Spurs at all mate.
I do think however that Redknapp is as crooked as they come. Jono agreed before he joined Spurs also.