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Grass Roots

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As usual the Portugal players and fans can't take constructive critisism. Nobodys asking for them to be expelled, if you used that ruling half the teams (probably most would not be able to play). Portugal are the best (or should that be the worst!)exponents of diving, in what is a competition that has massive world exposure.
How clever is it? You must question some of these players inteligence. To try and con the Ref is one thing, but to try and con a myriad of TV cameras viewing them at every conceivable angle, as well as several million viewers. Most of the must be as thick as they look.
All that is needed is a Ref with the bottle to red card any diving player and it would soon stop. There should also be a video committee to fine players who endulge in what is blatently cheating retrospectively. Hit these con men where it hurts them most.
IN THEIR WALLETS

Youth Academy

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Tsubasa wrote:
Another sore english loser. Pathetic. Plz die...


He doesn't sound very English to me poppet , more Swiss or French Rolling Eyes

Grass Roots

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EnglandHorn wrote:
As usual the Portugal players and fans can't take constructive critisism. Nobodys asking for them to be expelled, if you used that ruling half the teams (probably most would not be able to play). Portugal are the best (or should that be the worst!)exponents of diving, in what is a competition that has massive world exposure.
How clever is it? You must question some of these players inteligence. To try and con the Ref is one thing, but to try and con a myriad of TV cameras viewing them at every conceivable angle, as well as several million viewers. Most of the must be as thick as they look.
All that is needed is a Ref with the bottle to red card any diving player and it would soon stop. There should also be a video committee to fine players who endulge in what is blatently cheating retrospectively. Hit these con men where it hurts them most.
IN THEIR WALLETS


We are bad, that is your opinion. I accept it. But we were in the semi-finals because of our goals, not because some referee marked a bad penalty and gave vantage to some team!!! Did you all for instance realized that some very well behaved (yeah Rolling Eyes ) teams were in the quarters and semi-finals because they benefit referee´s errors? Are we the one´s that cheat?

Grass Roots

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Yes

Young Pro

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I dont think Portugal should be banned because.... we would all miss Ronaldo too much Cool

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EnglandHorn wrote:
Yes


Reason....?

Grass Roots

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I'm not sure what is the point of going on about this all the time. Yes, some Portuguese players dive, but so do players from every country in the world cup, England included. Maybe Portugal dive more than most other teams, but that isn't why they got to the semi-final. Holland and England didn't lose to Potugal because of Portuguese diving; they lost because they weren't good enough to score a goal against them.

Rooney didn't get sent off because of anything Ronaldo did or didn't do - he got sent off because he is a thick little thug who couldn't control his temper; end of story. To be honest, I don't think it made much difference - we didn't look any more likely to score while we had eleven than we did with ten. Basically, we were C R A P.

It's like the infamous Ronaldo wink. We say that he is winking to say "look, I got him sent off", because that is what we want to believe. I think a more likely reason is that he told his team mates before the game that if you wind Rooney up he is likely to lose it and do something stupid, and so his wink just meant "I told you so".

I think it's pathetic that so many England fans swallow all the hype around our team and desperately cling to a belief that we are out because of foreign cheating; we are out because we played about as well as Switzerland and, as a team, forget about how good or not the individuals are, we don't hack it with the real big boys.

P.S. If you're looking for the champion diver in this world cup, forget the Portuguese and watch Signor Perrotta - the guy clearly has an inner-ear problem.

Grass Roots

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how about locking this too?

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kick them out!

Grass Roots

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Don't forget the Italians are champion Divers! Give Portugal a break!

Young Pro

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If Sepp Blatter is serious about the fair play then he should give Cristiano Ronaldo a suspension of some sort.

Grass Roots

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How about suspending Peter C. too? He scored a goal by pulling a T&T player's hair

Young Pro

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lol omg what a cheat he was he put an arm on a defenders shoulder that never happens in football does it Rolling Eyes

Please try and make a constructive comment for a change

Grass Roots

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want the video of him pulling the players hair?

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What's your constructive argument anyway? I don't see such anger about Germany's Diving freekick that resulted in their 2nd goal

Young Pro

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lol If other countries reacted to your portugese dives like you lot do to 1 dive from the opposition then gold help you.

Grass Roots

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Halo my name is Mateus of Portugal, sry 4 my english not so good Embarassed

I am sory for my team play i am ashamed of my team they should stop this cheating. You know here in Portugal they teach players how to dive Rolling Eyes i am ashamed for ther mistakes.

again i am sorry plese try to forgive them just once

happy day to you all Razz

Grass Roots

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Maybe Every team should be expelled from the world cup....

Grass Roots

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Honestly, all of this "you only won because you cheat" is getting really old really fast.

Let's cut the crap, shall we? Tell me one team that didn't dive. Tell me one team that didn't give it a try to get a free kick when there wasn't a foul. But don't sweat it, because I don't really think there is one team as pure and as well intended as that.

Now, can you blame the players of an opposite for giving it a shot, when your team itself does *precisely* the exact same thing? No, you can't. Or you can, but you're a hypocrate (and if you are, I salute you for admitting to be one on a public message board!).

And all this "but you cheat more" talk...come one! Cheating is cheating, and that's all there is to it! To me, someone who cheats twice on the SO is exactly the same as someone who cheats 10 times. The morality beneath it is exacly the same.

If a player falls because of a draft and the ref happens to consider it a foul, then, it's probably the ref's fault too, right?

Grass Roots

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Obsessivefan wrote:
And you are saying the French didn't dive? Or England never dived for that matter? Just because you are a fan of one team doesn't mean your team doesn't dive either. Realistically all players dive.

Can't believe you missed the French dive even tho you watched the games 11 times? That was a good one as it earnt the team a penalty. You need a different angle?


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true. i was a little [beep!] off, since they done it, but well, they all do it anyway.. the referee should have seen the other penalty some minutes but he didn't.. anyway congratulations to france, especially zidade..

Youth Academy

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No Portugal should not be disqualfied they are a good team and I would like to play them again.

C.Ronaldo on the other hand can f**k off from any tourny I have no time for constant diving.

Grass Roots

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No lock on this thread yet?

Grass Roots

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Mateus wrote:
Halo my name is Mateus of Portugal, sry 4 my english not so good Embarassed

I am sory for my team play i am ashamed of my team they should stop this cheating. You know here in Portugal they teach players how to dive Rolling Eyes i am ashamed for ther mistakes.

again i am sorry plese try to forgive them just once

happy day to you all Razz


You serious you are Portuguese or are you trying to make fun of this? I don't think any Portuguese should be ashamed of the way they played in this match. Diving? Give me a break. Just some lame excuse made by sore losers as Nadeshda said. I never was a Portugal fan until this world cup. My Portugal passport was long expired but I was always on the side cheering for Australia and our mother country England! When I saw the team and how they played their hearts out made me proud to be some how distantly connected to Portugal. I refuse to believe a true Portuguese would say what you've said.

Certain English fans should be the one appologising if they had the guts.

Grass Roots

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Steven2005 wrote:
No Portugal should not be disqualfied they are a good team and I would like to play them again.

C.Ronaldo on the other hand can f**k off from any tourny I have no time for constant diving.


And so should your fowl Rooney!

Young Pro

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Right can we please set this straight our exscuse for an early exit in the World Cup is not because of Ronaldo our Portugese cheating. If you look at the engl;ish newspapers we are not attacking Ronaldo or Portugal whoever sed that then their speakin [beep!] The newspapers are blaming Sven and his lousy tactic and mostly england fans are coz everyone knows that he shouldnt have played Rooney as an alone striker.

Should CHEATING PORTUGAL be EXPELED from any cup ?
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