I ran out in a interresting article in BBC sports:
Joan Laporta has been elected president of Barcelona and will now try to persuade David Beckham to sign for the Catalan club.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/2981028.stm

If Barcelona had signed Beckham, we wouldnt get Ronnie and Eto'o meaning no ligua titles, no CL trophy.
And probably I would be a Man Utd fan, because Ronnie would be there.
Thanks GOD, Real snatched him

Then you are a Barça fan or a Ronaldinho fan ?? Is what happens with most of Japanese people, that they are a fan of a player and then they change their favourite team according to the team where this player plays.

Afrinux, didn't you know that story?

Ronnie was indeed only 2nd choice, at first i was mad we didn't get Becks (especially considering how cheap Madrid got him) but in the end we can consider ourselves very lucky

What has the Eto'o transfer got to do with this mate?

Afrinux, stop drinking Vodka!!

Putrum, believe me I am a true barca fan, now. Yeah, I agree before Ronaldinho came, I wasnt supporting Barcelona.


Did you think that Eto'o would have considered a struggling barcelona? Ronnie changed Barcelona in his first year, and I believe it somehow influenced Eto'o and Deco.


Hahaha Raul, I am not like you. I am always sober.
Besides, what I said is true. Real didnt win anything with Beckham
Real Madrid was the unlucky one, you got beckham and lost Eto'o.

Eto'o has always hated Real Madrid (for how they treated him), he has always looked for a Barca move

Besides it's not like we totally depend on Ronaldinho, he's not our only star. Don't forget we also have Puyol, Xavi, Iniesta, Messi, etc...without Ronnie we would have had some success too. We won the UCL despite Ronaldinho playing badly in most matches

But for example if Ronaldinho signed for Milan then you wouldn't be a Barça fan and would be a Milan fan ?

Afrinux (only), could you place these names in order of how important they have been for Barca? At top the most important 1

Diego Maradona
Carles Rexach
Ronald Koeman
Juan Campo
Johan Cruijff


Not to take you down or anything, just as a little question to see how much you know about Barca Since I don't think the answer of this question can be looked up. If you know the right answer, you've proven to have some knowledge of Barca

And add Joan Gaspart
Afrinux I don't like Vodka anymore Mr. Gaspart drank it brefore signing Rochemback, Christanval, Quaresma and company.

Quaresma was good, just didn't get a real chance and picked up too many injuries

Gaspards biggest mistake was the Overmars+Petit deal, he wasted all Figo cash right away...nutter

i know they did with nakata.

But you can't blame him for that, I understand it.

Several years ago, when Gasol moved to the NBA, I started watching the northamerican basket league, and supported Grizzlies because that's where Gasol played. I mean, I know that there are better players in the NBA, but I love watching Pau Gasol because he's spanish and because he plays the kind of basket I like.

Why does Eto'o hate Real so much anywyas?

They have treated him very badly, have never given him a chance in their first team and loaned him out season after season after season...

Eto'o actually came from their youth system and has proven to be better than any of their current strikers....bad luck for madrid, they should really give their youngsters a chance and not only sign proven players

Sure but maybe he wouldn't be the player he is today if he hadn't of been loaned out. If he got his chance at Real and blew it, this could have done his confidence and ended playing for some rubbish club!!!!

Real Madrid didn't treat him badly, He has always been very arrogant and he thinks he's the best in the world. He's a good striker, but we have always had better strikers and he couldn't play as much as he wanted.

No-one has come close to Eto'o in the last 2 seasons

Not to forget that he defeated you on his own a few times, when he was at Mallorca

Sorry mate.
Ronaldo - 2 golden balls, top scorer with Brazil, and best striker in the world
Raúl - Best spanish player ever. Top Scorer of real madrid, of the spanish national team and the Champions League.

In 2003, when you got Eto'o, he wasn't even a shadow of Ronie or Raul.
Now he's one of the best, and it's a success of Laporta, but if he had flopped it wouldn't have been a surprise.

You're talking about 2003, so those awards aren't relevant


Barca didn't pay +/- 26 million euro for him for nothing '

ps
1. he came to barca in 2004
2. in his last mallorca season he scored 17 goals (SIX more than Raul for a much bigger side) so how can you say he wasn't even a shadow of his?

Oh and when Mallorca sold Eto'o they suddenly finished 6 places lower

I think you'll find you're underestimating Eto'o here

It's not only about scoring, since Raúl is not a centre forward anymore. Since Ronaldo came to Madrid, he has played near the midfield.

Anyway, I was talking about 2003 (or now I correct myself, 2004) because that's when Barcelona signed him. Oh, and Raul also scored in Champions, something Eto'o didn't know until he went to Barcelona.
Oh, Eto'o didn't come in the summer of 2003 with Ronaldinho?? Anyway, your bet succeeded, but Eto'o has a lot to do if he wanna become someday a player like Raul or Ronaldo, and he should start by not spitting at anyone, not calling Real Madrid fans are cabrones if he doesn't wanna be insulted then. Show respect if you want respect.

No i corrected you


So a player isn't good if he's never played in the UCL before? With other words, Torres is a crap player? I wouldn't use that as an argument mate


I didn't say that, you did


He's on the right way

Okay, it seems that you don't wanna understand me or something

I was ASKING if Eto'o came with Ronaldinho in 2003 or not. I think so, but you said he came in 2004. One of us is wrong.

I didn't say a player is better because he plays CL, but you told me Raul only scored 11 goals and I corrected you, because he also scored in the CL, in the Copa del Rey and also with Spain.

Ohh you said "something Eto'o didn't know"...sounded like taking Eto'o down

Didn't sound like a question either :p

Yes Ronnie did came in 2003


Anyway this is going nowhere, lets stop it before we're both going crazy lol

I am not a big fan of Serie A. So, hadRonaldinho signed Milan, I would have sticked with Arsenal.


1. Johan Cruijff( I know, he is the man )
2. Ronald Koeman
3. Diego Maradona( because I dont know nothing about Campo and Rexach and I would put Romario and Stoikov before maradona if they were listed .)


Ronaldinho playing badly in most matches !? Who knocked out Chelsea and AC Milan. I know if it was Giuly who scored but did you remember the ball ronnie fed him?
And when Ronnie arrived, Barca was struggling at the 14th spot, and he took us right to the 2nd place.

Raul, to correct some of your posts, Eto'o came in 2004 ( one year after Ronnie ).
And he was doing a standing job at mallorca, even gave them the spanish cup.
And at this moment I think Eto'o is the best striker in the world or 2nd after Henry.

About Ronnie, of course he's very very important for us

But what did he do against Chelsea? In my opinion Messi was MOTM on stamford Bridge and no-one really in camp nou (we were strong as collective, no-one stood out. In Milan yes he gave that great pass but apart from that he was very well defended by Stam and Gatusso, he didn't do much...once Stam was subbed, he could give that pass.

To me he hasn't played his best football in the UCL (and not in general) he was better in his 1st and 2nd reason



About the players Campo doesn't exist And Rexach mate he has scored a shitload of goals for us and was our manager just a short time ago ... has been better than maradona for us, that's for sure ... if you want to be a true Barca fan, read something about our history

Some names: Venables, Kubala, Gamper, Zubizaretta, Suarez (no not that madridista ) , Romario, Neeskens (Johan 2) and thus Rexach have been interesting / important names in our history

Read some stories about them, will be interesting

And also about our future stars: Dos Santos (2 brothers) and Bojan for instance