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but your sig is ALSO only league games. you lost more games in total in your "immortal season" than united did in their treble winning season FACT. moron


It was six years ago, get over it.

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Chelsea lost 4 games in total all season, which is still less than your previous season.

Chelsea did reach the semi's, and they were knocked out due to a very dodgy descision. Arsenal get to the semi's in recent memory?


With the amount of money Chelsea have, I can't help but get this feeling of 'so what?'.

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the league is open but if Chelsea play like they did last season they will win it again.


Only if we play like we did last season too, which I doubt. We will improve, and I am very confident that we can be better than them.

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plus you battered pillar to post in the final.


And...? Who has the trophy?

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fact is you can't slag Chelsea off they were the best team last year and by far the most consistant.


I'm not denying that, but I can't stand the amount of people overhyping them. On titles won, they're level with SP*RS. 2 titles, one bought for them by their Russian sugardaddy, AND even the Spurs were more entertaining when they won their titles.

Chelsea are nothing. We'll be back in full flow next season to bring the Prem trophy back to Highbury in its last season.

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Rumour issue: Reyes has been offered a new contract.


Meh.

 
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Wel said lads these f**kin Chelsea mugs aint got a clue , Arsenal r way more consistant in the league than Chelsea fact,as for a chip on ur shoulder it is u who have been bigging up Chelsea thinking their summin special,wot have they done? They one the league ok Arsenal ave been doin it for years now and will continue to do so and the LEAGUE CUP HA HA as for europe did Chelsea win it errr no so hush ur lips m8

 
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heard a rumour that Juve want Pires, what do you goons reckon about the prospect of Pires leaving?

i don't like him but he scores shed-loads of goals for a midfielder and i wouldn't sell him personally.

 
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No team is unbeatable, and a season includes alot of luck. If Arsenal started the season and Henry got injured for the whole season, that could wreck thier chances of winning the title - however the advantage Chelsea have is the amount of World Class squad players they have.

The thing Chelsea lack is an out and out striker, and that is possible thier only weakness. If they had an Henry, then I think it could be a one horse race.

There is no doubt about it however, Chelsea, Man U and Arsenal are all great teams, and this season is going to be very exciting. I think all three teams are capable of beating each other. Makes for a great season, especially with Liverpool improving.

 
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Liverpool Are going to Improve with Building there squad wich they was not very consistent in the league last year with injures to key players so as long as they stay fit we will be up there wiv the Aresnals, Man U's Chelsea's

 
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No team is unbeatable, and a season includes alot of luck. If Arsenal started the season and Henry got injured for the whole season, that could wreck thier chances of winning the title - however the advantage Chelsea have is the amount of World Class squad players they have.

The thing Chelsea lack is an out and out striker, and that is possible thier only weakness. If they had an Henry, then I think it could be a one horse race.


A one horse race? That's absolutely ridiculous. I hate this myth that we're a one-man team. We coped very well without Henry at the end of this season, and I believe if we had to for a whole season then we could.

When Wenger took over Wrighty was scoring all our goals. We lost him early in the 97/98 season and we went onto win the double. We also lost Bergkamp towards the end of the season. We have a knack of surprising people. Wenger has a knack of finding talented youngsters as he did with Anelka that season, and I'm sure it would be possible again.

As for Chelsea, for all their world class players we made them look pretty ordinary in both our games against them and but for atrocious set piece defending at Highbury, and poor finishing at the Bridge, we would've beaten them. If we win the head-to-head games next season (which we are more than capable of) then we will probably win the league.

About this Pires rumour - I wouldn't be so upset if it happened. He doesn't have the same impact he used to. His goals last season are misleading. Sure, it's useful, but if we got a reasonable offer I'd be quite happy if we took it. I doubt it'll happen though. We'll see.

 
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As for Chelsea, for all their world class players we made them look pretty ordinary in both our games against them and but for atrocious set piece defending at Highbury, and poor finishing at the Bridge, we would've beaten them. If we win the head-to-head games next season (which we are more than capable of) then we will probably win the league.


But you are forgetting United also. They had a very good season up until the final run-in. If they have Van the Mad firing on all cilinders next season, then it will not be as clear cut as you make out.

The point I was making about the one horse race was that almost all teams have a dip in form, maybe due to fatigue, injuries etc, however with a squad of world class players as Chelsea has, they are better equipt to deal with these sorts of things. And if they did have a 20 goal a season striker, there is no denying they will be deadly! They could very well go on to rule Europe.

I have not slagged Arsenal off at all, but you would have to admit that without Henry for the season, Arsenal's chances will be severly dented!

 
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i think o`dogg has hit it right on the nail about Chelski . With money no problem they can outprice any other club for players and if the player wants £80,000 a week no problem . This of course does mean that they can have a big squad of world class players and when injuries occur there will be a good player coming in so it will not affect the team play too much . The problem with Arsenal last season was
two words ***Man Utd*** . We never got over that defeat at Old Trafford and that is the reason we never got close to Chelski , after that match we had one win in five matches and that was a fortunate 5-4 win against Spurs . So that was 8 pts dropped which may have made a big difference in the tables. If you look at the statistics though there is one main reason Chelski one the title , goals conceded . If you only concede 15 goals all season plus a 1-0 win 11 times in the league and a record number of clean sheets then chances are you are close to winning something. If Arsenal can get close to those kind of figures then i am sure we will be champions again .

 
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As it stands, any one of the 3 teams can win it in my oppinion. Chelsea were not only great in defence, but poor in attack and sometimes 1-0 wins are fortunate. The defence was not unbeatable as you only have to look at Europe for that. Conceded 5 against Bayern last season over the 2 legs, and 4 against Barcelona over 2 legs. That in itself is 9 goals in 4 games. When you think in the league they only conceded 15 all season, 9 is hell of alot in 4 games. However the quality of opponent is much greater than that of the premiership.

I think United and Arsenal have a great chance of beating Chelsea in the head to head matches this season, however I do think Chelsea will be more consistant against the rest of their opponents. Man U lost stupid points last season, getting beaten by teams they really need to be beating if they are hoping to win the title, and Arsenal I think just dont have the strength in depth to go a full season without a blip.

This is a prediction, and as you all know, football is full of suprises and anything can happen - so please don't all jump on the bandwagon and flame me as it is my personal oppinion.

 
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As for Chelsea, for all their world class players we made them look pretty ordinary in both our games against them and but for atrocious set piece defending at Highbury, and poor finishing at the Bridge, we would've beaten them. If we win the head-to-head games next season (which we are more than capable of) then we will probably win the league.


The point I was making about the one horse race was that almost all teams have a dip in form, maybe due to fatigue, injuries etc, however with a squad of world class players as Chelsea has, they are better equipt to deal with these sorts of things. And if they did have a 20 goal a season striker, there is no denying they will be deadly! They could very well go on to rule Europe.


Actually I'm going to have to disagree again. Last season whenever Chelsea rotated a lot of players, they got all their bad results. Drawing 0-0 at home to PSG, losing away to Porto, losing to Newcastle in the cup. For all the players he has, Mourinho really doesn't do that much rotating. He's not like Ranieri. Sure, maybe he will fix this problem, but from what I've seen so far, their squad outside the starting eleven is not as great as it looks.

 
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i dont think Chel$ki will dominate football over the next few years , having a very bid squad full of world class players may seem great at first but you can only have 11 in your starting line up. That means you will have a lot of players unhappy because they are not playing first team football , it remains to be seen whether Mourinho can keep all his players happy but unless they win all four trophies next season i can see a few leaving . With Arsenal getting increased revenue when they move to the Emirates Stadium they can keep up with Chel$ki to a certain extent and hopefully win more titles.

 
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Totally agree Arsenal 4 the league and cup double this coming season!!!!!!!!!!

 
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Even apart from the bad time in the autumn, if Arsenal hadn't squandered points to teams in the bottom 4, we'd have gone into that last meaningless game at Birmingham with 91 points - more than the total in our unbeaten season.
OK, heads dropped after Old Traff, but next season starts with no unbeaten run to keep up, no record to lose, and if we don't throw points at Wigan, West Brom etc, Chelski and Man U know they're both going to have to both do the double over us to stand a chance. I don't think Utd will do that again, and when did Chelski last even beat us in the Prem?

 
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Chelsea r only good coz they av the loot. Arsenal may not av the loot but look where dey r. if Chelsea didnt av all thier money, they would still b battling away with the likes of villa and middlebrough to get a european place

 
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Chelsea r only good coz they av the loot. Arsenal may not av the loot but look where dey r. if Chelsea didnt av all thier money, they would still b battling away with the likes of villa and middlebrough to get a european place


exactly , they may have a good manager but how many players would they have been able to sign if they had to make do with the same funds as Arsenal or Man Utd . Would they have been able to afford to pay £50 , 60 ,80 , 100 k a week in wages to their star players, of course not . Would they have won the title without the money ...not sure , but it definately gave Chelsea the edge.

 
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heard that baptista is on his way 12m

 
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Do you think Hleb was a good decision?

 
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AFC official website has a report from a German journo who's watched him for 5 years and highly rates Hleb.

 
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Yes, the AFC official site can not say that Hleb was a bad decision... I ment does anyone who knows the bundesliga has any info.

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