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forgot to say but can you imagine our defence in years to come if we got kompany rb sagna cb kompany and nordtveit and on the left clichy what a back four i must say

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Rumor has it that Ben Arfa has already signed a contract with Arsenal after Arsenal have agreed a £15 million deal with Lyon. This actually goes to fuel the speculation that Lyon are on the verge of agreeing a deal with Samir Nasri.

And a couple quotes from Wenger concerning transfers.

'I know what I want and I am very confident,' he said.

'I hope to turn that around in the next two or three weeks. They (fans) should be re-assured by what they see.'

'It would be better to buy someone who has played in England because they are less risky, but it costs more money if they are from the Premier League,' Wenger said.

'Maybe I will try to do both.'


This goes to strengthen the possibility of him signing Kranjcar and Johnson.

As for the Adebayor issue about him asking £80k a week ... he's come out and stated that it's complete rubbish.

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Good buy, hes a good player who should fit in well with the rest of the team.

Wengers also had a blast at AC Milan today, anything that slates italian teams is worth a read Very Happy

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Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger has launched a scathing attack on AC Milan after the Italian club's capture of Mathieu Flamini this week.

Wenger told The Sun: "What is a big club? Is it only down to trophies? This club here has a history of being built by people of values.

"I'm not sure that in the history of Milan you'll find the same values this club has.

"And, for me, that is a big club, a club that comes out of people's desire to respect values. Look at our whole history, it's clean."

Allegations of corruption have dogged Milan owner and Italy's Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi throughout his time in office.

And the Arsenal boss says Berlusconi's successor will inherit a stained history.

He added: "It is vital a club maintains those values we have.

"That is why at the head of the club you have a responsibility to keep these values and to make sure people who come after you can be proud.

"They may say this manager didn't win enough trophies but the club has kept its reputation for the whole history. That is vital."

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I think it's a bit much. I don't think i would splash that much on him. Seems a bit risky, especially from what i've seen of him.

I'd rather sign Kranjar. But i don't know how much money Arsene has to spend, so i don't really know what i'd do.

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Good buy, hes a good player who should fit in well with the rest of the team.

Wengers also had a blast at AC Milan today, anything that slates italian teams is worth a read Very Happy

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Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger has launched a scathing attack on AC Milan after the Italian club's capture of Mathieu Flamini this week.

Wenger told The Sun: "What is a big club? Is it only down to trophies? This club here has a history of being built by people of values.

"I'm not sure that in the history of Milan you'll find the same values this club has.

"And, for me, that is a big club, a club that comes out of people's desire to respect values. Look at our whole history, it's clean."

Allegations of corruption have dogged Milan owner and Italy's Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi throughout his time in office.

And the Arsenal boss says Berlusconi's successor will inherit a stained history.

He added: "It is vital a club maintains those values we have.

"That is why at the head of the club you have a responsibility to keep these values and to make sure people who come after you can be proud.

"They may say this manager didn't win enough trophies but the club has kept its reputation for the whole history. That is vital."


Hypocritical asswipe, what exactly did he do with Sol Campbell? hmmm

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Something i heard that might interest Arsenal fans:

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Arsenal are seriously worried about the property market effecting their cashflow in the next few years. A large part of the loans they borrowed for the Emirates are secured against sales of Highbury Sqaure (the development of Highbury). With property prices falling, they are worried they will not be able to sell as quickly as they need to. These fears are already limiting their cashflow now

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Something i heard that might interest Arsenal fans:

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Arsenal are seriously worried about the property market effecting their cashflow in the next few years. A large part of the loans they borrowed for the Emirates are secured against sales of Highbury Sqaure (the development of Highbury). With property prices falling, they are worried they will not be able to sell as quickly as they need to. These fears are already limiting their cashflow now


Ummm, over 90% of the apartments have been sold.

Emirates was built for £430m. The loan that Arsenal took was for only £260m. They then replaced that bank loan with bonds. £210m worth of 13.5 year bonds and £50m of 7.1 year bonds. Beyond the revenue that's going to be generated by the housing at Highbury Square; the remainder of the Lough Road site is also being used for new housing, as are the surplus areas around the stadium at Ashburton Grove which will also bring in revenue to pay off this debt. (the latter possibly being an issue with the housing bust, but definitely not Highbury Square as 90% of it has been sold) Arsenal are also receiving £100m from Emirates for naming rights (over the course of the deal).

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Not sure if anyones already posted it but rumours have it that Wenger is keen to bring in Kolo's brother Yaya from Barcelona for 15 million.

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Rumor has it that Dunne of Manchester City might be on his way to Arsenal. He has spoken of his desire to leave the club should Eriksson be sacked this summer. And with Ericksson's sacking being likely, he should be on the move. Apparently he could be sold for as little as £1m (which I think is way low for Dunne, but that's what the rumors are saying).

There are also reports that Wenger is setting up a bid for Stuttgart striker Mario Gomez.

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£10m rated AC Milan midfielder Gennaro Gattuso could be a target for Arsenal, with the Italian international considering a move to the Premier League as a potential new challenge
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Barcelona are planning a mammoth bid for Arsenal’s Spanish midfielder Cesc Fabregas. The Catalan club may offer Samuel Eto’o, Deco, Eidur Gudjohnsen or former Gunner Thierry Henry in a part-exchange deal.

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Arsenal are chasing £15m rated Olympique Marseille attacking midfielder Samir Nasri who’s contract talks at hte French club have stalled (The Daily Star)

Samir Nasri is a hugely talented Frenchman, a 20 year old with an already impressive collection of matches under his belt. He plays the Arsene way, in much the same way as often mentioned fellow countrymen Ben Arfa and Benzema, and has been one of the main reasons that Marseille are back to being the force they once were. The French international has already seemingly made it clear he wants a move away and surely he will treat the Gunners with more respect than the last man they picked up from the South of France club! Do Arsenal fans rate Nasri? Or are there more than enough young talents in the squad?

so do you want nasri or do you have other targets in mind?

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Who was the last man they signed from Marseille?


I don't think Nasri is the type of player Arsenal need. He's better in the middle, and therefore would be wasted out on the wing at Arsenal.

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Flamini came from Marseille.

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Wasnt Sagna from Marseillie too?

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Wasnt Sagna from Marseillie too?


No, he came from Auxerre.

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Rumor has it that Ben Arfa has already signed a contract with Arsenal after Arsenal have agreed a £15 million deal with Lyon. This actually goes to fuel the speculation that Lyon are on the verge of agreeing a deal with Samir Nasri.

And a couple quotes from Wenger concerning transfers.

'I know what I want and I am very confident,' he said.

'I hope to turn that around in the next two or three weeks. They (fans) should be re-assured by what they see.'

'It would be better to buy someone who has played in England because they are less risky, but it costs more money if they are from the Premier League,' Wenger said.

'Maybe I will try to do both.'


This goes to strengthen the possibility of him signing Kranjcar and Johnson.

As for the Adebayor issue about him asking £80k a week ... he's come out and stated that it's complete rubbish.


I don't think adebayor would do that.African players are not as greedy as other players ,they have abetter understanding and grasp of where they come from and family.

Krancjar or Ben Arfa are not Arsenal calibre players as far as i have seen.There were times when Krancjar showed some signs of running at the defense this season and looked good doing so ,but not consistently.His passing is not good at all from my recollection.
Ben Arfa ,like i stated before is a selfish little pr*ck,and his behaviour at being benched behind a player that is obviously head and shoulders above his own ability (Benzema) was incredibly childish.Maybe Arsena needs to look at that situation before signing that clown.

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YoBBo wrote:
Not sure if anyones already posted it but rumours have it that Wenger is keen to bring in Kolo's brother Yaya from Barcelona for 15 million.


I was gutted and shocked that he didn't sign him before Barca got to him ,i thought it was a natural progression.That being said Wenger needs to look at Diarra of Real madrid instead he's better.

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Big Jono wrote:
shaggy wrote:
Good buy, hes a good player who should fit in well with the rest of the team.

Wengers also had a blast at AC Milan today, anything that slates italian teams is worth a read Very Happy

Quote:
Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger has launched a scathing attack on AC Milan after the Italian club's capture of Mathieu Flamini this week.

Wenger told The Sun: "What is a big club? Is it only down to trophies? This club here has a history of being built by people of values.

"I'm not sure that in the history of Milan you'll find the same values this club has.

"And, for me, that is a big club, a club that comes out of people's desire to respect values. Look at our whole history, it's clean."

Allegations of corruption have dogged Milan owner and Italy's Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi throughout his time in office.

And the Arsenal boss says Berlusconi's successor will inherit a stained history.

He added: "It is vital a club maintains those values we have.

"That is why at the head of the club you have a responsibility to keep these values and to make sure people who come after you can be proud.

"They may say this manager didn't win enough trophies but the club has kept its reputation for the whole history. That is vital."


Hypocritical asswipe, what exactly did he do with Sol Campbell? hmmm


he is unbelievable.

perhaps he should learn the history of his club.

its very foundation began on dodgy ground. heck the reason his club is now in north london is a constant reminder of their shady dealings.

Gorgeous George Graham continued this trend with his collection of bungs.

add to this the underhand poaching and exploitation of poor belgian clubs and legal loopholes abroad and you have a good old fashioned bout of hypcorisy from the ever dignified Mr Wenger

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papa5murf wrote:
Rumor has it that Ben Arfa has already signed a contract with Arsenal after Arsenal have agreed a £15 million deal with Lyon. This actually goes to fuel the speculation that Lyon are on the verge of agreeing a deal with Samir Nasri.

And a couple quotes from Wenger concerning transfers.

'I know what I want and I am very confident,' he said.

'I hope to turn that around in the next two or three weeks. They (fans) should be re-assured by what they see.'

'It would be better to buy someone who has played in England because they are less risky, but it costs more money if they are from the Premier League,' Wenger said.

'Maybe I will try to do both.'


This goes to strengthen the possibility of him signing Kranjcar and Johnson.

As for the Adebayor issue about him asking £80k a week ... he's come out and stated that it's complete rubbish.


I don't think adebayor would do that.African players are not as greedy as other players ,they have abetter understanding and grasp of where they come from and family.

Krancjar or Ben Arfa are not Arsenal calibre players as far as i have seen.There were times when Krancjar showed some signs of running at the defense this season and looked good doing so ,but not consistently.His passing is not good at all from my recollection.
Ben Arfa ,like i stated before is a selfish little pr*ck,and his behaviour at being benched behind a player that is obviously head and shoulders above his own ability (Benzema) was incredibly childish.Maybe Arsena needs to look at that situation before signing that clown.


Them not being good enough (in your eyes) for Arsenal is not a reason to not sign them. Was Adebayor good enough when we signed him? How about Sagna or Flamini or Hleb or ... the list can go on. Hell was Henry good enough when we signed him?

The fact of the matter is Kranjcar (23) and Ben Arfa (21) have great potential. And who better than the Professor himself to teach them and progress their footballing and possibly make them into stars like he has with so many others.

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specnur wrote:
papa5murf wrote:
Rumor has it that Ben Arfa has already signed a contract with Arsenal after Arsenal have agreed a £15 million deal with Lyon. This actually goes to fuel the speculation that Lyon are on the verge of agreeing a deal with Samir Nasri.

And a couple quotes from Wenger concerning transfers.

'I know what I want and I am very confident,' he said.

'I hope to turn that around in the next two or three weeks. They (fans) should be re-assured by what they see.'

'It would be better to buy someone who has played in England because they are less risky, but it costs more money if they are from the Premier League,' Wenger said.

'Maybe I will try to do both.'


This goes to strengthen the possibility of him signing Kranjcar and Johnson.

As for the Adebayor issue about him asking £80k a week ... he's come out and stated that it's complete rubbish.


I don't think adebayor would do that.African players are not as greedy as other players ,they have abetter understanding and grasp of where they come from and family.

Krancjar or Ben Arfa are not Arsenal calibre players as far as i have seen.There were times when Krancjar showed some signs of running at the defense this season and looked good doing so ,but not consistently.His passing is not good at all from my recollection.
Ben Arfa ,like i stated before is a selfish little pr*ck,and his behaviour at being benched behind a player that is obviously head and shoulders above his own ability (Benzema) was incredibly childish.Maybe Arsena needs to look at that situation before signing that clown.


Them not being good enough (in your eyes) for Arsenal is not a reason to not sign them. Was Adebayor good enough when we signed him? How about Sagna or Flamini or Hleb or ... the list can go on. Hell was Henry good enough when we signed him?

The fact of the matter is Kranjcar (23) and Ben Arfa (21) have great potential. And who better than the Professor himself to teach them and progress their footballing and possibly make them into stars like he has with so many others.


Thierry Henry had just been France's top scorer at the 1998 World Cup which you dont need me to remind you they won. also on Bastille Day 1998, he was awarded France's highest decoration, the Legion d'Honneur. it really winds me up how people make out wenger 'unearthed' Henry like he was some kind of nobody until wenger nurtured him.

Prior to signing for Arsenal Sagna had just been voted France's best right-sided defender in the 2006–07 season, Auxerre's player of the season and in the Ligue 1 team of the year. again, hardly a 'hidden gem'.

Flamini had one good season out of four.

Hleb still has a lot to prove, particularly in the staying fit and keeping consistent stakes

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Steely Hill wrote:
papa5murf wrote:
specnur wrote:
papa5murf wrote:
Rumor has it that Ben Arfa has already signed a contract with Arsenal after Arsenal have agreed a £15 million deal with Lyon. This actually goes to fuel the speculation that Lyon are on the verge of agreeing a deal with Samir Nasri.

And a couple quotes from Wenger concerning transfers.

'I know what I want and I am very confident,' he said.

'I hope to turn that around in the next two or three weeks. They (fans) should be re-assured by what they see.'

'It would be better to buy someone who has played in England because they are less risky, but it costs more money if they are from the Premier League,' Wenger said.

'Maybe I will try to do both.'


This goes to strengthen the possibility of him signing Kranjcar and Johnson.

As for the Adebayor issue about him asking £80k a week ... he's come out and stated that it's complete rubbish.


I don't think adebayor would do that.African players are not as greedy as other players ,they have abetter understanding and grasp of where they come from and family.

Krancjar or Ben Arfa are not Arsenal calibre players as far as i have seen.There were times when Krancjar showed some signs of running at the defense this season and looked good doing so ,but not consistently.His passing is not good at all from my recollection.
Ben Arfa ,like i stated before is a selfish little pr*ck,and his behaviour at being benched behind a player that is obviously head and shoulders above his own ability (Benzema) was incredibly childish.Maybe Arsena needs to look at that situation before signing that clown.


Them not being good enough (in your eyes) for Arsenal is not a reason to not sign them. Was Adebayor good enough when we signed him? How about Sagna or Flamini or Hleb or ... the list can go on. Hell was Henry good enough when we signed him?

The fact of the matter is Kranjcar (23) and Ben Arfa (21) have great potential. And who better than the Professor himself to teach them and progress their footballing and possibly make them into stars like he has with so many others.


Thierry Henry had just been France's top scorer at the 1998 World Cup which you dont need me to remind you they won. also on Bastille Day 1998, he was awarded France's highest decoration, the Legion d'Honneur. it really winds me up how people make out wenger 'unearthed' Henry like he was some kind of nobody until wenger nurtured him.

Prior to signing for Arsenal Sagna had just been voted France's best right-sided defender in the 2006–07 season, Auxerre's player of the season and in the Ligue 1 team of the year. again, hardly a 'hidden gem'.

Flamini had one good season out of four.

Hleb still has a lot to prove, particularly in the staying fit and keeping consistent stakes


Yes, they were all good players. But I'm just trying to make my point to 'specnur', that just because they at the current time don't seem to be 'good enough' for Arsenal, doesn't mean that they can't become great. Henry was a great player before coming, but he became a legend and a superstar while wearing an Ar