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  • Peter_rggu
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oh, man, I'm reading your posts and realize that I know nothing about football...
Laughing Laughing you're damn funny

 
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Nzobia from Newctasle has been lined-up to be Clichy's back up should Armand Traoré go on loan./

 
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N'Zogbia?? ehmrrr. Hope Arsen knows what he's doing. Confused

 
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He think he would be a good cover for the 5 games Clichy does not play in a season Wink

 
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its hardly a rumour.. but theo walcott has been moved number from 32 to 14,
but the rumour is Wenger is gona start playin him as a striker like henry..
but i doubt theo is a out and out striker

 
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And as usual you are showing how little you know about football. The one player who isn't replacible for Arsenal in Fabregas. Their success hinges almost entirely on him performing next season. When he doesn't play well Arsenal don't play well, almost everything goes through him and he is the one true world class player in that team.

Hleb can leave, Adebayor can leave, they don't matter so much. There are plenty players around Europe who can play their roles and even some in the Arsenal squad but Fabregas is special.


What complete garbage ,Cesc was non existent in the second half of the season and everyone saw it. Hleb and Flamini were consistent throughout the season ,that's why teams were looking at those two before any other Arsenal player once the season ended. And don't even come up with the excuse that cesc just signed a long term contract ,as from what we have all witnessed over the entire summer is that a contract means nothing more than the paper it's written on. I'm not hating on Cesc because he's a talented young player ,but to say he's more important than Hleb is garbage once you look at the reality of both players consistency ,especially against the better teams.

 
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It just gets better Laughing

What happened when Cesc's form dipped? (he was not non existent) The team's form dipped. This is because he is the heartbeat of the team. He is the most important player by a mile! Hleb doesn't even come close. You keep talking about how well Hleb played against Man United but that is all you can say. Cesc made 17 goals last season. THE THIRD HIGHEST IN THE LEAGUES HISTORY!!! and you think Hleb is more important. Oh my god!

 
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Nzobia from Newctasle has been lined-up to be Clichy's back up should Armand Traoré go on loan./


If that is true that Arsenal are after him, that's good news as he's a decent young player.Clichy's back up would cause a problem though. 1. because Clichy is about as reliable as any player in the world toady concerning injuries and form.
2. because ,i can't remember seeing n'zogbia playing at left back that much ,i definitely don't se him in a defensive role. I think if he get's signed then he will be moved up the wing in front of Clichy.

As for Walcott playing in Henry's Role.
This is my prediction.
Walcott will start more games at the start of the season due to public demand ,and to be honest i think he as earned at least a shot at that.But around about the 4th or 5th week Arsene and the fans will become frustrated with Walcott's lack of production and effectivity ,and he will be back on the bench and again used in the impact role. If Walcott's effectivity is still lacking ,which one could see due to loss of confidence ,i see him being put on loan about mid way through the season if they are not suffering too many injuries.

Personally ,i don't think he's ready for a full game ,and being effective throughout. Like i said last season he does very well when he's brought on around the 70th minute any more paying time than that ,he's seems to loose that sense of urgency to perform right away.With 20 minutes left in the game i watched him just go all out all over the field trying to make things happen before the whistle.

 
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fakeplastictrees wrote:
And as usual you are showing how little you know about football. The one player who isn't replacible for Arsenal in Fabregas. Their success hinges almost entirely on him performing next season. When he doesn't play well Arsenal don't play well, almost everything goes through him and he is the one true world class player in that team.

Hleb can leave, Adebayor can leave, they don't matter so much. There are plenty players around Europe who can play their roles and even some in the Arsenal squad but Fabregas is special.


What complete garbage ,Cesc was non existent in the second half of the season and everyone saw it. Hleb and Flamini were consistent throughout the season ,that's why teams were looking at those two before any other Arsenal player once the season ended. And don't even come up with the excuse that cesc just signed a long term contract ,as from what we have all witnessed over the entire summer is that a contract means nothing more than the paper it's written on. I'm not hating on Cesc because he's a talented young player ,but to say he's more important than Hleb is garbage once you look at the reality of both players consistency ,especially against the better teams.


How can you not see the obvious?

Cesc was blistering first half of the season Arsenal were the best in the league.

Cesc's form dropped in the second half and Arsenal's form dropped.

But that's just a huge coincidence and those 24 assists and 13 goals mean nothing right? Cause he's dwarfed Hleb's colossal contribution of 5 goals and 8 assists.

 
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Cesc was "non-existent".

Laughing

That's made my day.

 
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Cesc was "non-existent".

Laughing

That's made my day.


use the entire sentence when quoting .

obviously you lot have comprehension problems , that' all that needs to be said about this post.
Other than your just a coward riding on the coat tales of other posters ,with nothing of substance to add yourself.

 
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It just gets better Laughing

What happened when Cesc's form dipped? (he was not non existent) The team's form dipped. This is because he is the heartbeat of the team. He is the most important player by a mile! Hleb doesn't even come close. You keep talking about how well Hleb played against Man United but that is all you can say. Cesc made 17 goals last season. THE THIRD HIGHEST IN THE LEAGUES HISTORY!!! and you think Hleb is more important. Oh my god!


I use Man U as an exampe because the y not only won the league ,but they won the Champions League.If that team isn't a good barometer to judge someones play i don't know what is.But it was just an example ,the best ,but not the only one concerning Hleb.

Now you go on about Arsenals form dipping when cesc 's did in the second half of the season.But what you fail to realize is that was also, coincidentally the time when Arsenal lost a lot of players due to injury.
Cesc's form dropped off at the start of the second half of the season ,but you readily state how great he is.He had no injury from what i gather ,but he went from probably one of the best players in the league at that point to at times a ghost of a player.In some games i didn't even know he was playing until about the 30th minute of the match.

you still equate goal tally to greatness ,which means you must be a ronaldo groupie.And that childlike intellect blinds you to the fact that someone had to start that whole play . Someone had to have the vision to slot the pass that assisted the goal. Someone had to break up the play i the first place and start the counter. That same someone had to also maintain the ball against the best teams long enough for his teammate to make the right run and when he didn't take it upon himself to dribble into the box and win a penalty on more than one occasion. ON the majority of occassions that player was Aliaksandr Hleb make no mistake about it.
If Arsenal weren't robbed of the penalty that hleb should have got in the Champions League , everyone of you would have called him a hero.

 
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Laughing Laughing Laughing

Do you even listen to what goes on in your little mind?

 
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2. because ,i can't remember seeing n'zogbia playing at left back that much ,i definitely don't se him in a defensive role. I think if he get's signed then he will be moved up the wing in front of Clichy.


You have said time and time again that you watch Newcastle united but that was all crap wasn't it? If you did watch Newcastle united you would know that N'Zogbia filled in at left back quite a few times. He was even keeping our 5million new signing out of the team. I thought you watched all Newcastle games, i now understand why you think Martins is good enough for Arsenal. It is because you hardly watch him play. If you did, you would have seen N'Zogbia play at left back.

 
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specnur wrote:
J-Axe wrote:
Cesc was "non-existent".

Laughing

That's made my day.


use the entire sentence when quoting .

obviously you lot have comprehension problems , that' all that needs to be said about this post.
Other than your just a coward riding on the coat tales of other posters ,with nothing of substance to add yourself.


How touchy are you? Somebody urinate in your cornflakes this morning?

 
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Barca close on Hleb signing
Arsenal midfielder travelling to Spain to undergo medical

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11670_3797566,00.html

Quicker it happens the better i must say then we can get the money for him and Wenger then can do his magic to get Nasri signed

 
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Barca close on Hleb signing
Arsenal midfielder travelling to Spain to undergo medical

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11670_3797566,00.html

Quicker it happens the better i must say then we can get the money for him and Wenger then can do his magic to get Nasri signed


if you think Nasri will replace Hleb then you are in for a rude awakening. He doesn't tackle and break up plays and he can't maintain the ball under extreme pressure.

name a player who can do that plus thread passes through and dribble like Hleb and shop that player to Wenger.I won't hold my breath ,because that player doesn't exist . So wanting a player to leave a club that you know you can't replace sounds extremely immature to me.

 
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Having a player that does not want to be at the club is not immature if he is not committed to the club then personally i don't really want him there and he may not be replaceable but wenger will find away to get around it but personally i feel hleb slow down our game when he did dribble through the play and when he never shot it annoyed me when i was over there week in week out.

 
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I'll finally put in my opinion (which is probably not worth much Wink)...... Hleb is a very good player, and we are/were more dangerous going forward with him playing.... He is an exceptional dribbler, able to weave in an out with pace with the ball at his feet...... He does not/did not shoot enough when he had the opportunity (and he did have them because he created them with his dribbling ability).... Can we afford him to leave the club? Yes, he is not the 'straw that stirs the drink' when it comes to the Gunners.... Wenger has a knack for replacing players and I believe he'll do so if (and when) Hleb decides to leave.

Personally, I wish him good luck and success if he leaves. Bottom line is, Hleb or any other player are NOT bigger then the team itself...........

Just my own opinion......................



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Having a player that does not want to be at the club is not immature if he is not committed to the club then personally i don't really want him there and he may not be replaceable but wenger will find away to get around it but personally i feel hleb slow down our game when he did dribble through the play and when he never shot it annoyed me when i was over there week in week out.


Ok if you put it like that it makes more sense ,but you should him not wanting to be at the club was your reasoning in the first place.
I agree with you at times that he did slow it down at the wrong times but very rarely and i also caught myself shouting shoot at the tv when he had the ball near the box. BUt what he brought to Arsenal was sublime. I just read some of the comments on goal.com surrounding this transfer and a Man U fan said it best. Hleb controlled Man U ,something Messi was unable to do with his dribbling and play.The fact that he is seen as a replacement for the best player in the world Ronaldinho should quell all the ridiculous posts here but we are dealing with kids .
It looks like it's a done deal if he's flying over for a medical ,and i know it will make many of you happy to hear me say........i am gutted.

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