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Who'll grab 4th spot
Everton
35%
 35%  [ 19 ]
Aston Villa
1%
 1%  [ 1 ]
Man City
3%
 3%  [ 2 ]
Blackburn
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Portsmouth
1%
 1%  [ 1 ]
l,pool
57%
 57%  [ 31 ]
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Laughing

Ownage!

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MontyMagpie wrote:
Johaldo8 wrote:
Fair enough...still no title challenge though, and that's the bottom line! Wink


^^What he says^^ Sticky T


There were many contributing factors off the field though. Had it no of been for all the Hicks and Klinsmann sh*t midway through the season then i'm sure we would be much closer to Chelsea. It's actually surprising that we aren't THAT far away from the top 3 despite everything that has gone on.

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Bluenose wrote:
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i doubt it, Everton's form will fade out whereas Liverpool's form will go from strength to strength i feel.


is the right answer.

incidentally, Monty is awfully quiet.

probably on a 'Save the House Fly March'


We've lost a single game! You'll find Man Utd and Arsenal have done this too... lets see how we get on in our next few games then maybe you can claim your prize. Smile


fair enough, apart from your next game (an obvious 3 points for you) lets see how you get on. i stand by my prediction

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I think Cahills injury will have a massive impact on this mini-race for fourth!

http://www.football.co.uk/Everton/foot_injury_ends_cahill_season_262392.shtml

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Everton's bid to seal a fourth-placed finish in the Premier League has been hit by the news that midfielder Tim Cahill will miss the rest of the season with a foot injury.

The 28-year-old Australia international missed the opening weeks of the campaign due to a similar problem and suffered a recurrence early on in last weekend's 1-1 draw with West Ham United.

Toffees boss David Moyes told the club's official website: "Tim Cahill has a broken foot. I think it is obvious that he will be out for the rest of the season."

Cahill has scored ten goals this season in 28 appearances, helping the Blues challenge city rivals Liverpool for fourth place and the final Champions League qualification spot.

Meanwhile, Lyon midfielder Kim Kallstrom has welcomed rumours linking him with a move to Merseyside for next season.

He commented: "At the moment I'm concentrating on playing in France. Lyon is a great club and I hope I stay there for a long time.

"It's the first time I've heard anything about it (Everton's interest), so I don't know actually. But, why not? It's a great club that plays at the top of the Premier League. You never know, we'll see in the summer after the Euros."

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It will indeed, but we've coped without him before and I'm sure we can do it again... Our squad is getting smaller by the minute though Sad

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Bluenose wrote:
It will indeed, but we've coped without him before and I'm sure we can do it again... Our squad is getting smaller by the minute though Sad


If there are no other injuries, we can still put out a strong midfield line-up with Carsley, Pienaar, Osman, Arteta, Neville and Graveson to choose from....

Am confident that we can still cope and get a result at Anfield without Cahill. But do hope AJ is fit tho...... Got a feeling that he will score if he plays!!!!

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I still think Everton will snatch 4th spot.

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no you dont.

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Benraul wrote:
no you dont.


What the hell ben. So know your a mind reader.

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YoBBo wrote:
Benraul wrote:
no you dont.


What the hell ben. So know your a mind reader.


in this instance yes, he is just saying it to get a reaction. Even though he will not get what he hopes, he will just end up looking foolish when they might end up in 6th position.

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Benraul wrote:
YoBBo wrote:
Benraul wrote:
no you dont.


What the hell ben. So know your a mind reader.


in this instance yes, he is just saying it to get a reaction. Even though he will not get what he hopes, he will just end up looking foolish when they might end up in 6th position.


I think he is aswell. I could of understood it if Everton had gotten a draw at Liverpool but they are quite a way off now and have some tough games coming i think 4th spot is Liverpools now.

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YoBBo wrote:
Benraul wrote:
no you dont.


What the hell ben. So now you're a mind reader.


I know, he's as bad as the Ben91. He still thinks Liverpool can win the league. Laughing

6 games = 18 points. That is a lot of points to gain or throw away. It is not over yet. Next he'll be saying Newcatle can't catch Spurs.

League Fixtures Liverpool
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Saturday, 05 April 2008
Barclays Premier League
Arsenal v Liverpool, 12:45

2 v 1
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Sunday, 13 April 2008
Barclays Premier League
Liverpool v Blackburn, 13:30

1v1
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Saturday, 19 April 2008
Barclays Premier League
Fulham v Liverpool, 15:00

0v2
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Saturday, 26 April 2008
Barclays Premier League
Birmingham v Liverpool, 15:00
1v1
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Saturday, 03 May 2008
Barclays Premier League
Liverpool v Man City, 15:00

1 v 0
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Sunday, 11 May 2008
Barclays Premier League
Tottenham v Liverpool, 15:00

1 v 1
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Fixtures Everton

Sunday, 06 April 2008
Barclays Premier League
Everton v Derby, 15:00
2v0
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Saturday, 12 April 2008
Barclays Premier League
Birmingham v Everton, 15:00
1v2
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Thursday, 17 April 2008
Barclays Premier League
Everton v Chelsea, 20:00
1v0
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Sunday, 27 April 2008
Barclays Premier League
Everton v Aston Villa, 16:00
1v0
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Saturday, 03 May 2008
Barclays Premier League
Arsenal v Everton, 15:00
0v1
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Sunday, 11 May 2008
Barclays Premier League
Everton v Newcastle, 15:00
1v2

I've been as unbiased as I can. Can someone work out the positions I've got a bit lost.

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I think 4th spot is Pool's to lose. We are still in it but its looking very very tough. The next 3 games will define whether we are still in with a shout for 4th or settling for 5th.

We must get at least 7 points from the next 3 games to have any chance at all:

Derby (h) - MUST win
Birm (a) - Must win
Chelsea (h) - Must not lose

Its not worth thinking of the remaining games if we can't get the points from the above indicated ones.

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MontyMagpie wrote:
YoBBo wrote:
Benraul wrote:
no you dont.


What the hell ben. So now you're a mind reader.


I know, he's as bad as the Ben91. He still thinks Liverpool can win the league. Laughing

6 games = 18 points. That is a lot of points to gain or throw away. It is not over yet. Next he'll be saying Newcatle can't catch Spurs.

League Fixtures Liverpool
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Saturday, 05 April 2008
Barclays Premier League
Arsenal v Liverpool, 12:45

2 v 1
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Sunday, 13 April 2008
Barclays Premier League
Liverpool v Blackburn, 13:30

1v1
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Saturday, 19 April 2008
Barclays Premier League
Fulham v Liverpool, 15:00

0v2
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Saturday, 26 April 2008
Barclays Premier League
Birmingham v Liverpool, 15:00
1v1
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Saturday, 03 May 2008
Barclays Premier League
Liverpool v Man City, 15:00

1 v 0
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Sunday, 11 May 2008
Barclays Premier League
Tottenham v Liverpool, 15:00

1 v 1
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Fixtures Everton

Sunday, 06 April 2008
Barclays Premier League
Everton v Derby, 15:00
2v0
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Saturday, 12 April 2008
Barclays Premier League
Birmingham v Everton, 15:00
1v2
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Thursday, 17 April 2008
Barclays Premier League
Everton v Chelsea, 20:00
1v0
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Sunday, 27 April 2008
Barclays Premier League
Everton v Aston Villa, 16:00
1v0
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Saturday, 03 May 2008
Barclays Premier League
Arsenal v Everton, 15:00
0v1
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Sunday, 11 May 2008
Barclays Premier League
Everton v Newcastle, 15:00
1v2

I've been as unbiased as I can. Can someone work out the positions I've got a bit lost.


Laughing That can't be very much then Monty. You've got us drawing to Blackburn, Birmingham and Spurs with Everton beating each of Arsenal, Chelsea and Villa, despite ourselves being in much better form and Everton's form dipping considerably in recent weeks. You've been a bit kind to them i think...

With those predictions the table would look like this though:

4. Everton / 72 pts / + 26
5. Liverpool / 71 pts / + 34

Which pretty much sums up the task Everton have. We need to produce a few very poor results with them getting some excellent ones, to then only narrowly clinch it anyway. I'm confident fourth place is ours.

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Ben91 wrote:
MontyMagpie wrote:
YoBBo wrote:
Benraul wrote:
no you dont.


What the hell ben. So now you're a mind reader.


I know, he's as bad as the Ben91. He still thinks Liverpool can win the league. Laughing

6 games = 18 points. That is a lot of points to gain or throw away. It is not over yet. Next he'll be saying Newcatle can't catch Spurs.

League Fixtures Liverpool
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Saturday, 05 April 2008
Barclays Premier League
Arsenal v Liverpool, 12:45

2 v 1
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sunday, 13 April 2008
Barclays Premier League
Liverpool v Blackburn, 13:30

1v1
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Saturday, 19 April 2008
Barclays Premier League
Fulham v Liverpool, 15:00

0v2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Saturday, 26 April 2008
Barclays Premier League
Birmingham v Liverpool, 15:00
1v1
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Saturday, 03 May 2008
Barclays Premier League
Liverpool v Man City, 15:00

1 v 0
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Sunday, 11 May 2008
Barclays Premier League
Tottenham v Liverpool, 15:00

1 v 1
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Fixtures Everton

Sunday, 06 April 2008
Barclays Premier League
Everton v Derby, 15:00
2v0
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Saturday, 12 April 2008
Barclays Premier League
Birmingham v Everton, 15:00
1v2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Thursday, 17 April 2008
Barclays Premier League
Everton v Chelsea, 20:00
1v0
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sunday, 27 April 2008
Barclays Premier League
Everton v Aston Villa, 16:00
1v0
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Saturday, 03 May 2008
Barclays Premier League
Arsenal v Everton, 15:00
0v1
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sunday, 11 May 2008
Barclays Premier League
Everton v Newcastle, 15:00
1v2

I've been as unbiased as I can. Can someone work out the positions I've got a bit lost.


Laughing That can't be very much then Monty. You've got us drawing to Blackburn, Birmingham and Spurs with Everton beating each of Arsenal, Chelsea and Villa, despite ourselves being in much better form and Everton's form dipping considerably in recent weeks. You've been a bit kind to them i think...

With those predictions the table would look like this though:

4. Everton / 72 pts / + 26
5. Liverpool / 71 pts / + 34

Which pretty much sums up the task Everton have. We need to produce a few very poor results with them getting some excellent ones, to then only narrowly clinch it anyway. I'm confident fourth place is ours.


Very true, 4th spot is Liverpool's to lose........ There is still a slim possiblity of Everton clinching it. But don't think its gonna happen. Well...... but what do I know, stranger things have happened in football.

The next 3 games will be the decider as I have said.

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I think you needed us to lose to Arsenal really. If we get points there then i can't see us fluffing up too much from now until May. In fact, i'd say if we go through against Arsenal on Tuesday (it remains a BIG "if", still) then fourth will be secured simultaneously... Our confidence will be such that i couldn't see any way of you catching us. If we go out then there's hope, as we'll be demoralised and disheartened at losing our one chance for glory.

Still a long shot either way you look at it. And perhaps another run in the UEFA Cup would serve you better anyway. Your squad is quite thin and gradual progress should be the route to go down - people have this idea that once you get into the Champions League you'll get loads of money and be able to attract much better players, but it takes a sustained period of qualification for it to actual take much effect. You're better building a squad capable of managing the Champions League and Europe, and then enter, rather than risk being "one-season wonders". Not that i think Everton are too far off from being capable.

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Ben91 wrote:
I think you needed us to lose to Arsenal really. If we get points there then i can't see us fluffing up too much from now until May. In fact, i'd say if we go through against Arsenal on Tuesday (it remains a BIG "if", still) then fourth will be secured simultaneously... Our confidence will be such that i couldn't see any way of you catching us. If we go out then there's hope, as we'll be demoralised and disheartened at losing our one chance for glory.

Still a long shot either way you look at it. And perhaps another run in the UEFA Cup would serve you better anyway. Your squad is quite thin and gradual progress should be the route to go down - people have this idea that once you get into the Champions League you'll get loads of money and be able to attract much better players, but it takes a sustained period of qualification for it to actual take much effect. You're better building a squad capable of managing the Champions League and Europe, and then enter, rather than risk being "one-season wonders". Not that i think Everton are too far off from being capable.


Yes I agree very much with you. Surprised to hear such balanced and insightful comments about Everton coming from a pool fan!!!

I personally would prefer us to have another 1 or 2 seasons more of UEFA Cup experience before actually having to qualify for the CL. Look at Sevilla as an example. They had two successful runs in it and did very well in this season's CL making it to the knockout rounds!

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I am sure Liverpool will get it because the team is in much better form (since that upset to Barnsley 8 wins, 2 draws and 1 loss) and are scoring goals. Recently in the league Everton have been struggling to register one let alone multiple goals Smile

Maybe injuries hit Everton but cannot see Everton going to the Emirates and winning, beating Birmingham away let alone scoring 2 goals followed up by a win against a Chelsea team in very good form (can see a draw but the form Chelsea have had since Drogba's return plus the more to play for suggests a Chelsea win) Smile

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I am sure Liverpool will get it because the team is in much better form (since that upset to Barnsley 8 wins, 2 draws and 1 loss) and are scoring goals. Recently in the league Everton have been struggling to register one let alone multiple goals Smile

Maybe injuries hit Everton but cannot see Everton going to the Emirates and winning, beating Birmingham away let alone scoring 2 goals followed up by a win against a Chelsea team in very good form (can see a draw but the form Chelsea have had since Drogba's return plus the more to play for suggests a Chelsea win) Smile


We were the team on form prior to pool's good run. Form can change very quickly and a reverse might happen with pool going back into a slump again while Everton starts another winning streak.

To have the slightest outside chance, we need to discover our form very quickl