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lmao "be affraid" as if. Very Happy

 
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Laughing Sorry, but it's just nice after the stick we got in the Coventry Carling Cup thread.

 
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Benitez MUST go...been saying it for nearly a year.......go away wee man...not good enough for Liverpool

 
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I think he's great.... He's growing on me.

 
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Only 5 minutes before Match of the Day is on. You watching it, Bluey? Hell yeah!!!

 
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I don't think we can blame Rafa, the team he put out should have been out of sight by half time, you can't play Torres when we need him for tuesday,and i bet then he won't last 90 minutes.

The bottem line is we can't seem to kill off a game, no one this year has played us of the park, ok we have had a couple of games when we were second best , but never played off the park, we have had chance after chance in every game this season, but as in every game we need 3000000 attempts to score, and then we can't score...lol

we will loose to Inter over 2 legs (it's written in the stars) it's just a really bad season that's bound to get worse !! .

 
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Y'know, our tag of "cup-team" is becoming a bit disconcerting, with results like this...

Let's be honest, we didn't deserve to go far in this competition. Not because we were outplayed today - 'cause we weren't, we dominated and had the majority of the chances. But because we've been generally shocking throughout the whole of this tournament, slugging our way through past lower league mediocrity. With two games against Luton, a game against Havant & Waterlooville and one versus Barnsley, we should not have claimed two victories, a draw and a defeat. That's terribly poor and warrants our exit.

The annoying thing here was that, whilst we weren't overly convincing, we actually played, created the chances and were in relative control. Against Luton and Havant that wasn't the case. But, as it were - as it always is - we stuttered and were not ruthless, eventually throwing our Quarter-Finals place away.

You can go on all day about rotation and team selection, but it's [beep!]. What was wrong with the team today? We had a 'keeper who was superb against a pretty full-strength Chelsea team in the Carling Cup; yet he concedes two and is made to look like a Tottenham Hotspur 'keeper for the crucial second. We had a solid defence in Finnan, Carra, Hyypia and Riise, one that in past seasons has matched the best attacks in the world; yet we concede two goals and are made to look very fragile at times. We had a midfield full of players who've more than succeeded in the top flights of England, Brazil, Spain and Holland; yet we never controlled the game in any convincing way, nor adequately assisted our attack in the required way. We had a strike-force of players who've played numerously for the English and Dutch national teams; yet we could only score once in 31 attempts, and they were particularly made to look clueless, being largely non-existent.

His selection isn't a problem here - unless he changes the system (i.e. formation), or plays personnel in unusual positions, then there is no issues. Any side we put out, in there natural positions, should be capable of winning. But it's a classic case of lack of confidence. Choosing who to put in or out of our side isn't Benitez's problem, nor is tactics or any of that lark, but motivating our players is.

That's what it all comes down to. Our players are stricken of any confidence, through accumulated bad performances and increasing pressure. Unfortunately, the bleak reality is that not only can Rafa not cope with the pressure himself (to the great extent that it is now), but he can't - and more importantly - relieve the players of that pressure and return some faith to them. It's so badly missing it's painful to watch.

It's painfully obvious that Kuyt and Crouch aren't firing to their proper standard, and haven't been for a long time. What frustrates me about the likes of Kuyt is he sort of hesitates when going to shoot, that's how little confidence he has - so when he does actually swing, it's a half-hearted swing and you know he doesn't believe he's going to score. There's no power, nor any conviction within the shots and it's just painful really. If you don't give Kuyt any space he's buggered - the slightest pressure cripples him. As for Crouch, his lack of movement is ... well. Non-existent shall we say? I actually forget he's playing half the time because he basically finds a few metre radii of grass and stands there for 90 minutes. Not really down to confidence, but in terms of general shitness deserves a mention.

Our midfield though, therein lies a big problem. I don't know whether it's complacency or merely fear, but our players seem inept in doing the things players of their quality should be able to do. Babel for example, he's so unbelievably frustrating... This is a man who's natural position is as a wing-forward, and he won't even take on players and run - despite having incredible pace. He either pulls inside or cuts back and plays it to another player. That's something we see all too often, our lack of ruthlessness - how often do you see our players dithering, passing it around so to give everyone a touch and no-one will [beeping!] shoot, it's ridiculous. No-one has the confidence to be assertive and take the game by the scruff of the neck and do something - they only seem content in gifting it to Gerrard (or Torres) and letting them do it. To be fair, Babel wasn't too bad here, but that's a general comment accurate for his whole season. Benayoun and Alonso weren't bad either, although Lucas looked swamped in a generally [beep!] performance from ourselves. He was just lost. A thing i hate about Yossi is that he won't shoot either, coming back to the above point - he dribbles and dribbles and will do nice little passes but at the edge of the area in space just have a bloody shot and see what happens.

I don't know what to say about our defence. It just panics like mad, as though we're afraid of the opposition. We saw it very early on when they crossed into the box, and Finnan absentmindedly just let it hit his foot into a dangerous area. It's just sloppy and really reflective of how disorganised our defence is of late. And it's because they have no confidence, dwindled from games such as Luton, Havant, Villa etc. and you can feel the pressure getting to them.

I've sort of rushed all that by the way (lack of time). And to be fair to our team, we only didn't win because of a certain possessed goalkeeper.

Though i wonder if Inter were watching. Laughing But don't panic, we are actually close to the craved Premier League title. We only need:

- A new owner
- A new manager
- A new stadium
- A new set of players
- A new set of fans (that sing)

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Laughing Laughing

Only 5 minutes before Match of the Day is on. You watching it, Bluey? Hell yeah!!!



Going to watch it now... Hope I havn't missed it. Sad

 
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Only 5 minutes before Match of the Day is on. You watching it, Bluey? Hell yeah!!!



Going to watch it now... Hope I havn't missed it. Sad


The Liverpool v Barnsley was the first game. So i guess you missed it.

 
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Grrr...

 
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Still think getting a new striker isn't a priority Ben? Still think we can cope without bringing in a proper striker to partner Torres?

 
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Hahahahahahaha, Liverpool arent even a cup team any more.

Oh dear what does that leave for one of the biggest clubs in th world.... Laughing

 
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I knew one of our guys was playing for them! Mad

 
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Rafa's decision to take Babel off was baffling to me,he was the only player a constant threat to Barnsley while the new brazilian was doing nothing whatsoever.The commentator said even some of the 'pool
fans were boing that decision and they themselves (commentators)didn't understand the move.Shocking result and looking at the celebrations made me feel very happy for the Barnsley fans.Only so much can be blamed on Benitez though,one of those Liverpool players probably make up 1/3 rd of the total Barnsley team wages,they should feel ashamed of themselves.
And why caragher turned his back on the game winning shot is not becoming of a player who get's as many accolades as he does.

 
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it's pretty unbelievable.. i know kuyt scored for Liverpool first..

and the last-minute goal's a nice one from barnsley..

i didn't really watch the game though.. i just left the tv on while reading some stuffs about lyon.. lol..

don't really feel like watching Liverpool nowadays.. they've been bad enough this season.. T.T

 

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I can count the number of times on one hand that I have watched Liverpool this season, and most of those have been in the Champions League. Just have no confidence that we will win the "easy" games, is it Rafas fault - maybe, but it is much more the fault of the players, any team Liverpool field should be good enough to win

 

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I can count the number of times on one hand that I have watched Liverpool this season, and most of those have been in the Champions League. Just have no confidence that we will win the "easy" games, is it Rafas fault - maybe, but it is much more the fault of the players, any team Liverpool field should be good enough to win


Shocked

 

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I can count the number of times on one hand that I have watched Liverpool this season, and most of those have been in the Champions League. Just have no confidence that we will win the "easy" games, is it Rafas fault - maybe, but it is much more the fault of the players, any team Liverpool field should be good enough to win


Please don't go around calling yourself a Liverpool fan,it would be an embarrasment to us all

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