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wHO IS THE BEST PLAYER IN THE WORLD?
C.RONALDO
44%
 44%  [ 27 ]
KAKA
22%
 22%  [ 14 ]
RONALDINHO
3%
 3%  [ 2 ]
ROONEY
1%
 1%  [ 1 ]
CANNAVARO
1%
 1%  [ 1 ]
S.GERRARD
13%
 13%  [ 8 ]
J.ALIADIERE
13%
 13%  [ 8 ]
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  • Steely Hill
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Post Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 2:19 pm Reply with quote
specnur wrote:
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specnur wrote:
Sticky T wrote:
But the thing is, Ronaldo has been doing the business in the big games this season. So that excuse is wearing increasingly thin.


really!

Ok let's see.
against the top 4 so far which we can call Arsenal,Chelsea,Liverpool and Everton.,and let's throw man city in there too as it classes as a big game.
Ronaldo has scored 4 goals.
two against Everton and one against 10 man Liverpool.

Now what big games are you talking about.His best performance since he's been in the prem was against Liverpool with 10 men where he got a couple of assists with his goal i think.

You can call that a big time player if you wish ,but i guess we all have our own standards eh!



Well seeing as you seem to be the footballing god, how has Messi & Kaka done in the big games this year? You obviously arn't classing Champions League football as 'big games' either, I wonder who's the top scorer in that


Only someone lacking in intelligence bases a players greatness on the goals scored, Ronaldo is a midfielder and yet in the Champions League he has no assists.You could quite easily give best player in the world credit to a defender or a goalie.But such is the retarded thought process that decides these awards that may never happen again.The total lack of sophistication and the complete submission to sensationalism and hype has controlled a lot of what goes on today.The big games in the Champions League are those that teams have the most to loose in.Maybe Ronaldo's goals came in games that were not knock out stages or the like.What was the level of opposition? etc theres a lot of criteria that goes into it.Some can't be bothered to delve into the facts surrounding these things but i question his greatness.
When i see him him carry a team on his own like Drogba did for much of last season then i will give him Credit.Ronaldo's must be given credit for his goals he's scored ,but you can't ignore the stats i have mentioned above and not second guess his true ability.

As for you mentioning Messi and Kaka.
Messi who i like a great deal is in my eyes a better player than Ronaldo as i think he is more effective in big games ,i don't think i would give Messi the award before Ronaldo this year as Messi has been injured a lot of the time.Kaka has never been classed as great by me,he a good player but as you saw against two games v Arsenal he was nothing,and that just backs me up.Those player you want to call great has to perform against those teams.

Look,i don't respect the a lot of these awards given out as i believe they are bogus ,but given the crtieria already set by the organizations it's obvious Ronaldo will win the prem title and the Fifa title too.
If they would take into account the quality of the team he plays for.How he has performed in the big matches.How his team does without him etc then i would give it a lot more credit,but it is what it is.Bogus and unsophisticated, it's comic book fodder.


Just the fact that Ronaldo would never make it on an Arsenal team should tell you he likes the right qualities to considered great.


somewhat contradictory?

Laughing he wouldnt get in the Arsenal team? do you really think this is true?

who do you think should get the award? if it was your award and your criteria who would win best player in the world in your eyes being as the current awards are bogus...?

 
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Post Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 2:28 pm Reply with quote
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Just the fact that Ronaldo would never make it on an Arsenal team should tell you he likes the right qualities to considered great.


hahahahahaha

Come on, own up. You are a windup merchant, im sure you are someones joke account to take the [beep!] out of Arsenal fans by imitating an absolute clown one.

 
  • Steely Hill
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Post Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 2:32 pm Reply with quote
i think its J-Axe and he uses that account for his true feelings

 
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Post Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 4:14 pm Reply with quote
Specnur - Your manager disagree's with you

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Arsène Wenger believes his team will come up against the best footballer in the world on Sunday.

Manchester United’s Cristiano Ronaldo has been in quite stunning form this season, plundering 37 goals in all competitions. Not bad for a man who is, by trade, a winger. And the Arsenal boss insists that his combination of style and efficiency has got Ronaldo where he is today.

Ominously for the Gunners, the Portuguese international was afforded a rest in United’s Champions League win over Roma on Wednesday.

“He is the best player in the world at the moment, because he has the combination of the two most difficult things in life,” said Wenger. “Style and efficiency.

“I have always loved efficiency and he had that in the goals he has scored. He plays as a winger but he's scored 37 goals. You cannot deny that.”


Also Wenger tried signing Ronaldo before he joined for United.

 
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Post Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 5:38 pm Reply with quote
i personally would much prefer to have Rosicky.

 
Post Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 6:43 pm Reply with quote
What Eboue not good enough for you?

 
  • Geordie JJ
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Post Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 6:51 pm Reply with quote
lmao what is J.ALIADIERE doing here. which loser made this thread

 
Post Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 6:55 pm Reply with quote
I'm going to take a shot in the dark and say it's probably a joke.

 
  • Geordie JJ
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Post Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 7:00 pm Reply with quote
wel it made me laugh, would rather see messi on the list then a joke name

 
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Post Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 9:36 pm Reply with quote
O Dogg wrote:
Specnur - Your manager disagree's with you

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Arsène Wenger believes his team will come up against the best footballer in the world on Sunday.

Manchester United’s Cristiano Ronaldo has been in quite stunning form this season, plundering 37 goals in all competitions. Not bad for a man who is, by trade, a winger. And the Arsenal boss insists that his combination of style and efficiency has got Ronaldo where he is today.

Ominously for the Gunners, the Portuguese international was afforded a rest in United’s Champions League win over Roma on Wednesday.

“He is the best player in the world at the moment, because he has the combination of the two most difficult things in life,” said Wenger. “Style and efficiency.

“I have always loved efficiency and he had that in the goals he has scored. He plays as a winger but he's scored 37 goals. You cannot deny that.”


Also Wenger tried signing Ronaldo before he joined for United.


If that's true i am shocked ,but i would like to see a direct quote of that from wenger.I would have said he was just trying to be polite but ,In that sentence he seems actually impressed with him.Maybe I'm better than Wenger after all.

I am shocked because Wenger has watched his players basically make the boy look ordinary on the majority of occasions.If i'm buying a player ,i'm buying one that has exposed my current players,then i know i got a big timer.I think Mr.Wenger needs a word from me.

 
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Post Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 9:46 pm Reply with quote
specnur wrote:
O Dogg wrote:
Specnur - Your manager disagree's with you

Quote:
Arsène Wenger believes his team will come up against the best footballer in the world on Sunday.

Manchester United’s Cristiano Ronaldo has been in quite stunning form this season, plundering 37 goals in all competitions. Not bad for a man who is, by trade, a winger. And the Arsenal boss insists that his combination of style and efficiency has got Ronaldo where he is today.

Ominously for the Gunners, the Portuguese international was afforded a rest in United’s Champions League win over Roma on Wednesday.

“He is the best player in the world at the moment, because he has the combination of the two most difficult things in life,” said Wenger. “Style and efficiency.

“I have always loved efficiency and he had that in the goals he has scored. He plays as a winger but he's scored 37 goals. You cannot deny that.”


Also Wenger tried signing Ronaldo before he joined for United.


If that's true i am shocked ,but i would like to see a direct quote of that from wenger.I would have said he was just trying to be polite but ,In that sentence he seems actually impressed with him.Maybe I'm better than Wenger after all.

I am shocked because Wenger has watched his players basically make the boy look ordinary on the majority of occasions.If i'm buying a player ,i'm buying one that has exposed my current players,then i know i got a big timer.I think Mr.Wenger needs a word from me.


hes already losing it, you would push him over the edge Wink

 
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Post Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 8:38 am Reply with quote
specnur wrote:
O Dogg wrote:
Specnur - Your manager disagree's with you

Quote:
Arsène Wenger believes his team will come up against the best footballer in the world on Sunday.

Manchester United’s Cristiano Ronaldo has been in quite stunning form this season, plundering 37 goals in all competitions. Not bad for a man who is, by trade, a winger. And the Arsenal boss insists that his combination of style and efficiency has got Ronaldo where he is today.

Ominously for the Gunners, the Portuguese international was afforded a rest in United’s Champions League win over Roma on Wednesday.

“He is the best player in the world at the moment, because he has the combination of the two most difficult things in life,” said Wenger. “Style and efficiency.

“I have always loved efficiency and he had that in the goals he has scored. He plays as a winger but he's scored 37 goals. You cannot deny that.”


Also Wenger tried signing Ronaldo before he joined for United.


If that's true i am shocked ,but i would like to see a direct quote of that from wenger.I would have said he was just trying to be polite but ,In that sentence he seems actually impressed with him.Maybe I'm better than Wenger after all.

I am shocked because Wenger has watched his players basically make the boy look ordinary on the majority of occasions.If i'm buying a player ,i'm buying one that has exposed my current players,then i know i got a big timer.I think Mr.Wenger needs a word from me.


Laughing Laughing Laughing

final nail. now i know he is on a wind up

 

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Post Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 12:18 am Reply with quote
Hi guys im new.
To be honest i dont think that ronaldinho can be called the best at the moment because he hasnt played his best football for a while now and he is consistently injured. Messi and Ronaldo are the best in the world. Ronaldo is setting the epl on fire with what is it, over 25 goals and is always a threat. However, one thing that counts against him is the fact that he has failed to produce in big games. That was evident against Barca this morning....missed a penalty. I think the pressure of expectation on him maybe gets to him a little bit. Messi is the best in the world i think. He is a complete player. While Ronaldo flaunts his bag of tricks, Messi plays so simple yet so effective. If you saw him this morning he just plays a simple ball and looks for a one two and is always moving off the ball looking for a gap in the defence. I think tactically messi is more aware.
Lastly Fernando Torres is definetly worth a mention although i know he is not the best. He is an outstanding player. Ypu know that because as a Man Utd supporter when we played Liverpool i was scared everytime he got the ball because he is such a threat. That is always a signal of a great player. When they get the ball you get a feeling that something is going to happen.

 
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Post Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 12:50 pm Reply with quote
Welcome to the forum - stick around and enjoy Smile

Regarding the above quote Specnur, I got that directly from the Arsenal official website. It is all true. But I agree with you, Wenger should sit down over a couple of beers and get some tips off you. Wink

 
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Post Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 8:45 pm Reply with quote
Ronaldo is the best in the world, top scorer n the Premier League for a midfielder is unreal. And for those who say he does'nt do it on the big stage, he's top scorer in the Champions League to. Is that not a big stage? What about his good performances this season against Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea, Lyon, Roma? Even against Barca he won a penaltyand should of had 2 more. And he dives? Maybe 2 seasons ago but not anymore, Iniesta, Deco and Barca were doing all the diving the other night. All the Ronaldo haters will be eating humble pie when Ronaldo has the Premiership and Champions League in his arms.

 

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Post Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 9:20 pm Reply with quote
bigvestone wrote:
Hi guys im new.
To be honest i dont think that ronaldinho can be called the best at the moment because he hasnt played his best football for a while now and he is consistently injured. Messi and Ronaldo are the best in the world. Ronaldo is setting the epl on fire with what is it, over 25 goals and is always a threat. However, one thing that counts against him is the fact that he has failed to produce in big games. That was evident against Barca this morning....missed a penalty. I think the pressure of expectation on him maybe gets to him a little bit. Messi is the best in the world i think. He is a complete player. While Ronaldo flaunts his bag of tricks, Messi plays so simple yet so effective. If you saw him this morning he just plays a simple ball and looks for a one two and is always moving off the ball looking for a gap in the defence. I think tactically messi is more aware.
Lastly Fernando Torres is definetly worth a mention although i know he is not the best. He is an outstanding player. Ypu know that because as a Man Utd supporter when we played Liverpool i was scared everytime he got the ball because he is such a threat. That is always a signal of a great player. When they get the ball you get a feeling that something is going to happen.


Good post mate, totally agreed.

Be sure to introduce yourself in the newcomers forum as well!

 
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Post Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 10:32 pm Reply with quote
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Ronaldo is the best in the world, top scorer n the Premier League for a midfielder is unreal. And for those who say he does'nt do it on the big stage, he's top scorer in the Champions League to. Is that not a big stage? What about his good performances this season against Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea, Lyon, Roma? Even against Barca he won a penaltyand should of had 2 more. And he dives? Maybe 2 seasons ago but not anymore, Iniesta, Deco and Barca were doing all the diving the other night. All the Ronaldo haters will be eating humble pie when Ronaldo has the Premiership and Champions League in his arms.


will you stop repeating what you are sayin, im gonna fall asleep soon!
RONALDO DOES NOT DO IT ON THE BIG STAGE!!!
he is the best player in the world, but you cant say he played amazin in all them matches. he was so bad in barca match.

 
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Post Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 10:49 pm Reply with quote
KingDrogba wrote:
Ronaldo is the best in the world, top scorer n the Premier League for a midfielder is unreal. And for those who say he does'nt do it on the big stage, he's top scorer in the Champions League to. Is that not a big stage? What about his good performances this season against Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea, Lyon, Roma? Even against Barca he won a penaltyand should of had 2 more. And he dives? Maybe 2 seasons ago but not anymore, Iniesta, Deco and Barca were doing all the diving the other night. All the Ronaldo haters will be eating humble pie when Ronaldo has the Premiership and Champions League in his arms.


i would like to prove that kingdrogba is talking craps with something called facts. kingdrogba wont know what these are. he claims that ronaldo had good games in the ones above. but out of 10games that Man United played against these teams, ronaldo has scored 2goals. and in another thread kingdrogba said ronaldo has scored 60 goals this year!!
learn some facts drogba!

 
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Post Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 11:02 pm Reply with quote
I thought it was particularly funny when he claimed Ronaldo doesn't dive.

 
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Post Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 11:04 pm Reply with quote
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I thought it was particularly funny when he claimed Ronaldo doesn't dive.


next he will be sayin drogba is the hardest player in the prem!

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