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Sticky T wrote:
I was thinking more from last season though. Last season he impressed me more.


Now you never said last season? How would i know you think of last year? And why would i wanna think about last year?



Never heard of Septic Peg i mean Mystic Meg?


It doesn't matter. It was only one measly example. Overall from the last couple of years i'd still say he is very good anyway.

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G_Man wrote:
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I was thinking more from last season though. Last season he impressed me more.


Now you never said last season? How would i know you think of last year? And why would i wanna think about last year?



Never heard of Septic Peg i mean Mystic Meg?


It doesn't matter. It was only one measly example. Overall from the last couple of years i'd still say he is very good anyway.


Dont disagree just thought id ask. I find him to be a good player

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Hey all, first post and I'm from Hull, (don't laugh, we might be playing you next year!) but what's going to happen at Newcastle has been interesting me more than most other stuff since Kev got back, so I'll give my 2 cents :

Kev's well known for his attacking style, and yeah they could get far by attacking the hell out of teams, but if Newcastle are really going to be pushing for the big trophies from next season, I don't think that's going to cut it at all. The standard is just too high all over the pitch when you get to the best clubs nowadays, so he should probably try his best to strengthen the whole side.

First I'd love to see Owen stay. Yeah he had a confidence thing under Keegan before, and he's not done too well, but niether have the whole side. If Kev makes that side better, Owen will get a lot more chances on goal, and there's a chance he could run into the best form he's ever had, so yeah, I really hope he stays up in Newcastle, and that could be a big factor in how well the Magpies do next season. Also : with what they did to Tottenham the other day : that side, and the situation with club as a whole, doesn't look anywhere near as bad as it did, as far as I see it.

As for who to bring in : no clue, but as a first guess I'm thinking he'll go overseas a bit as well as buying from the UK, and bring in one or more from there. I just hope he doesn't buy too many older players. He should really be setting the side up for years to come with younger and middle aged (in football terms of course.) ones aswell.

Where to strengthen? Not totally sure here, but I'd suggest : A world class midfielder. Someone who can really hold the side together, and that can defend and attack if needed. Someone who can help them dominate in the middle of the pitch, where so much of the game is going to be fought out. Then a really good central defender to help shore up that defence. Like I said, I don't think just attacking will cut it when they come up against the best teams. After that I'd say a good winger, and I'm guessing that will probably happen, then another good striker. Maybe a really expensive and world class one, but I don't think he should spend too much and leave himself short for other areas of the pitch.

If he does all that, then brings in two or three up and coming players, maybe not very well known but who are quality, and can help give the squad some depth and promise for the future a bit more, I think they could end up shocking a lot of people next season.

Will all that happen? Probably not, but hopefully something of that nature will, and next season Newcastle can start ripping up some of the best teams in the Premiership, because I'd love to see them back at the top again.


i hope that hull are playin the toon next season. i have enjoyed seeing u lot comin up the leagues and would be great to see u make it to the prem. good message. as a toon fan i hope it happens but cant see it happening in the nest year. but hey, with Newcastle u never know whats gonna happen, gotta love that factor Razz

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Right Newcastle need to bring in some goal scorers and some good defenders cause what they have is shocking like for example Owen against Blackburn was shocking missed so many chances when they needed him to at least put one away..............No surprise for guessing where they need to strength the most and that is defense simply because Taylor hasn't got a decent partner again.............But for me i love seeing Newcastle struggle HAHAHA


can you remember torres missing all them chances against Newcastle???? hes stil the best forward in the prem. alot of people like to see us stuggle, not sure why tho....

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Kevin Keegan could be poised to move for Liverpool's beleaguered John Arne Riise after the Newcastle manager admitted left-backs are high on his summer shopping list. (BBC Rumour mill)

Lulz no thanks.

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Riise is a solid player. They need defenders and some organisation tactically. Players are good up front and in midfield.

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Kevin Keegan could be poised to move for Liverpool's beleaguered John Arne Riise after the Newcastle manager admitted left-backs are high on his summer shopping list. (BBC Rumour mill)

Lulz no thanks.


We'll pay you guys if you take him. We'll even drive him up.

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After listening to Keegans interview after the Chelsea match i have to say im not very happy!

He said that he will be looking to bring in 2 or 3 players Shocked
I was thinking atleast 5. If we only get 3 players i cant even see us getting 7th. I have a feeling that we will sell 2 or 3 players to begin with so its not sounding good.
It will all depend on who them 2 or 3 are but its not like they are gonna be worldclass.

If i was Keegan i would be looking for:
Center Back - atleast 1
back up for our full backs - we only have 2 full backs and they are playing Confused
Left Mid
Play maker - we dont create much for the forwards. Owen has been useful linking the forwards and the midfield but we cant ask him to keep doing that.
Forward - Viduka doesnt have much left in him. Its not like he used to run about loads but he cant even run now. If we come across someone like him but younger i would want to get him. Plus we might lose Owen or Martins. dont think so but still.

What is Keegan thinking! Rolling Eyes

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Forward - Viduka doesnt have much left in him. Its not like he used to run about loads but he cant even run now. If we come across someone like him but younger i would want to get him. Plus we might lose Owen or Martins. dont think so but still.


Dean Ashton.

i sincerely hope it does not happen but money talks

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Steely Hill wrote:
Jackpot_Jac wrote:

Forward - Viduka doesnt have much left in him. Its not like he used to run about loads but he cant even run now. If we come across someone like him but younger i would want to get him. Plus we might lose Owen or Martins. dont think so but still.


Dean Ashton.

i sincerely hope it does not happen but money talks


i would take him. But lets face it, its not much of a step up.

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exactly.

thats why money could play a key role in any possible move. he dont seem like that kind of bloke but you never know do you.

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He is a good player but he does get his share of injuries. Not sure how much he would cost aswel

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Newcastle United and Manchester City are reportedly tracking Porto defender Bruno Alves.

Alves has been in excellent form for the Portuguese Liga champions, and reports claim scouts from both United and City have been monitoring his progress.

The 26-year-old's current contract runs until 2012, and it is claimed that Porto would not accept an offer of less than 30million euros (£23.6million). Shocked

The central-half's agent, and father, has confirmed that a number of clubs are interested in signing Alves.

"Porto is not interested in a sale right now, but anything is possible after Euro 2008," agent Washington Alves said.

"Bruno is playing very well. A number of European clubs have asked about his contract situation."

The Porto defender added: "I am flattered by the reports but I have signed a deal with Porto, which complicates an exit.

"The club would only study an offer for me if the fee was of grand proportions."


Our past record on signing defenders is as bad as it gets. Im not sure about Alves but for 20m+ he has to be something special.

I cant understand why keegan would say he only wants 2 or 3 players and then pay this much for a defender. Confused

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A good manager could get that squad into the Uefa Cup or at least the top half with say £15-20m to spend.

They are basically set up front and in midfield still have a wealth of talent if someone can get them playing.

Duff, Emre, Barton, Butt, Martins, Owen, Viduka, Smith and so on are great, great players and are easilly as good on paper as Everton's set up.

Defense is the problem but Vidic cost only 7m from Spartak Moscow, Skrtel was cheap, Evra cost about 6m, Sagna was under 5m I think. That entire world class back line could have been assembled for around 20m.

Brilliant cheap defenders are out there if a manager knows where to look and knows a good player when he sees one.

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Newcastle are to release Stephen Carr, Peter Ramage and James Troisi at the end of the season.

The contracts of the trio run out this summer and Magpies manager Kevin Keegan has confirmed that they will not be offered new deals. "We wanted to keep Rammy but he wants to play regular football and I couldn't guarantee that here," Keegan told the club website. "He goes with our best wishes, as does Stephen Carr, who's been a great pro." Right-back Carr, who moved to Tyneside from Tottenham in August 2004, has endured an injury-hit campaign in which the 31-year-old has made only 10 starts and two appearances as a substitute. "He wasn't offered a contract and I explained the reasons why," added Keegan. Defender Ramage, 24, and midfielder Troisi, 19, are both products of the club's youth academy.
Troisi has failed to make an appearance for the Newcastle first team and has been let go as Keegan looks to improve his squad. "James Troisi has gone to play for Australia in the Olympics but he has not been offered a contract," said Keegan. Keegan is expected to have funds at his disposal during the summer and has already stated he is planning a number of signings as he attempts to get the club challenging for a European berth next season. "If I can get three or four players in to add to what I have got here - and we have that bit of luck you need with no injuries to key players - then we might be able to win the second division of the Premier League," he said after the 2-0 loss to Chelsea on Monday.

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i just finished reading about that. Im happy to see the back of Ramage and Carr. Ramage was a local lad but he was even too poor for our defence. Carr has just lost it and now that we have Beye we can say bye to him. I would have offered Troisi a contract though. I have been to a few reserve matches this season and when i have seen him hes been pretty good. I would have gave him a 2 year deal and see how he developes. I hope he does well in the Olympics and gets a contract at a good club. My mate plays for the reserves and if we are not keeping Troisi on then i cant see him getting a contract aswel. Looks like the standards are going up.

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Roonanialdo wrote:
"If I can get three or four players in to add to what I have got here - and we have that bit of luck you need with no injuries to key players - then we might be able to win the second division of the Premier League," he said after the 2-0 loss to Chelsea on Monday.


Haha, i like that. He's right though, the top 4 are so ahead they aren't even within reach. Blame Roman and Rafa. Before they came to England, Chelsea and Liverpool hadn't cemented those places.

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Defense is the problem but Vidic cost only 7m from Spartak Moscow, Skrtel was cheap, Evra cost about 6m, Sagna was under 5m I think. That entire world class back line could have been assembled for around 20m.

Brilliant cheap defenders are out there if a manager knows where to look and knows a good player when he sees one.


You're right. A lot of top class defenders cost under £10. You can add Agger and Heinze to that list as well.

Here's a list of defenders they could sign. I posted it over 3 months ago, so some circumstances have changed:


Defence

They need a leader. I thought Rozenhal would be a superb signing, however it didn't work out. I've also been thoroughly unimpressed by Taylor, and would look for 2 centre backs, instead of finding a partner for him. Getting two new fullbacks goes without saying. Their defence is a shambles.

Mensah - someone i rate highly, he is a leader, and is of the calibre Newcastle can attract. one of the best centre backs in the French league.

Cris - another very good centre back, but hasn't featured much for Lyon this season, so could look for a way out.

Chimbonda - looks likely to leave Tottenham, and Newcastle are the favourites to sign him.

Ben Haim - good defender, did very well with Bolton, but is way down in the pecking order at Chelsea, so would probably welcome a move to Newcastle.

Rocha - another good defender, proved his worth at the top level in the Champions League for Benfica, but hasn't really settled or had a look in at Tottenham. Is likely to leave.

Meira - superb defender, internationally experience with Portugal, and one of the best centre backs in the German league. Maybe wouldn't want to leave Stuttgart, but you never know - plenty of top class players have left for inferior teams in the premiership. He could relish the challenge or the attractions it offers.

Naldo - another very good centre back currently playing for a far better team than Newcastle, but you never know.

Burdisso - Argentina international, down in the pecking order at Inter. Could leave for first team football.

Riise - possibly leaving Liverpool.

Brown - wants more money, Man Utd aren't willing to pay it. Newcastle probably would. He's impressed me this season, and can play at fullback and in the centre.

Steinsson - someone i really like. I think he is a very good fullback, and i've not been able to say this yet, but moving to Newcastle would be a step up!

Stefanovic - quite a good defender - will probably get relegated with Fulham. Cheap, and could be used as cover.

Lauren - behind Jonhson at Portsmouth - knows what it's like to pay for a big team with pressure on him. Maybe want to leave for first team football.

Hyypia - getting on a bit, and could possibly leave Liverpool at the end of the season.

Helguera - stiff competition at Valencia - could look to follow fellow Spaniards Luque and Enrique...





I've heard Newcastle are interested in Metzelder. He has been injured a lot for Real Madrid, but he is a good player.

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good list sticky. I think we need three defenders. Im happy with Beye, Taylor and Enrique, but the rest we have are crap. really crap!

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If you're looking for players, Liverpool are having a boot sale with a few bargains...

Crouch would come at a cut-down price because of his contract; reportedly £8million. He could link up well with Martins and/or Owen, replacing Viduka.

Finnan would be available for a couple of mil, and playing part way to his ability of previous seasons would be a fantastic addition to your defence. Although you seem happy with Beye who's of the same position. Competition doesn't hurt though.

You could purchase Pennant for around £6million. I'm not sure but i don't think the right-wing is your strongest point, with your main wingers i can think of (Duff, N'Zogbia, Milner) all left-sided. And, although unpopular, would be comfortably good enough to start regularly in a side outside of the top four.

Always Riise too, if, like Finnan, he isn't offloaded to Villa. Would give Enrique some real competition.

Just trying to offload some of our deadwood on you... Wink But on a serious note i think Pennant would be a very good buy for you. Although it depends on formation you intend on using, as currently it's been more of a 4-3-3 without wingers i think.

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i would take some of them. Its hard to say what system we are gonna play next year. The best winger we have is Milner, who is right footed but can play on both (mainly right though). He has been great, even though he doesnt get the public credit that other english wingers have got in the past. Im not sure about pennant. Just havnt seen that much of him although he had a great game against Birm. I would take the two defenders. Can finnan play right and left?. Competition would be good because we only have the two full backs.
I have always wanted Crouch at Newcastle. I got told my someone inside Newcastle that he was close to coming to us and he changed his mind at the last minute to sign for you guys. If this is the case he might be interested again. He would be good with Owen and Martins.

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We won't do a Leeds - Mort:
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Newcastle United chairman Chris Mort insists the club will not "do a Leeds" in a bid to break into the Barclays Premier League's top four.

Magpies boss Kevin Keegan this week claimed the club had "no chance" of finishing any higher than fifth during the remaining three years of his contract.

Newcastle are bankrolled by billionaire businessman Mike Ashley but Mort revealed the fear of repeating the win-or-bust policy that saw Leeds mired in debt would prevent the club spending beyond its means.

Mort said in the Sun: "We don't want to do a Leeds. It doesn't make sense.

"This club had £100million-worth of debt which has now been cleared and it would be foolish to stretch it beyond its limits.

"I thought Kevin's comments were quite sensible.


"I'm not sure what people's expectations are but I don't think most Newcastle fans would be greatly surprised by what he had to say.

"There are those who are naturally optimistic but it does no harm to come out with some realism and say that if we get fifth, we will have done well. He's right."

Mort insisted Keegan would have money to spend, adding: "We have started talking about who we will be bringing in and Kevin will have the final say."

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Apparently Newcastle and Chelsea have joined ManU in the race for sporting midfielder Miguel Veloso's signature