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Venezuela president Hugo Chavez

Postby Hams » Tue Mar 05, 2013 11:15 pm

Its been reported that Venezuela's President Hugo Chavez has died of cancer.

Will he be remembered as a hero to the poor or as a dictator who wasted millions of his nations oil money?

Could there be an improvement now in relations with the USA which have been strained for many years?
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Postby BMJ » Wed Mar 06, 2013 11:46 am

He is just another communist leader that dreamers and naive people like to turn into this "hero of the poor" character.

The world is better off without him.
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Postby Hams » Wed Mar 06, 2013 12:12 pm

BMJ wrote:He is just another communist leader that dreamers and naive people like to turn into this "hero of the poor" character.

The world is better off without him.


I agree.

It can't be long now until Cuba's Fidel Castro joins him.

With regards to Chavez It was clear that all his so called
presidential election wins were rigged in his favour and only the brave opposition stopped him taking total power.

I remember he showed a great disrespect to Spain and King Juan Carlos and who can forget those comments about Bush!
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Postby KimKallstrom2 » Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:53 pm

The issue is that in South America you are pretty much unelectable if you openly oppose Hugo Chavez. I'd iamgine the next leader will be similar in their political stance.
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Postby specnur » Wed Mar 06, 2013 5:10 pm

Sorry to hear this news! The world needs more like him to keep the balance!
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Postby Hams » Wed Mar 06, 2013 9:00 pm

KimKallstrom2 wrote:The issue is that in South America you are pretty much unelectable if you openly oppose Hugo Chavez. I'd imagine the next leader will be similar in their political stance.


I had noticed that the majority of countries in S.America now have left wing socialist governments!
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Postby Steely Hill » Thu Mar 07, 2013 10:32 am

let's face it, this is only world news because he hasn't allowed his country to be raped by the Yanks. he was in charge of a hugely insignificant country in world terms which most people couldn't even pick out on a map.

i saw him described as a 'dictator' above - didn't he win four elections, all over seen by UN monitors?

i find this all similar to the Russian 'democracy' thread. if the Venezuelans are happy with his kind of leadership then good luck to them - it certainly has no impact on my life so if a carbon copy takes over then so be it.

the CIA and co have spent many years trying to oust Chavez and for what? certainly not for the good of Venezuela or it's people. indeed, the uprising after the failed 2002 coup showed how much public support Chavez had, regardless of the efforts to suppress their views.

he did also introduce free healthcare to his citizens - something the Yanks still fail to do.
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Postby NickKIELCEPoland » Thu Mar 07, 2013 10:54 am

Steely Hill wrote:let's face it, this is only world news because he hasn't allowed his country to be raped by the Yanks. he was in charge of a hugely insignificant country in world terms which most people couldn't even pick out on a map.

i saw him described as a 'dictator' above - didn't he win four elections, all over seen by UN monitors?

i find this all similar to the Russian 'democracy' thread. if the Venezuelans are happy with his kind of leadership then good luck to them - it certainly has no impact on my life so if a carbon copy takes over then so be it.

the CIA and co have spent many years trying to oust Chavez and for what? certainly not for the good of Venezuela or it's people. indeed, the uprising after the failed 2002 coup showed how much public support Chavez had, regardless of the efforts to suppress their views.

he did also introduce free healthcare to his citizens - something the Yanks still fail to do.

That's why I support democracy - because like you, I have that as a proviso.
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Postby specnur » Thu Mar 07, 2013 5:34 pm

Steely Hill wrote:let's face it, this is only world news because he hasn't allowed his country to be raped by the Yanks. he was in charge of a hugely insignificant country in world terms which most people couldn't even pick out on a map.

i saw him described as a 'dictator' above - didn't he win four elections, all over seen by UN monitors?

i find this all similar to the Russian 'democracy' thread. if the Venezuelans are happy with his kind of leadership then good luck to them - it certainly has no impact on my life so if a carbon copy takes over then so be it.

the CIA and co have spent many years trying to oust Chavez and for what? certainly not for the good of Venezuela or it's people. indeed, the uprising after the failed 2002 coup showed how much public support Chavez had, regardless of the efforts to suppress their views.

he did also introduce free healthcare to his citizens - something the Yanks still fail to do.


I support this stance 100%.

The only thing i would say is that it is absolutely impossible for the US to provide free health care to it's citizens. Venezuela are sitting on enough oil to facilitate there healthcare system in that tiny country so it a lot easier.
We need more chavez' i'll tell you that!
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