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Should owners have more faith in managers?

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Should owners have more faith?

Postby Davey1 » Sun Nov 17, 2013 7:40 pm

The current top 3 (Arsenal, Liverpool, Southampton) have 1 thing in common. They all have the same manager as last season.

Tottenham, Manchester United, Manchester City and Chelsea are the clubs you would expect to be in top 4 but haven't perfrormed as well. 3 out of 4 of those have new managers this season.

Most high profile managers don't normally last longer than 24 months. Is it time to stick with a manager even if they don't reach their goals in the first season?

Chelsea have sacked AVB, Di Matteo and Rafa Benitez in such a short space of time. I think any of those managers could of won Chelsea more cups.
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Postby Stan Kroenke's moustache » Mon Nov 18, 2013 1:28 am

Davey1 wrote:The current top 3 (Arsenal, Liverpool, Southampton) have 1 thing in common. They all have the same manager as last season.

Tottenham, Manchester United, Manchester City and Chelsea are the clubs you would expect to be in top 4 but haven't perfrormed as well. 3 out of 4 of those have new managers this season.

Most high profile managers don't normally last longer than 24 months. Is it time to stick with a manager even if they don't reach their goals in the first season?
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Yeah if the Glazers gave Fergie more time at the club he might have won a couple trophies.
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Postby Steely Hill » Mon Nov 18, 2013 12:09 pm

it's impossible to give a blanket answer really as there are so many variables.

stability is a big asset to have though as it allows a club to build and grow while being an attraction for players both to remain at the club and join. however, the game is so money orientated these days that the value of this becomes lesser by the year.
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Postby Hams » Mon Nov 18, 2013 5:00 pm

In an ideal world club owners would give managers more time to build their own squads
and systems of play however we now live in a different era where immediate results on the pitch are all that matters
so we will never see another period where the likes of Fergie will coach Man Utd for 25 years and Wenger will be the last of his kind.

We have had some really rubbish managers at West Ham with the worst being Avram Grant and I couldn't wait to see the back of him.
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Postby Davey1 » Mon Nov 18, 2013 6:01 pm

Hams wrote:In an ideal world club owners would give managers more time to build their own squads
and systems of play however we now live in a different era where immediate results on the pitch are all that matters
so we will never see another period where the likes of Fergie will coach Man Utd for 25 years and Wenger will be the last of his kind.

We have had some really rubbish managers at West Ham with the worst being Avram Grant and I couldn't wait to see the back of him.


Spot on. I think a manager should be judged when he has the team he wants, otherwise he's working on a squad the previous manager got sacked for. It's much tougher for teams who don't have the budget to buy high profile players that can make an instant difference.

I find it baffling that Sunderland invested lots of money in Italian players for Di Canio and they sacked him. Yes they were underperforming but this was his first start to a season.
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Postby Steely Hill » Tue Nov 19, 2013 10:38 am

the world has changed though. an underperforming manager of say 20 years ago only really had the people on the terraces to answer to. now there are literally millions of armchair experts around the world calling for his head and influencing opinion on each other via the interweb.

the pressure on chairmen to wilt under the pressure of the people is immense. especially for one that doesn't really 'get' football or have enough knowledge of their own to properly determine the manager's suitability.

in general, football supporters will call for a manager to be sacked when a bad run kicks in without any thought towards a long term strategy. a manager is only ever about 15 games from the sack at any given point in their career.

its an era of instant gratification. if we don't get it we demand action to be taken. we demand loyalty from players and managers but offer them nothing in return should their performance be less than ideal. it's madness.
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Postby Davey1 » Thu Nov 21, 2013 1:15 am

Qpr are currently 3rd in the table of the Championship. That's not bad after a relegation with Harry Redknapp.

You're right. Fans calling for heads is usually the deciding factor.
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Postby Steely Hill » Thu Nov 21, 2013 10:23 am

Davey1 wrote:Qpr are currently 3rd in the table of the Championship. That's not bad after a relegation with Harry Redknapp.

You're right. Fans calling for heads is usually the deciding factor.


for them third is the absolute minimum they should be, given the players that are still there. people confuse the competitiveness of the Championship for it being a league of good quality. it isn't, it is utter shite.

if they do not get one of the automatic promotion places it would be a disaster.
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