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Luis Suarez - Liverpool Legend?

Postby Steely Hill » Mon Jan 13, 2014 10:48 am

19 of his 22 goals this season have come against teams in the bottom half of the table. 2 of his goals came against a dreadful Spurs side in that 5-0 drubbing and the other was the 3-3 Merseyside derby goalfest.

Similarly, he has failed to score in 6 games, all against clubs in the top half of the table.

while there is no doubting the ability of the goofy little scumbag, do the above stats represent a true picture of his influence in the big games?

will he be forever be a thorn in the side of the mighty Norwich but a mere ghost to the cream of the crop?
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Postby Pickleman1967 » Mon Jan 13, 2014 1:19 pm

I think it is a bit harsh to call him a flat track bully, as although he hasn't scored against the top three clubs this season he has scored goals against Man City, Man United, Chelsea and Arsenal in a Liverpool shirt. I accept he gets the majority of his goals from the smaller clubs, but that is inevitable as they have weaker midfields and defensive lines.

I think what the stats show is that he is a player with a real hunger and desire to score every game. He doesn't go missing, he is always looking to grab a goal. A trip to a place like Stoke is always a pain for the big clubs - they can be extremely hard work. If, as a 'big' club, you lose at Stoke, Hull, Swansea etc. everybody points and laughs. Win and everybody says you should be winning those games anyway.

The truth is that a potential title winning side will not slip up at these grounds, and that is where Suarez is a valuable asset. He is a threat to the better clubs (as I've already said he has scored against them all) - Arsenal, Chelsea and Man City have to go to Anfield this season, and I wouldn't be surprised if he gets a goal or two against them all.
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Postby Pickleman1967 » Mon Jan 13, 2014 3:48 pm

I don't think it is fair comparison you make. Aguero is having a remarkable season, and is in a team crammed with stars. Man City will probably go on to break goal scoring records this season, on the way to lifting the title. Any striker will look like a dud when compared to him.

Liverpool have finished 6th, 8th and 7th in the last three seasons. They are no mugs, but that stat alone tells you they do not have the same quality in their ranks as a team like Man City. A striker needs quality service and assists to score goals - Liverpool have not always been able to provide that to Suarez. I'm absolutely convinced he would score against all comers if Man City decided to buy him (Jesus, I hope that doesn't happen).

I'm not here to defend Liverpool, and Suarez is not the most likable personality lets face it. However, he is a talented player. If Liverpool would like to swap this 'Norwich nemesis' for a real striker, may I suggest Mystery Striker 'S'.

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This man cost £26M and has scored more Premiership goals than I've had hot dinners*. Come on Liverpool, you know it makes sense.

* Please note, I follow a strict raw food diet.
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Postby mrtz » Mon Jan 13, 2014 4:48 pm

Obviously the quality of defenders comes into play. When they double up on him, you can't expect him to continue bagging in goals for fun. It's not like he never scores against top sides either -- his role isn't simply to score, he has 9 other guys on the outfield who can get space because opposition focus is on him, and for the most part, he gets guys like Henderson, Coutinho, and Sterling to get some space. He'll at least give us a chance by winning corners.

It's a testament to the quality of the defense rather than an indictment on Suarez.

Also, when you compare the quality of players around Aguero or Messi or Ronaldo to those around Suarez, it's not difficult to see who has the upper hand.
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