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  • Moravcik
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or win the European Cup ay mate Wink , weak comeback mikeyboy - that is a team achievment not an individual one.

you say you have stats to back the fact you think lampard is better but they are old stats. Stats that have come about becuase Lampard is arguably in the best team in the world.

I guarantee take Lampard out of Chelsea and he would be half the player he is.

Steven Gerrard is better than Frank in every way!


Totally agree!

 
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I guarantee take Lampard out of Chelsea and he would be half the player he is.
Again this is just what you think, you can say this as much as you like but at the end of the day i can say Lampard came second in the World player of the year. It's all fantastic keep bringing it on.

 
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Just for you guys who dout it

Ronaldinho scoops European award

To be here with all those great players applauding me is a dream come true

Ballon D'Or winner Ronaldinho
Barcelona and Brazil playmaker Ronaldinho was named 2005 European Footballer of the Year on Monday.
The 25-year-old was favourite to claim the Ballon D'Or, having already won the 2004 Fifa World Player of the Year and the inaugural FIFpro award.

The Ballon D'Or is widely accepted to be the highest accolade available to a player plying his trade in Europe.

Chelsea midfielder Frank Lampard came second, while Liverpool's Steven Gerrard finished third.

Arsenal striker Thierry Henry was fourth in the voting, followed by AC Milan and Ukraine forward Andriy Shevchenko, who won last year.

"To be here with all those great players applauding me is a dream come true," said Ronaldinho after receiving the golden ball trophy at a ceremony in Paris attended by several former winners.

"This gives me motivation to keep working and try to emulate them.

2005 BALLON D'OR RESULTS
1. Ronaldinho (Barcelona)
2. Frank Lampard (Chelsea)
3. Steven Gerrard (Liverpool)
4. Thierry Henry (Arsenal)
5. Andriy Shevchenko (AC Milan)
6. Paolo Maldini (AC Milan)
7. Adriano (Inter Milan)
8. Zlatan Ibrahimovic (Juventus)
9. Kaka (AC Milan)
10= Samuel Eto'o (Barcelona)
10= John Terry (Chelsea)
"I have the chance to do for a living what I like the most in life, and that's playing football. I can make people happy and enjoy myself at the same time."

Ronaldinho was instrumental in helping Barcelona to clinch their first Primera Liga title since 1999 last season, scoring nine goals and providing many more.

His form this season seems to be even more impressive with another great goal in Sunday's win over Racing Santander seeing him match last year's entire league haul after just 12 games.

He even earned a standing ovation from members of the Bernabeu crowd in Barcelona's 3-0 win at bitter rivals Real Madrid little over a week ago - an honour only previously bestowed on a Barca player when Argentina legend Diego Maradona played there in the 1980s.

He has also been a key figure for Brazil, helping the world champions top the South American qualifying group.

Ronaldinho is the third Brazilian to win the award for performances at Barcelona, after Ronaldo in 1997 and Rivaldo in 1999.

Ronaldo, who also won in 2002, had left the Nou Camp for Inter Milan when he picked up his first award.

The Ballon D'Or is voted for by European football journalists selected by French magazine France Football.

The award celebrated its 50th anniversary in Paris on Monday night and was first won by Stanley Matthews while he was at Blackpool in 1956.

Manchester United trio Denis Law, Bobby Charlton and George Best all won the prize, respectively in 1964, 1966 and 1968.

Kevin Keegan won in 1978 and 1979 and Michael Owen was the last English winner, for his displays at Liverpool in 2001.

 
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mate, that was ages ago for his good season 2 seasons ago. we've moved on! michael owen was once voted european player of the year and does not mean he was the best player in europe, just meant he played really well in the season leading up to the votes.

thats what lampard did. had a good season so got his rewards.

However, Gerrard always plays at an equal standard at least to lampard and more often than not plays better. but this is natural and because this is just the standard gerrard sets himself it is not seen as out of the ordinary.

Lamprds was voted 2nd best player because he had such a goods season compared to the player he is.

 
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Thats good. you don't see any players who aren't worthy of the award

1990 - Lothar Matthaus
1991 - Jean-Pierre Papin
1992 - Marco Van Basten
1993 - Roberto Baggio
1994 - Hristo Stoichkov
1995 - George Weah
1996 - Matthias Sammer
1997 - Ronaldo
1998 - Zinedine Zidane
1999 - Rivaldo
2000 - Luis Figo
2001 - Michael Owen
2002 - Ronaldo
2003 - Pavel Nedved
2004 - Andrei Shevchenko
2005 - Ronaldinho

 
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put it like this,,,you wont see lampard ever win it again! gerrard on the other hand may well do.

 
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lampard and gerrard i would same are on the same level. if you look at lampard , yes great passing and his shooting is amazing, if you look at gerrard , the same good passing a shooting, but with lampard then he doesnt have to worry what is behind him because makelele is covering him, but if you look at gerrerd when he plays in the centre he cant get forward the same as lampard because alonso goes forward and gerrard sits and then vice versa but when he plays on the right he hase a free role to get forward and then he has the fitness and ditermination to get back

 
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gerrard, even though not playing well still playing better than lamps this season.

Could this be the long downward spirral starting to begin that we all new would happen to lampard? Very Happy

 
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i think that lampard is the better looking of the 2 so but from wht ive heard gerard plays better cos frank is getting fat haaaaaaa

 
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you have heard correct posie, he is the better of the 2. wouldnt no about who is better looking but i heard stevie was voted best looking footballer by gays? Confused

anywhooooo, lamps is getting fat Wink

 
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Ha Ben. Billyfozz was right all you do is name calling,

 
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shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

 

Gerrard Every day of the week

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Lampard is one of the best players in the world and would walk into any team he saw fit

BUT

Stevie G is better when it comes to shooting, defending, passing, reading the game and motivating his fans/teammates/country

Lampard will always be good, like now even though hes not on form hes still a world beater (well almost being English he can't take penaltys for toffee)

 

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Yid Yan wrote:


Stevie G is better when it comes to shooting, defending, passing, reading the game and motivating his fans/teammates/country



You missed one "ing" mate.........

"CHEATING"

 

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billyfozz wrote:
Yid Yan wrote:


Stevie G is better when it comes to shooting, defending, passing, reading the game and motivating his fans/teammates/country



You missed one "ing" mate.........

"CHEATING"


Laughing Laughing Laughing sooo gerrard may dive to get a pen once or twice, supose no Everton players do it.

 
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Well we certainly aint famous for it whatever the answer is son

btw be quiet you's got beat AGAIN today Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

 
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wtf, you telling me to be quite, listen here lad, you may have beat us but you certainly dont hae bragging rights in Liverpool, come back when you have won a cup of some sort

 
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Awww don't get upset son.

I know you admire me very much by the way you use a lot of my words Wink


p.s.

Can we stick to the topic now please...

Thank you!

 
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As A general football fan who likes to watch any team play, i dont think you can compare the two players, GERRARD is a FAR better allround player, LAMPARD is a GOOD player in a GREAT team, were as GERRARD is a GREAT player in GOOD team

if both played for say SUNDERLAND, wich would have the most impact on the pitch, i think most football fans would say GERRARD.

 
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as a chels fan i should say lamps, but i'll be honest and say that gerrard is the better all-round player. More of a leader, more box-to-box, and generally more of an athlete.

Is Stevie G. or Lampard better?
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