ive done refereeing. i know exactly what its like. i think you will find that im one of the few that backs referees and very rarely attacks referees for making mistakes. i accept that mistakes happen. in fact if you actually read what i have typed then you will see just that.

i dont see what your point actually is. do elaborate please.

look bluenose if you are going to act like a f*cking child every time somebody makes a post on the contrary to what goes on in your tiny brain then why do you bother replying?

did you personally produce that league table? i think not. so why get so uptight? i have disagreed with the system that produces the table, you dont have to cry over it. if you feel i am wrong then tell me why. engage your brain and use it properly. that is the whole point of this place i thought.

stir up sh*t? from what i can see the majority agree with what i have said? perhaps they too are all sh*t stirrers?

one question, if that league had put Everton in say 8th position would you have c&p'd it? the answer is an obvious no. so therefore my previous sentence was fully valid (the one im sure you would have picked up on). if you argue that point you are kidding yourself.

quit acting like a f*cking child at every opportunity and either engage in relatively adult debate or dont bother. either way i dont care. i will not have you constantly bickering about crap, saying things like 'leave it out nobby' is both childish and embarrassing for a middle aged bloke like yourself. id expect it from somebody of millsy's age.

grow up and stop raping the forum of your crap.

other sections may tolerate it but this section will not. if you have an issue take it up with somebody else because i am tired of dealing with you. that is the reason for this extended reply. its constant and tiresome. and i for one am sick of it.

if anybody else has an issue im available as always via PM. i try to be fair to people and if thats not good enough then you know the avenues available to complain.

Ooooo nasty....


Maybe you should just STOP replying to my posts instead of going against everything I say then...


Peace man....


I love simple solutions....

This makes up for Andy Johnson's robbing in 2006-07

We already have a oleoleole

or...

maybe i should reply to whatever post i like from whoever it is in whatever form i choose and you stop being so sensitive.

now isnt that a novel idea.

You said please so i will. Good lad.

"yes but my point is that this system is just as flawed as the refereeing itself".


Even tho you back referees you say refeering is flawed. They set rules players should abide by them. Simple as. Get them to say what the decision so the crowd hear it like rugby. Get them to have someone upstair to decide if it was overline or not. Stop play so you play 90 minutes of football. That would work.

Point i make is none of that wont happen just yet. Until then abide by the rules that are given infront of you. Like you i also refereed. From the age of 18 to 20.

of course refereeing is flawed.

what system is perfect? would trial by viedo be perfect? i dont think so.

of course players should abide by them. but that means for better or worse. sh*t goes wrong. its a fact of life. you are only talking about the plainly obvious 'over the line decisions'. you have been a ref, look deeper. what about the seemingly unimportant free kicks on the half way line? they too can change a game. where do you draw the line?

its a huge can of worms that can not be opened.

the system in place now is the best thats humanly possible. the increase in cameras and highlights etc has highlighted the refereeing errors. i would be highly doubtful the standard of refereeing is so much different from 30 years ago. the players didnt lead mass verbal attacks as much back then from what i am aware.

No wonder tho. If something happened back then the players would fight n fight n get what ban? a big ban? nah i dont think so.

Rugby you see how successful that is with refeering. Never see there refs in the paper saying how bad they are. or are they cheats? would you disagree?

yes and no.


you dont see that because rugby does not have the column inches. it does not generate as much interest and therefore any headlines are minimal and barely read anyway.

besides that i have personaly seen many occasions where opponents are deliberatly punched clean in the face, sometimes cowardly from behind or while in a scrum. perhaps this is acceptable? rugby is not as clean cut as people make out, there is a bit of a myth surrounding the sportsmanship of rugby players. im sure any genuine rugby fans will agree.

You dont get all this pathetic drama. You dont get diving. You dont get any fake injuries.

Course not acceptable but refs try to "stamp" it out the game.

Its alot more successful than what football is when it comes to sportsmanship

Diving is virtually impossible in Rugby.

Trying to stay away from you remember. Please do the same. Thats why i said it cause i know it dosnt happen. State the obvious

Do what you like and call me what you like...

dont be silly. its incomparable.

what advantage would be gained by diving or feigning injury in rugby!?? thats the obvious reason it does not occur!! come on mate!

is punching somebody in the jaw more sporting than diving? well thats another matter.

Punching someone in the jaw happens in football every week. No case you got there.

Faking injury takes time. The clock dosnt stop bang on

it happens every week?

in which case point out 4 cases in march where somebody was punched in the face....

Elbowed in face ok no problem because we both know punching in face dosnt happen every week in rugby either.

i never said such events did occur every week, you will find that was you.

as much as i am enjoying this riveting conversation ( ) it is veering off topic somewhat.

Yea it does, there only 7 games a week in the Super14 and i guarantee theres atleast one full on punch up in one of those games.