- specnur
- Young Pro
- Joined: 29 Mar 2006
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| Steely Hill wrote: |
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like i said, i was not sure.
its irrelevant to the point i was making anyway to be fair |
You did go on to say
" now i dont claim to be an expert on The Kaiser but i dont think he works for FIFA or indeed could ever be described as a FIFA official... i could be wrong but im quite sure he has no dealings with them in an employment sense".
No point with this statement. Your just making things up. |
At this juncture some would gloat.I will move on with class.
My point was why are sky giving this lead story coverage,when we are in the middle of Champions League quarters amongst other things.It has no relevance whatsoever and is nothing but a sad attempt at sh*t stirring. They used Arsenal's name in the opening to the show concerning this topic in an obvious attempt to sway public opinion make no mistake about it.
I mean if your the average Brit this kind of "subliminal" brainwashing will go unnoticed, but to me it's obvious what they are trying to do,because the story came out of nowhere and was basically an item last year. |
brainwashing!? you are so paranoid you must be on coke.
your concern for us 'Brits' is touching but unnecessary.
you will move on with class? just by saying that you have 'gloated'!! like i said i wasnt wrong, i was merely unaware like i clearly stated form the beginning. |
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- Hudge
- Grass Roots
- Joined: 12 Apr 2008
- Posts: 18
- Location: Behind you
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| Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 2:34 pm |
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| specnur wrote: |
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Lead story on sky Franz beckenbauer's comments on foreign player gives Sky the chance to bash he Gunners again.It's not a new topic so why now.it wasn't like a fifa summit on the issue,but i guess Sky are a bit desperate to keep the iron hot in their quest to build more animosity towards the mighty Arsenal.
4 teams in the Champions League quarters and every team has a heavy foreign presence ,what does it tell you?Dear old Franz needs to shut up and go over to England and see the youth development and find out why they ain't good enough. |
perhaps it would be helpful if you copied and pasted the offending article... if its not too much trouble.
i have taken the liberty of doing this myself, here it is...
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Franz Beckenbauer believes that the Premier League is the strongest in the world.
England's top-flight has four representatives in the last eight of the UEFA Champions League, provided three of the four semi-finalists last season, and has had a team in the final for each of the last three campaigns.
Legendary West Germany player and coach Beckenbauer, nicknamed the Kaiser, feels that the players on show in the Premier League put it ahead of the likes of La Liga, Serie A and the Bundesliga.
And despite England's failure to qualify for Euro 2008, he insists the national side remain a force to be reckoned with.
Success
He told Sky Sports News: "The Premier League in England is probably the strongest league in the whole world.
"You can see all these fantastic players in the Premier League and that's the key to success.
"If you look to the Champions League there are four teams left from England, so English football is still in the leading position in the world.
"The European Championships without England is not the same. England are still one of the best teams in the whole world.
"I think it was an accident. They needed a draw at home against Croatia and they lost the game. I feel very, very sorry for them."
Situation
Critics claim that the recent success of English sides in Europe is mainly down to the influx of foreign talent.
And while Beckenbauer accepts that Arsenal often not having a single English player in their starting XI is 'extreme' it is an issue which affects other leading leagues.
He said: "The situation at Arsenal for example, it's an extreme situation because there is not one English player left in the team.
"But we don't have to look to England, we have to look to ourselves in Germany, 80 to 90 per cent of the teams have mostly foreign players." |
now from what i can gather that is all fair comment really.
what exactly do you take issue with?
Sky have simply reported on some comments made by an influential figure in the sport. nothing he says there is controversial or untrue.
where is his Arsenal agenda? he simply points out that they are an extreme with regards to foreign imports... thats the truth. he also goes on to say that in his country 80-90% of teams are like that. hardly full of animosity is he.
the most laughable part of it is you having the cheek to talk down to a man like Franz Beckebauer. im sure Franz could learn a lot from a man like you. |
Perhaps that is why Specnur didn't quote the actual story? What Beckenbauer said was perfectly reasonable, and accurate.
It's laughable that Specnur tries to claim some sort of "anomiosity" posed towards his beloved Arsenal when if anything Beckenbauer was defending them, saying the situation is/has been no different in other countries. |
How can he say that it was an accident that england lost to croatia! with no disrespect to the mentally challenged ,that is retarded.They had to draw and they lost ,they are NOT good enough.Franz.B. was kissing *ss because he was asked a certain question by a British reporter.
Call it being diplomatic if you want, i call him being spineless because he's just being a fifa official.
The facts are .
1. Top four teams in the league have a heavy foreign presence.
2.t Those same teams still remain in the champs league quarter finals.
3. The National team never made it into Europe.
= British players are not good enough. Like it or not.
Now Sky will try and paint the picture that British players are suffering because of the foreign influx,in an attempt to deflect attention away from the lack of technical ability of their countrymen. Sir Trev had the b*lls to say it so why not listen.
That same Arsenal team almost won the Champs league with 10 (foreign) men.
I have always said that the prem is the best in the world and Arsenal are only as good as what they are because they are in the Prem,with that aggressive style of play.There is nothing actually wrong with most of what he said i took issue with a few comments.My problem is why Sky are reporting on this matter last week ,what made this a lead story.I find it bizarre and completely out of the blue.It has no relation to the recent topics of respect or dirty play or the massive champ league games that we are in the middle of.
Rather than be proud of the fact that British teams are at the forefront of the modern game they would rather quote somebody talking about it in a negative light.
Foreign players in the league is not a negative it's a positive ,if they weren't here the league would be sh*t.They need to focus on why British talent is hard to find and why they lag behind every other established footballing country. |
They reported on it then because that's when he said it, simple as that, every football team's fans feel they are victimised, the fact is they are because they're not Manchester United( unless they are Man U in which case they aren't being victimized.
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