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Post Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 12:12 am Reply with quote
It would be very hard to choose between Clichy and Hleb imo.I don't think there are many other players who
have been more consistently effective in the big games.In terms of all around class and professionalism no one is better than Clichy,the kid looks like he doesn't have a bad word for anyone and treats every player with respect.In fact it's one side of him i admire but don't like myself. How he can perform at that level being so genuinely nice is astonishing.
Hleb is the most effective Dribbler in the league imo and no team has stopped him from doping exactly what he does game in and game out. He still gets no respect in general,but in the Man U game the other day i think i heard the commentator , and former player ,say he doesn't think there is a better dribbler in the game today which was refreshing to hear.I think the lack of goals holds him back in many eyes ,but not mine.I don't believe every player on the park needs to score goals and i tend to look at teams as machines that have a lot of parts that look unimportant ,but without would not operate.

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Post Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 12:20 am Reply with quote
for Newcastle, i have to go with beye. big sam has found a great player, shame he is not younger.

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Post Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 6:33 am Reply with quote
specnur wrote:
It would be very hard to choose between Clichy and Hleb imo.I don't think there are many other players who
have been more consistently effective in the big games.In terms of all around class and professionalism no one is better than Clichy,the kid looks like he doesn't have a bad word for anyone and treats every player with respect.In fact it's one side of him i admire but don't like myself. How he can perform at that level being so genuinely nice is astonishing.
Hleb is the most effective Dribbler in the league imo and no team has stopped him from doping exactly what he does game in and game out. He still gets no respect in general,but in the Man U game the other day i think i heard the commentator , and former player ,say he doesn't think there is a better dribbler in the game today which was refreshing to hear.I think the lack of goals holds him back in many eyes ,but not mine.I don't believe every player on the park needs to score goals and i tend to look at teams as machines that have a lot of parts that look unimportant ,but without would not operate.


Fukcin ell Specnur......I'm starting to get worried about myself......I find myself agreeing with what you say yet AGAIN Wink I have both those boys in my top 11 team.

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Post Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 6:54 am Reply with quote
specnur can talk some sense to be fair to him.

its his sheer arrogance and pig headedness that let him down

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Post Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:12 am Reply with quote
specnur wrote:
It would be very hard to choose between Clichy and Hleb imo.I don't think there are many other players who
have been more consistently effective in the big games.In terms of all around class and professionalism no one is better than Clichy,the kid looks like he doesn't have a bad word for anyone and treats every player with respect.In fact it's one side of him i admire but don't like myself. How he can perform at that level being so genuinely nice is astonishing.
Hleb is the most effective Dribbler in the league imo and no team has stopped him from doping exactly what he does game in and game out. He still gets no respect in general,but in the Man U game the other day i think i heard the commentator , and former player ,say he doesn't think there is a better dribbler in the game today which was refreshing to hear.I think the lack of goals holds him back in many eyes ,but not mine.I don't believe every player on the park needs to score goals and i tend to look at teams as machines that have a lot of parts that look unimportant ,but without would not operate.


For the first time, I find your post to be completely right. I can't choose between Hleb and Flamini(Most improved player of our side IMO) for us this season.

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Post Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:58 am Reply with quote
Ronaldo obviously.

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Post Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:31 am Reply with quote
Ronaldo or Torres.

One scores for fun from the wing and the other scores for fun in his 1st season.

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Post Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 10:21 pm Reply with quote
Roonanialdo wrote:
specnur wrote:
It would be very hard to choose between Clichy and Hleb imo.I don't think there are many other players who
have been more consistently effective in the big games.In terms of all around class and professionalism no one is better than Clichy,the kid looks like he doesn't have a bad word for anyone and treats every player with respect.In fact it's one side of him i admire but don't like myself. How he can perform at that level being so genuinely nice is astonishing.
Hleb is the most effective Dribbler in the league imo and no team has stopped him from doping exactly what he does game in and game out. He still gets no respect in general,but in the Man U game the other day i think i heard the commentator , and former player ,say he doesn't think there is a better dribbler in the game today which was refreshing to hear.I think the lack of goals holds him back in many eyes ,but not mine.I don't believe every player on the park needs to score goals and i tend to look at teams as machines that have a lot of parts that look unimportant ,but without would not operate.


Fukcin ell Specnur......I'm starting to get worried about myself......I find myself agreeing with what you say yet AGAIN Wink I have both those boys in my top 11 team.


It's not a coincidence mate, i'm that good!

On a more serious note ,i think a lot of Arsenal fans deserve a lot of questioning really.If you look at how many , so called Gunner fans , pick Hleb when choosing their best 11 or man of the match etc.

Flamini has been impeccable this season and for all the attention Cesc get's ,this season Flamini was captain material in my eyes.

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