So, is that it then?

Big Jono · Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 4:45 pm

-Manchester United champions

-Arsenal, Chelsea, and Liverpool in the Champions League

-Everton in the UEFA Cup spot (only one for league)

-Derby, Bolton and Fulham relegated

Is there anything left to play for? What do you think might change in the last few games?

Chelsea to win the title? Everton to stuff up 5th? Someone to climb outta the relegation spots?

floody · Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 4:51 pm

The (fingers crossed) poor form of Bolton will be the only thing that will keep us up. Our away form is abysmal and with just two home games left, one of which against a strong Spurs side, unless we pick up points on the road and fast, its going to go right down to the wire for us. In Wigan and Derby, there are games that we could and should pick up points from at their grounds, but I just don't see it, we are so short of goal scorers at the moment it is unreal. Hence i can really see us perhaps being majorly dragged back into it, because Bolton have a couple of games they could get something from.

Big Jono · Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 4:55 pm

floody wrote:

The (fingers crossed) poor form of Bolton will be the only thing that will keep us up. Our away form is abysmal and with just two home games left, one of which against a strong Spurs side, unless we pick up points on the road and fast, its going to go right down to the wire for us. In Wigan and Derby, there are games that we could and should pick up points from at their grounds, but I just don't see it, we are so short of goal scorers at the moment it is unreal. Hence i can really see us perhaps being majorly dragged back into it, because Bolton have a couple of games they could get something from.

Important few games for your fellas then, staying up this season will be more important than most imo because the three teams it looks like are coming up will go straight back down. So staying up might mean two seasons of prem football to sort out a squad which can move into the mid table and stay there.

LeEoNaLdO · Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 5:47 pm

It looks that way at the minute does'nt it? I can't see Fulham or Bolton getting points from anywhere in the last few games. With the results both of these teams got today I can't see either of them turning it around in the next game. Fulham's defensve performance against the already relegated Derby County, said it all for me. As for the recent Bolton performance against Arsenal, their seconf half display just shows they havn't got what it takes mentally to survive.

Personally I would like to see Bolton stay up.

Bluenose · Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 5:55 pm

Big Jono wrote:

-Manchester United champions

-Arsenal, Chelsea, and Liverpool in the Champions League

-Everton in the UEFA Cup spot (only one for league)

-Derby, Bolton and Fulham relegated

Is there anything left to play for? What do you think might change in the last few games?

Chelsea to win the title? Everton to stuff up 5th? Someone to climb outta the relegation spots?

Or even l,pool to stuff up fourth

btw... well done l,pool for helping Man Utd win the league... Laughing

MontyMagpie · Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 6:11 pm

Big Jono wrote:

-Manchester United champions

-Arsenal, Chelsea, and Liverpool in the Champions League

-Everton in the UEFA Cup spot (only one for league)

-Derby, Bolton and Fulham relegated

Is there anything left to play for? What do you think might change in the last few games?

Chelsea to win the title? Everton to stuff up 5th? Someone to climb outta the relegation spots?

Who for the Intertoto place? Portsmouth or Villa? I'll go for Portsmouth.

Man Utd to win title with ease. 2nd and 3rd Arsenal and Chelsea.

4th place is still up for grabs after todays result. Everton need to win tomorrow against Derby. That should be just 3 points behind. Everton can do themselves a favour and grab as many goals as they can against Derby. How about 6 goals.

Derby Fulham Bolton look for the drop.

And Newcastle to finish ahead of Spurs. Very Happy

floody · Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 6:27 pm

Big Jono wrote:

floody wrote:

The (fingers crossed) poor form of Bolton will be the only thing that will keep us up. Our away form is abysmal and with just two home games left, one of which against a strong Spurs side, unless we pick up points on the road and fast, its going to go right down to the wire for us. In Wigan and Derby, there are games that we could and should pick up points from at their grounds, but I just don't see it, we are so short of goal scorers at the moment it is unreal. Hence i can really see us perhaps being majorly dragged back into it, because Bolton have a couple of games they could get something from.

Important few games for your fellas then, staying up this season will be more important than most imo because the three teams it looks like are coming up will go straight back down. So staying up might mean two seasons of prem football to sort out a squad which can move into the mid table and stay there.

Agree with that mate.

Ben91 · Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 9:05 pm

I'd suggest the UEFA Cup is the main thing up for grabs, with Everton the only side at the wrong end of the form table for the respective contending positions.

Manchester United are going to take some catching, for the sheer gap that is there rather than them being particularly formidable. I think it'll be closer than it is currently between them and Chelsea but essentially is a bit too far now with what is potentially a 6 point gap if you count the superior goal difference as a point. Arsenal consider themselves down and out, and United virtually had them at the Emirates so i shouldn't think they'll drop points from that match - neither do i fancy Chelsea to beat them, even at Stamford Bridge.

We're in fine form apart from the United game, and with a 2 point gap, along with Everton seriously dipping in their own form and their hard patch still to come i can't see any way back for them. Mathematically it's possible but everything is pointing in the wrong direction for our Merseyside friends i feel... Fourth place was as good as cemented following our derby win.

Everton's poor form roll's into the battle for the UEFA Cup. Portsmouth are the only side who can catch them, being 4 points away having played the same games, and boast a slightly kinder run-in. I'd expect a lot of their focus to be occupied by the FA Cup Final however, and you'd think Everton could see fifth place out - i don't think it's done and dusted by any means though. It just depends whether Pompey are going to go for it.

Then relegation for me is over. Birmingham and Reading are catchable if it weren't for Bolton's shocking form - had they gotten something against Arsenal i could perhaps see it but that would've been a further demoralising blow and i don't think they have what it takes to conjure 8 or so points to survive, the minimum i think they need.

The other thing as Monty said is the Intertoto Cup, which for me is Portsmouth's to lose. City are shocking, but Villa, whose been no different of late, have perhaps turned a corner today and still could get there. Blackburn have an outside chance. This is very open i'd reckon, but again, like fourth place, a lot is down to Portsmouth.

And finally both Chelsea and Arsenal have 2nd place to fight for - the final automatic Champions League qualification spot, which is quite valuable in reality. It means you don't have to bother with qualifying games and end up a game behind for the first four months (or if you're unlucky, first seven). This is as open as anything.

There's still a lot to play for, but most entail that of long-shots.

Pommie#7 · Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 4:56 am

I'd like to see Chelsea win the title, they could, IF, Man U lost say, 2 games we could be even on points, that is if Chelsea could win 2. But it's not happening

Flipper · Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 6:41 am

LeEoNaLdO wrote:

Personally I would like to see Bolton stay up.

nah.. lee.. the trotters is an awful team.. they don't have the spirit to try winning matches and secure their position.. they deserve being relegated to learn better for the upcoming seasons if they return again..

i'd like to see reading stay in the epl anyway.. been following them lately.. and their next match's against fulham.. which i expect to see a huge win.. while wishing Tottenham to beat boro as well.. because for the next three matches would be tough..

reading - fulham
Arsenal - reading
wigan - reading
reading - Tottenham
derby - reading

floody · Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 10:25 am

Three points against Fulham is a must, other wise we are deeply back in the thick of it. Can't see us getting anything at the Emirates and although I'd like to think we could get at least a point at Wigan given the way our away form has been this season and taken into account their recent survival i really do doubt it. Spurs will be an interesting game but i am hoping dearly we might be safe to that point and i also really hope we won't go to Derby on the last day needing something, as they will be keen to go out with a bang I'm sure.

Flipper · Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 4:48 pm

yeah.. it's a must win against fulham.. although you might be able to nip a point both at Arsenal and Tottenham.. considering Gunners can be playing weird sometimes and it's a home match against Tottenham.. as for wigan.. haven't seen them play much.. just know that kirkland isn't easy to beat.. while derby can be tough like we only managed to score one against them in the lastest match..

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