Which team is the Arsenal of Serie A (beautiful football but without silverware)? I think it's probably between Fiorentina & Roma as the best they have achieved lately is perhaps a league cup or reaching a final, nonetheless they both play beautiful and fast paced football.

If Roma won't win the Scudetto this year I think we can be considered as the Italian Arsenal sadly

If Roma are the Arsenal of Seria A then the Italian League is in more trouble than I thought!

why?

Because Roma are pish maybe....

They aren't. They are good. They are pish without Totti though.

Yeah but soon Totti is going to retire. They need a new head inspirational figure to replace him.

Some think its De Rossi.

I see... someone (not specifically you, shaggy) has not seen much of Roma probably, I could have said the same about Man U basing just upon the 4 matches we played this year (the only ones I've seen of them), but I think they're better than that after all

And some not

I am guessing you're not one of those people

I'm a fan, but i'm also not one of those people.

No I really can't stand the guy. Ok he's a good player a bit overrated maybe but I wouldn't give him many responasbilities to be honest, I don't see him as a leader

De Rossi has the qualifications to become a captain, after all he did receive a red card in an important match for Italy in the world cup 2006 - just like Beckham & Ronaldo (Ronaldo giving Rooney a red card this time)

Don't be an idiot.

Ronaldo didn't give anyone a red card. Ronaldo didn't foul Carvalho did he? No, well at least i don't remember him shoving his foot in his nuts.

So what did Ronaldo do? Oh yeah, he complained to the ref... because that's not common in football...

See the Everton game against Liverpool? 18 of them complained to the ref. What does that make them?

There are many bad guys in this world