Why would would either of us pretend to be the other. It really is quite a pathetic comment colin. There are forum rules about it and im sure that if indeed that was the case then the moderators would have noticed. But let me guess youre working on a level higher than them so thats why you have spotted it and they havent.

My aim is to provide a fun, structured and safe environment where children can play football with their peers regardless of ability levels. My job is to try and encourage the children to be the best that they can be and become well rounded sportsmen and women in the process understanding the concept of team sports. My remit does not involve trying to produce the next premiership star or England international. If that happens along the way then im happy to have played my part. Given the fact that i coach a range of sports and am employed by local authorities and eduational establishments as well as running my own courses and i dont advertise and have been running a business for 10 years - i may be wrong here colin, but i have a sneaky feeling that 1 or 2 people might just be very happy with the way i do things.

The thing here colin is my way works well for me. It may not suit others like yourself but such is life. I am not here criticizing or insulting other people because they have a different view to mine. You dont even know how i do things yet you claim i dont know what im doing. Because i dont join in or agree with youre wholesale criticism of the FA you suggest maybe thats because i run courses for them. No one here knows how you do things as all you say is that you run things "the opposite way to the FA"

Scrutiny is fine as long as its fair and backed up with evidence. 92 league managers, 92 different minds focussing on the same goal - to win a game. Sometimes games are won with attractive football and sometimes with are more direct style. The results are the same its just a matter of choice how you get there. This is often dictated by other factors like resources of the club, stlye of the manager, ability of the players.

Strass/Ian
I notice you didn,t/couldn,t give one answer about playing vision

Too often coaches hide behind the "fun" answer.Why can,t good coaching be fun!!
Is it fun standing in line waiting for a turn!!
You pontificate on here about working for local authorities as though sport is being well catered for by local authorities
Sport in England is in a mess
Course you,ll stick up for the status quo cos your making money out of it I dont blame you
But dont try and stick up for it
Sorry Strass you need to to take a good hard look from outside the box
I,m now expecting an answer from Ian

"Is it fun standing in line waiting for a turn!!"

That dosnt happen when we SFA coachs coach children/adults.

gman
My favourite players were Dennis Law,Kenny Dalglish,Jimmy Johnstone,Jim Baxter,John White Alan Gilzean,Charlie Cooke
Can you honestly say that the present crop of players that your system has produced are as good???

Colin

I like me. I like my life and consider myself a resonable human being. If like you i was that disenchanted with the system i would go all out to do something about it. Being on a forum and miserabley suggesting that anything to do with the FA is a sin is not changing anything. Glorifying your apparent coaching methods - which you have given no evidence of - as being better than anything out there is also serving no real purpose.

Go and get a job in your much despised FA. Convince them that you have this world class system of coaching that will produce future tournament winners and start to make a difference from the top down. Whilst your at it why dont you go and give Fabio Cappello some hints and tips on how he should coach the senior squad as im sure a man like you will have devised a better system for them too or is that too late because those players are already products of a failing system.

Its very easy to put people and systems down. Anyone can do that. Its much harder to find solutions, develop them and implement them into workable schemes. If you dont fancy working for the devil incarnate FA why dont you commission a study or do it yourself as to why the current system fails so badly with very real and workable suggestions and models and publish it. That way everyone will be able to take stock of their failings and do something about it. Your system might even be credited with the next generation of stars that represent England and may even win a tournament.

Im not mickey taking here. Im saying do something that will make a difference instead of constantly moaning about it. Making a difference just to those you coach is not going to change a failing system. Get yourself into a position where you can make the most difference or just shut up moaning.

At last Strass you,re getting on my wave length
More importantly if by me questioning the failing system and maybe getting you to even consider taking on board some of these things that are self evident and then you coach with more realism and your kids become even better then we make a start.
I,ll recommend a training programme for you later!!!

Our system is about encouraging football for men/ women/ children. To help coachs do coaching badges any many more things.

These players are not form the sfa "system" they are from other teams "systems" so not sure what your gibbering about sorry.

Plus the scottish coaching structure is one of the best in the world. Fact not fiction. My point by saying that is we find good coachs. Thats why people like Alan Shearer came to do his coaching here in Scotland. Is why we have many top scottish managers compared to english managers.

so G man
your saying that the coaches the SFA train do not have anything to do with the kids that eventually go on to play at pro level.So in Scotland at 5/ 6/7/8/yrs old they are in at pro clubs.AND at the pro clubs those coaches have Not come through the SFA system.
Who trains those coaches then!!!
The Scots system does have a better reputation but that doesn,t mean anything. Third Lanark are better than Greenock but they are still crap!!

Third Lanark dont exist.

Depends on where the coach is from, but yes valid point

G man
I,m not being sarcastic or funny here but I never realised Third Lanark never existed.in the 50,s and 60,s some good players came out of there.What happened to them please third lanark that is

They went out of business in 1967. Declared bankrupt and dissolved.

I'm afraid myself and Strass have got caught in an argument with a pair of kids.
According to gman, everything he does is mint and scottish coaching cannot be bettered - yet there's little to show for it.
Colin is disgusted with every form of coaching, sees no light in the FA and criticise other people's efforts, yet says nothing about his own perseved qualities.

Strass works hard at what he does. He doesn't have to explain himself to any junior. I work hard in what I do(2 teams, 1 saturday morning club), and am sick of justifying it.

Both our sets of kids come to play to learn, to have fun, to develop. Sorry I don't have a 10-year plan or anything, it's not in my makeup to do that.
Tell me when you have achieved something.

Little to show for it just top quality scottish coachs right now in the premier league? Many english are there? Sorry your wrong on this.

And mint? No we are more than fresh

And never once say scottish coaching cant be bettered i just stated alot of coachs recommend our coaching structure.

Little to show for it just top quality scottish coachs right now in the premier league? Many english are there?

Please expand on this.

Coaching is not an exact science. There is no mathematical formula that results in a right and wrong. Some of us on here have offered advice and insights which some may have found helpful and useful. At no point did some of us suggest that our oppinions were the definitive article. However, others spent their time be-littling others and tearing strips of a system that we all know has its faults for a number of reasons - yet in doing so offered no solutions or insights as to a remedy. Infact some comments amounted to nothing more than self glorifying ideals with very little substance. It would be easy for me to say that i have a better coaching system than anyone else and then not provide any evidence to back up such a claim.

In truth coaching allows for many different styles and interpretations. It would be foolish for me to dismiss other methods out of hand as despite coaching for 12 years im still learning and want to continue doing so. New situations bring new challenges and a quality of a good coach is being able to adapt to prevailing conditions of which there are many.

Success is relative. If you go through your career breaking records for this and that but yet dont have a winners medal have you failed? Are you happy with your team always being the also rans that played the more attractive football or the team that wins employing the less easy on the eye style. Does a good coach become a bad coach because he gets relegated with a team. Does a bad coach become a good coach because he gets promotion with a team. Ofcourse not in either case hes simply doing someting wrong or something right. There are a host of influencing factors such as the level, player ability, player fitness as in key players being injury free, strength of squad and finance of club.

Football is an intriguing sport as its one that lends itself to a multitude of stlyes, approaches, ideas, oppinions, tactics etc. But for me above all its a sport where the best team (on paper at least) does not always win.

Anyone who believes they cant possibly learn anything else from anyone else might as well die now.

Moyes. Wonderful. A great point you make. Can't wait for the next one.

Sir Alex


Was away to say Davies but he has gone.

Your top 8 teams in the league. None are english. Pretty sad for your own league. You have harry redknapp in 9th but what has he done?

I think you are really missing the a massive point G. Football has exploded on a global scale and the premiere league is reflective of that with some of the best players in world football plying their trade in it. Therefore it stands to reason that world renowned managers are going to be charged with manging those big clubs with big players. Football has eras and we are now in the 1 which allows for a host of foreign managers managing clubs with a host of foreign players. Thats what makes the premier league the product it is. If the spl delivered the same product as epl do you honestly think that you would have a host of scottish managers in charge of scottish top flight teams? I doubt it very much. Certain managers will attract certain players and that significantly influences clubs in their selection of managers.

SPL wont be like the EPL so why bother saying something like that.
And thank god our league aint like that.

Fergurson coaching a long time before coaching badges became so important. Just under half of Prem managers are English.
And yes, thank god the SPL isn't as good as the Premiership. Imagine the embarrassment of 4 scottish teams at any stage in the Champions League, never mind the quarters.

Good english managers in last 10 year that has won something big?

Even Dalgleish, George Graham won something.

Good english managers in last 10 year that has won something big?

Even Dalgleish, George Graham won something.

For the record, why does a good/successful manager mean they are a good coach? It's a completely different job.