Nah I wasn't talking about missed chances, just a fabulous sweeping move turning defence into attack.

What are you on about? Where have i laid blame on Mourinho?

Terry's 100% culpible for his actions but Mourinho moulded him that way - therefore the point stands that he'd have my side acting in a similar way if he was in charge. If Terry's stupid enough to act like he does then that is indeed his problem, but that's irrelevant to what i said about Mourinho.

I dunno you know, Terry has always 'had it in him'.
What with p*ssing up against bars, and getting off his trolley with Jody Morris & Co abusing grounded American tourists watching the events of 9/11 unfold in a hotel reception near Heathrow - he's always been 'the finished article' in that sense, never mind any guidance by the special one.

I'm annoyed because I had a big reply typed out to Ben's comments but my PC crashed. Luckily, you sum it up very well there Sparkster so no need! At least you're very aware of the type of guy John Terry is and was, prior to Mourinho.

On a different note, one thing that really annoys me is the media reaction to the game. Virtually every paper I've read has given Man Utd's manager and players higher ratings than Chelsea. For what? The thickness of a post? Because if JT scored that penalty do you think the papers would have still rated Man Utd better? Rubbish!! For my money, there wasn't anything in it. It was a thoroughly absorbing game, one that could have gone either way. Man Utd nearly blew Chelsea off the park in the first half then Chelsea stormed back and bossed the second half and looked more likely to score a winner. It was a toss of a coin job.

Well Ben was being serious anyway so my point wasn't wasted!

i see the jokes have not been posted here yet!

What's the difference between a choclate orange and the european cup? The european cup isn't Terry's.

Terry Vodka; made in London, bottled in Moscow.

yes absolutely what i was thinking when reading the papers ......the papers are making out this Man Utd team thoroughly deserved the win ...Ronaldo finally did it on the biggest stage of alll .....what a great tribute to the Busby Babes .....blah blah ..

The fact is Man Utd were extremely lucky to win .....Chelsea were extremely unlucky to lose .....you just could not choose between them . The penalty shootout is always a lottery ....Man Utd just held their nerve better and Chelsea had one of those horror moments when John Terry slipped ...

If John Terry had scored ...Chelsea would have been getting the full on press acclaim and Man Utd would have been accused of blowing it ...Ronaldo probably bearing the brunt for his miss .

Terry says sorry OMG what an assclown, this is sad IMO, cringeworthy.

Chelsea deserved to win it was never a sending off and Anelka is the biggest sulker in the world

The sending off made no difference and EVERYONE in football knows that if you raise your hands to someone you are off.

It made A LOT of difference, it meant Terry had to take that penalty instead of Drogba. Who do you trust more? The top goal scorer or a footballingly challenged brute of a center half?

Penalties are completely based on luck, the team with the best penalty takers doesn't neccesarily or even usually win, it's a lottery, the cliche is right.

Had Drogba not been sending off we would effectively have had another lottery from the beginning rather than saying everything would have been the same up until the fifth penalty where Drogba would have scored.

Moreover Drogba is actually not a very good penalty taker, he doesn't take them normally and missed in the ACON when it mattered.

i disagree its completely based on luck.

its about composure, skill, accuracy and bottle

So its luck that Terry hit the post instead of 4 inches to the left? He bottled it plain and simple, nothing to do with luck when you dont even get the shot on target.

Drogba IMO would have scored it, ofcourse he might have missed but he would have had a lot better chance than Terry at getting it simply because hes taken penalties before and is a natural goalscorer.





ps. Heard a new song to sing to Terry next season.

You let Pat Lampard down
You let Pat Lampard down
You let Pat Lampard down
Terry!
You let Pat Lampard down
You let Pat Lampard down
You let Pat Lampard down
Terry!

They just keep coming!

Was a poor final.

First half was alrite. Second half was poor. Penalties to see who are champions of europe.

I thought boith halves were great, some good football and it had everything.

It was an alright Final, wasnt as boring as some finals are, but granted wasnt the best final. Some of the football was a bit scrappy but i enjoyed it there were alot of chances just not taken especially from CArlos Tevez who should of had at least 2.

Just whinging constantly. Some players got away with murder. Spitting terry got away with? N children look up to players like him. Then Drogba being a we slapper.

Shocking for a cup final for these events to happen.