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Who can be UEFA Champions
Chelsea
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Manchester United
37%
 37%  [ 15 ]
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Most likely.

I just meant that in terms of who has the most quality in their goalscoring ability to break down a tight Defence then it's Man Utd. Although somebody like Drogba can prove fatal given one half-chance out of nothing. Then if you look at it from the angle that there'll be slim chances and shots on goal then you have to consider the quality of the Goalkeepers and I think Cech is the more likely hero.

Either way it'll be interesting. I'll be secretly cheering on Chelsea for once, but I do think Man Utd will win it. Sad

 
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nothing ferguson can say will get to Grant or his players.

in fact i would be amazed if anything ferguson ever says gets listened to by any of his rivals. he is a well known bullsh*tter. he talks things up to get the media onside with the dicklicking he recieves and when they dare go against him he avoids them (BBC).

it will come down to 90 mins (or 120) of football. on the pitch is where it matters and that is where all Chelsea's efforts will be.

i can see a 1-0 win for Chelsea.


Joe Cole doing his bit to crank up the 'psychological' warfare. He should know better than to throw down the gauntlet to opposition players to prove themselves. Look at Benitez and Drogba.

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Messi better than Ronaldo - Cole

Chelsea's Joe Cole says Barcelona's Lionel Messi is ahead of Manchester United star Cristiano Ronaldo as the best player in the world. Cole said Messi's form in Barca's Champions League semi-final defeat by United settled the debate.

"Ronaldo's been fantastic but in the semi-final Messi showed he's the top man," said Cole, who will face Ronaldo in next week's Champions League final. "He is only 20 as well, imagine how good he will be in the next 10 years." Messi has been linked with a £80m move to Chelsea, and Cole admitted he would be delighted if the speculation proved to be true.

"If we could sign him, I'd love to play alongside him," he added. Cole's comments will help to crank up the atmosphere ahead of Wednesday's final between United and Chelsea in Moscow.

source: BBC website



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nothing ferguson can say will get to Grant or his players.

in fact i would be amazed if anything ferguson ever says gets listened to by any of his rivals. he is a well known bullsh*tter. he talks things up to get the media onside with the dicklicking he recieves and when they dare go against him he avoids them (BBC).

it will come down to 90 mins (or 120) of football. on the pitch is where it matters and that is where all Chelsea's efforts will be.

i can see a 1-0 win for Chelsea.


So much for your hero Grant not being a MOANER Laughing

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Avram Grant blows whistle on referees

Avram Grant has accused some English match officials of buckling under the influence of Manchester United and admitted that he is pleased a foreign referee will take charge of next week's Champions League final.

In remarks that will be carefully studied by the Football Association, Grant also questioned the impartiality of referee Steve Bennett during United's 2-0 victory against Wigan on Sunday that clinched the Premier League title.


Raising tensions: Avram Grant has started the mind games
"I looked at the game," said Grant. "He [the referee] was, as expected, good for one team. I told you that I believed in the tradition of the fair English game. I will not say anything against it. But what happened is what I expected.

"In England there are very good referees, but there are some - a few that you can influence, like you saw."

Grant faces the possibility of disciplinary action for his comments but will first receive a letter from the FA requesting an explanation. The Chelsea manager, though, is unlikely to back down from his concerns. He believes that some players and managers try to influence referees as a deliberate tactic.

Grant, who supports the proposal that only captains should speak to the officials during matches, also previously said that John-Obi Mikel's sending-off against United last September was "the decision not only of the referee".

He is also adamant that Mike Dean, the referee for that game, cost Chelsea a match that ultimately proved decisive in the title race.

"I think in our game against Manchester United at Old Trafford, the referee changed the result for sure," he said. "We know that. I think the red card for Mikel in that game should not have been a red card, I think that Scholes should have had a red card on Sunday and Wigan a penalty also.

"I do not think the world is against Chelsea, or English football. But in this case there were some coincidences, for Manchester United. But again I congratulate them."

Sir Alex Ferguson will get the chance to answer Grant's observations today, but the Israeli's comments are sure to raise tensions and can be interpreted as the beginning of the mind games between the two managers ahead of next Wednesday.

source: telegraph website

 
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Sir Alex Ferguson has a selection dilemma ahead of the Champions League Final with 26 fully fit first team players. Who is he going to disappoint?


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Sir Alex Ferguson is facing up to the biggest selection headache of his managerial career as he attempts to pick a squad for Manchester United's Champions League final against Chelsea. The United boss has no injury or suspension worries ahead of the Moscow clash a week on Wednesday and is delighted to have 26 players to choose from. But with Ferguson able to name only seven substitutes for the match, he must tell eight of his stars they will play no part in the club's biggest game for nine years.

"I think picking the team will be easier than picking the substitutes," he said on Sky Sports News.

"I'm going to have to leave some fantastic players out of the squad completely next week, which I won't enjoy doing.

"It's got to be done and I don't know when I'm going to pick that moment.

Source: Independent


This is who I would choose:

1. Van der Sar
2. Evra
3. Brown
4. Ferdinand
5. Vidic
6. Carrick
7. Scholes
8. Ronaldo
9. Nani
10. Tevez
11. Rooney
12. Hargreaves
13. Anderson
14. Giggs
15. O'Shea
16. Park
17. Fletcher
18. Kuszczak
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Left out of the squad
19. Neville
20. Sivestre
21. Saha
22. Pique
23. Eagles
24. Dong
25. Welbeck
26. Foster

I believe SAF has enough flexibility in the squad to cover full back positions through Hargreaves and O'Shea, and centre back positions with Brown and O'Shea. Neville and Silvestre are not match fit and Pique isn't good enough. Saha is the only doubt I have in the 8 left out, but he has played little part in the season so far.

What do you think???

 
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I really hope its a good Final and gives the Premiership a decent account of itself.

I don't particularly mind who wins, I guess I'd like to see Chelsea do it what with it being their first Final and United having won the domestic league.




 
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Steely Hill wrote:
nothing ferguson can say will get to Grant or his players.

in fact i would be amazed if anything ferguson ever says gets listened to by any of his rivals. he is a well known bullsh*tter. he talks things up to get the media onside with the dicklicking he recieves and when they dare go against him he avoids them (BBC).

it will come down to 90 mins (or 120) of football. on the pitch is where it matters and that is where all Chelsea's efforts will be.

i can see a 1-0 win for Chelsea.


So much for your hero Grant not being a MOANER Laughing

wrote:
Avram Grant blows whistle on referees

Avram Grant has accused some English match officials of buckling under the influence of Manchester United and admitted that he is pleased a foreign referee will take charge of next week's Champions League final.

In remarks that will be carefully studied by the Football Association, Grant also questioned the impartiality of referee Steve Bennett during United's 2-0 victory against Wigan on Sunday that clinched the Premier League title.


Raising tensions: Avram Grant has started the mind games
"I looked at the game," said Grant. "He [the referee] was, as expected, good for one team. I told you that I believed in the tradition of the fair English game. I will not say anything against it. But what happened is what I expected.

"In England there are very good referees, but there are some - a few that you can influence, like you saw."

Grant faces the possibility of disciplinary action for his comments but will first receive a letter from the FA requesting an explanation. The Chelsea manager, though, is unlikely to back down from his concerns. He believes that some players and managers try to influence referees as a deliberate tactic.

Grant, who supports the proposal that only captains should speak to the officials during matches, also previously said that John-Obi Mikel's sending-off against United last September was "the decision not only of the referee".

He is also adamant that Mike Dean, the referee for that game, cost Chelsea a match that ultimately proved decisive in the title race.

"I think in our game against Manchester United at Old Trafford, the referee changed the result for sure," he said. "We know that. I think the red card for Mikel in that game should not have been a red card, I think that Scholes should have had a red card on Sunday and Wigan a penalty also.

"I do not think the world is against Chelsea, or English football. But in this case there were some coincidences, for Manchester United. But again I congratulate them."

Sir Alex Ferguson will get the chance to answer Grant's observations today, but the Israeli's comments are sure to raise tensions and can be interpreted as the beginning of the mind games between the two managers ahead of next Wednesday.

source: telegraph website


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let the war begin

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I had a thought today. I generally don't think this match will goto the penalties TBH.

But if it does goes to the penalties which Keeper do you guys think will come out the better one(Or probably a hero to win it singlehandedly) with one or more brilliant penalty saves???

Cech will be the one I'd bet on... What about you guys???

 
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I had a thought today. I generally don't think this match will goto the penalties TBH.

But if it does goes to the penalties which Keeper do you guys think will come out the better one(Or probably a hero to win it singlehandedly) with one or more brilliant penalty saves???

Cech will be the one I'd bet on... What about you guys???


err.. are you sure.. barry?.. because early in this season when we played against them in the charity shield which ended up with penalties.. we managed to come up as a winner.. Razz

 
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One thing i noticed about the Champions League final this year is there is not alot of talk about before it actual happens. Very quiet

 
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Hard to choose one or the other really.

Both finished the domestic season very strong and both have been good in Europe throughout, but i've always said whatever team knocks mine out of the Cup i support them after but the sheer fact its Chelsea i don't think i will do. I don't want United to win either so to me it don't matter either way.

On paper and mentally i think Chelsea have a bit more and after their league win a few weeks ago against United i think they are slight favourites.

 
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I had a thought today. I generally don't think this match will goto the penalties TBH.

But if it does goes to the penalties which Keeper do you guys think will come out the better one(Or probably a hero to win it singlehandedly) with one or more brilliant penalty saves???

Cech will be the one I'd bet on... What about you guys???


I so hope it does go to penalties.

a) Because it'll make losing all the more emotional, and you're GUARENTEED to see one side burst into tears, preferrably people like Rooney, Ronaldo, Ferdinand, Terry, Lampard, Drogba respectively.

b) And because everyone goes on about how Liverpool can only win games on penalties. Would be nice to return United fans that sentiment.

...

Ah, i just want a masacre.

Football masacre, of course.

One side to destroy the other.

And leave their players on the brink of breaking down.

I'm not bitter.

 
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Sir Alex Ferguson has a selection dilemma ahead of the Champions League Final with 26 fully fit first team players. Who is he going to disappoint?


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Sir Alex Ferguson is facing up to the biggest selection headache of his managerial career as he attempts to pick a squad for Manchester United's Champions League final against Chelsea. The United boss has no injury or suspension worries ahead of the Moscow clash a week on Wednesday and is delighted to have 26 players to choose from. But with Ferguson able to name only seven substitutes for the match, he must tell eight of his stars they will play no part in the club's biggest game for nine years.

"I think picking the team will be easier than picking the substitutes," he said on Sky Sports News.

"I'm going to have to leave some fantastic players out of the squad completely next week, which I won't enjoy doing.

"It's got to be done and I don't know when I'm going to pick that moment.

Source: Independent


This is who I would choose:

1. Van der Sar
2. Evra
3. Brown
4. Ferdinand
5. Vidic
6. Carrick
7. Scholes
8. Ronaldo
9. Nani
10. Tevez
11. Rooney
12. Hargreaves
13. Anderson
14. Giggs
15. O'Shea
16. Park
17. Fletcher
18. Kuszczak
-------------------------

Left out of the squad
19. Neville
20. Sivestre
21. Saha
22. Pique
23. Eagles
24. Dong
25. Welbeck
26. Foster

I believe SAF has enough flexibility in the squad to cover full back positions through Hargreaves and O'Shea, and centre back positions with Brown and O'Shea. Neville and Silvestre are not match fit and Pique isn't good enough. Saha is the only doubt I have in the 8 left out, but he has played little part in the season so far.

What do you think???


I would replace one of the many midfielders you have with Saha,He's been out a while,but nobody can question his ability.He's good in the air and he doesn't think twice about setting his teammates up.He's proven with the anemic supporting cast at fulham that he can score against top level teams on his own.

 
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Roonanialdo wrote:
Sir Alex Ferguson has a selection dilemma ahead of the Champions League Final with 26 fully fit first team players. Who is he going to disappoint?


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Sir Alex Ferguson is facing up to the biggest selection headache of his managerial career as he attempts to pick a squad for Manchester United's Champions League final against Chelsea. The United boss has no injury or suspension worries ahead of the Moscow clash a week on Wednesday and is delighted to have 26 players to choose from. But with Ferguson able to name only seven substitutes for the match, he must tell eight of his stars they will play no part in the club's biggest game for nine years.

"I think picking the team will be easier than picking the substitutes," he said on Sky Sports News.

"I'm going to have to leave some fantastic players out of the squad completely next week, which I won't enjoy doing.

"It's got to be done and I don't know when I'm going to pick that moment.

Source: Independent


This is who I would choose:

1. Van der Sar
2. Evra
3. Brown
4. Ferdinand
5. Vidic
6. Carrick
7. Scholes
8. Ronaldo
9. Nani
10. Tevez
11. Rooney
12. Hargreaves
13. Anderson
14. Giggs
15. O'Shea
16. Park
17. Fletcher
18. Kuszczak
-------------------------

Left out of the squad
19. Neville
20. Sivestre
21. Saha
22. Pique
23. Eagles
24. Dong
25. Welbeck
26. Foster

I believe SAF has enough flexibility in the squad to cover full back positions through Hargreaves and O'Shea, and centre back positions with Brown and O'Shea. Neville and Silvestre are not match fit and Pique isn't good enough. Saha is the only doubt I have in the 8 left out, but he has played little part in the season so far.

What do you think???


I would replace one of the many midfielders you have with Saha,He's been out a while,but nobody can question his ability.He's good in the air and he doesn't think twice about setting his teammates up.He's proven with the anemic supporting cast at fulham that he can score against top level teams on his own.


I agree, but I coudn't decide who to leave out because all of the midfielders I have included have contributed more to the squad this season than Saha, and it seemed unfair to omit one of them in preference to Saha, but if I had to choose, it would be Fletcher left out.

 
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ImmortaL wrote:
I had a thought today. I generally don't think this match will goto the penalties TBH.

But if it does goes to the penalties which Keeper do you guys think will come out the better one(Or probably a hero to win it singlehandedly) with one or more brilliant penalty saves???

Cech will be the one I'd bet on... What about you guys???


err.. are you sure.. barry?.. because early in this season when we played against them in the charity shield which ended up with penalties.. we managed to come up as a winner.. Razz


Again. Its my opinion Jenny dear. It doesn't matter what happened before. What matters is what is going to happen and my mind says that Chelsea will most probably win it in 90 mins. But if in some bizzare circumstances, the game goes to the penalties, its upto the players who take the penalties to do a better job. But my opinion is that Cech will do a better job than VDS and also the Free-kick takers... Very Happy

I know your opinion and you know mine now... Its not based on previous results, but simply my hunch and hope... Smile

 
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Will Eric Cantona be at the final ?

 
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its a pleasure to see West Ham having such a large part to play in this tie. as usual with huge footballing events for the English it seems West Ham and our Academy are at the very core of it all.

Joe Cole, Frank Lampard, John Terry, Rio Ferdinand and Michael Carrick all came through the West Ham academy although Terry was only there for around 4 years.

whatever happens its a good result for Tony Carr the West Ham Academy Coach who continues his fantastic work to this day.

 
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specnur wrote:
Roonanialdo wrote:
Sir Alex Ferguson has a selection dilemma ahead of the Champions League Final with 26 fully fit first team players. Who is he going to disappoint?


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Sir Alex Ferguson is facing up to the biggest selection headache of his managerial career as he attempts to pick a squad for Manchester United's Champions League final against Chelsea. The United boss has no injury or suspension worries ahead of the Moscow clash a week on Wednesday and is delighted to have 26 players to choose from. But with Ferguson able to name only seven substitutes for the match, he must tell eight of his stars they will play no part in the club's biggest game for nine years.

"I think picking the team will be easier than picking the substitutes," he said on Sky Sports News.

"I'm going to have to leave some fantastic players out of the squad completely next week, which I won't enjoy doing.

"It's got to be done and I don't know when I'm going to pick that moment.

Source: Independent


This is who I would choose:

1. Van der Sar
2. Evra
3. Brown
4. Ferdinand
5. Vidic
6. Carrick
7. Scholes
8. Ronaldo
9. Nani
10. Tevez
11. Rooney
12. Hargreaves
13. Anderson
14. Giggs
15. O'Shea
16. Park
17. Fletcher
18. Kuszczak
-------------------------

Left out of the squad
19. Neville
20. Sivestre
21. Saha
22. Pique
23. Eagles
24. Dong
25. Welbeck
26. Foster

I believe SAF has enough flexibility in the squad to cover full back positions through Hargreaves and O'Shea, and centre back positions with Brown and O'Shea. Neville and Silvestre are not match fit and Pique isn't good enough. Saha is the only doubt I have in the 8 left out, but he has played little part in the season so far.

What do you think???


I would replace one of the many midfielders you have with Saha,He's been out a while,but nobody can question his ability.He's good in the air and he doesn't think twice about setting his teammates up.He's proven with the anemic supporting cast at fulham that he can score against top level teams on his own.


I agree, but I coudn't decide who to leave out because all of the midfielders I have included have contributed more to the squad this season than Saha, and it seemed unfair to omit one of them in preference to Saha, but if I had to choose, it would be Fletcher left out.


No room for sentiment for this clash ,regardless o what they have done during the season you have to bring out the big guns.If saha is fit Ferguson may as well kiss saha goodbye during the off season,because that would insulting with his track record.When he's fit he's united's best front man without question,in fact he's United's only front man.

 
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I dont seem to interested in the cup final this year. And i have no idea why.

But i would like Man United to win

 
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Laughing Makelele just went in for a 2 footed lunge on Ashley Cole whilst they were having their training session on the Luzhniki pitch. Cole has had to have his ankle bandaged up to prevent swelling, it could have been a red card in an actual match.

Hilarious that it's happened to Cashley.

 
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I predict that an English club will win the CL this season. Smile

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