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Blatter: English dominance shows quota is needed

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FIFA president Sepp Blatter has claimed the dominance of English clubs in the Champions League proves a quota system to limit the number of foreign players is needed.

For the last two seasons, there have been three English Premier League sides in the last four of Europe's elite club competition and Blatter fears a monopolisation of football, with the richest clubs buying up the best players from all over the world at the expense of domestic talent.

He is to seek a mandate from the FIFA Congress later this month to begin talks with the European Union and football's authorities over implementing a 'six-plus-five', rule where a maximum of five players in a starting XI can be foreign.

FIFA will also look to extend the residency period to five years before a player can represent another country - in some countries the period is currently as short as two years.

Blatter told a conference call on Wednesday: "Shall we let the rich become richer and say nothing?

"The big money is coming out of the Champions League - it's the biggest league in the world and practically 80% of the income goes to the directly to the 32 participating clubs.

"This season, there were four English teams in the last eight, three in the semi-finals and two in the final.

"The Champions League has been very successful financially but it has also favoured national inequality. That's why, being in charge of football, I have to bring this item to the attention of the Congress.

"This is the sporting situation but let us start with our idea of the six-plus-five rule and then we will see what the difference will be in the future.

"This rule will be fighting against the monopolies of clubs and leagues.

"But we are not fighting the problem of money but for the identity of national teams."

Blatter claimed his plan for the six-plus-five rule would not contravene EU labour law because it did not limit the number of foreign players a club could take on - just the number that start a match. Both the EU and UEFA dispute that however.

The FIFA president said he would aim to have a minimum of four domestic players by 2010, five by 2011 and up to six in 2012.

In terms of the residency period, Blatter has become alarmed by the number of players - especially from Brazil - taking on foreign citizenship and then appearing for their new countries.

Arsenal striker Eduardo, who plays for Croatia, is one example.

Blatter added: "After only a two-year period, a player can receive nationality from another country and there is a danger that in 2014 half the players in the World Cup could come from Brazil!

"That's why the executive committee will propose to the Congress that only after five years being resident that a player can become a 'football citizen'."

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i agree unless a player or his immediate family is born in their respective countries then players should not be aloud to gain citizenship therfore enabling them to play for that country....

also every premier league team should be limited to 8 foreign players...

but the down side is i think it would affect the premier league as a whole

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The number of EU players can never be limited because it contradicts the basic terms of EU membership. I know Sepp hates England but he's going to have to grow up and accept it.

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does he insist on this just because english clubs are dominating the cl this season?..

what a ghey idea!..

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I think it's a good idea. I could do with a bit of refining, but something needs to be done.

The money in the premier league has already ruined it for many teams, and as a spectacle for many fans. People have even said the premier league consists of two division - the top 4 being the top division, and the remaining 16 teams completing the second division.

With more and more foreign investors coming over here it looks like there will be little change, and young English players will be given even fewer opportunities.

The Champions League is even suffering from English teams now, with the top 4 doing so well in recent years, the clashes lack the spark of what we used to see - teams who rarely meet, so when they do it's an occasion not to be missed. Liverpool playing Chelsea every season is hardly the most exciting of clashes is it? Fans want to play teams from other nations, teams they don't play twice every season in their domestic league.

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Wenger will surely have a say on this matter, because if it happens then he'll have to rebuild Arsenal from scratch. Only Michael Jordan (GK), Luke Freeman (FW, 16 years) and Walcott (FW) are English

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Yeah Id agree, there has been dominance from different clubs and different leagues in the past but its different in the modern game. In the past, a lot of it was about whoever had the better coaching, manager etc while today its all money. Without it theres basically no chance whatsoever of even challenging for the league. The top four in England will be the same next season and probably the season after again, these clubs take all the Champions League money, sign all the best players and snap up any promising players from smaller clubs before the clubs even given the chance to build up a decent team. Good young English players usually waste away in the reserves before being offloaded to lower league clubs because the easier option for the big clubs is to sign a ready made talent from abroad instead of going through the bother of training up a young player themselves.

Man Utd are the perfect example, compare the past two generations. In the 90's there were countless players coming through the clubs youth academy, you could probably have picked a full starting 11 of homegrown players that could have competed in the Premiership. In this decade, who's come through? Darren Fletcher and John O'Shea are the only two I can think of and theyre hardly regulars. Last Summer Fergie brought in 5 young foreigners for the future pretty much ending any players in the reserves who would have thought they might get a chance once the older players move on. That chance is gone now and will be for years to come.

This new rule wont totally get rid of that but its a good start and if at all possible I hope they introduce it

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Sepp is a dingbat if he thinks he's fooling anyone with that trash.
If you want to see the level of world football diminish in the blink of an eye then enforce that ridiculous rule.It's not about the rich getting richer ,that's just a bullsnot.If that's is the case then you have to exclude Arsenal from the list. Wenger has developed a team from a fraction of the likes of United and Chelsea or Barcelona or real Madrid.How come he didn't raise those questions when Real madrid was spending astronomical amounts of dough. Granted they had numerous local players ,but their payout was ridiculous.In fact Man U do a good job of balancing domestic and foreign talent as i am quite sure that half of United's team are British.I don't hink quotas are good,but the likes of sky sport or setanta and the rest of the flagwaving media would love the idea.

The bottomline is this Wenger has proven that you do not need to spend huge amounts of money to be competetive,so that theory is a crock.what the other teams need to do is up their developement plan and scouting quality.If you want to make it so that some average domestic player get's to play with the best without putting in his shift in terms of upping his ability then the game will suffer in quality make no mistake.

It will come to a point wich is happening already in some teams ,where a foriegn player with better ability and more desire get's less money and less playing time than his domestic teammate.That my friend would
set the game back 30 years. Not only would that be a an affront to those foreign players,but even more so to the likes of players like Rooney who are legitimate quality Domestic players who worked incredibly hard to be where they are.There should be no short cuts to stardom and i think they would be setting a dangerous precedent if they do so.

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The problem is more tha fault of Englands attitude to youth football than the big clubs. I personally don't care which patch of land my players were born on. It's up to the British kids to step up not to expect a free pass.

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Del Piero 10 wrote:
Wenger will surely have a say on this matter, because if it happens then he'll have to rebuild Arsenal from scratch. Only Michael Jordan (GK), Luke Freeman (FW, 16 years) and Walcott (FW) are English


Laughing Laughing

might be relegated as valencia did by chance


aston villa would be the luckiest team for this case.. as most of their players are english ones..

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I agree. Reduce foreigners way forward.

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Go ahead, let it happen and watch the Premier League's overall quality decrease.

As usual the bigger Clubs will sign the better English players (the few that there are) and the lower Clubs will be left with nobodies. Rather than smaller Clubs being able to get cheaper foreign players in with better quality to help boost their quality, finances & chances of winning stuff or staying up/promotion.

No offence to the Brits, but in the likes of Spain and Italy there is more quality & class to go around the different Clubs. Look at the Spain and Italy squads - so many homegrown players in their home Leagues. You could have a few quality First XI International teams from those selections and generally they all play the higher class style of football that helps them compete in the European Cups. Hence teams like Sevilla and Barcelona have been so strong in recent years. Or Real Madrid and AC Milan.

I think it's fine how it is, and that's not just because I'm an Arsenal fan. If such a drastic change came into action, Wenger would work around it. He's capable of doing that and we've got good finances to cover that. It won't happen though.

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Go ahead, let it happen and watch the Premier League's overall quality decrease.

As usual the bigger Clubs will sign the better English players (the few that there are) and the lower Clubs will be left with nobodies. Rather than smaller Clubs being able to get cheaper foreign players in with better quality to help boost their quality, finances & chances of winning stuff or staying up/promotion.

No offence to the Brits, but in the likes of Spain and Italy there is more quality & class to go around the different Clubs. Look at the Spain and Italy squads - so many homegrown players in their home Leagues. You could have a few quality First XI International teams from those selections and generally they all play the higher class style of football that helps them compete in the European Cups. Hence teams like Sevilla and Barcelona have been so strong in recent years. Or Real Madrid and AC Milan.

I think it's fine how it is, and that's not just because I'm an Arsenal fan. If such a drastic change came into action, Wenger would work around it. He's capable of doing that and we've got good finances to cover that. It won't happen though.


Man United doing not bad with english players. They would be fine

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That doesn't really do any damage to what I was saying.

As I said, the top Clubs will spend massive monies on the top English players. Guys like Hargreaves, Rooney and Ferdinand cost top dollar and the lower Clubs would struggle even more if Man Utd were splashing big money on all their best homegrown players, leaving them with even lesser quality English players!

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That doesn't really do any damage to what I was saying.

As I said, the top Clubs will spend massive monies on the top English players. Guys like Hargreaves, Rooney and Ferdinand cost top dollar and the lower Clubs would struggle even more if Man Utd were splashing big money on all their best homegrown players, leaving them with even lesser quality English players!


Up in Scotland we cope well. Uefa cup final Rangers will have at least 9 scottish players playing. Maybe 8

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Yeah, that's nice. But what about the rest of the League? How successful are the rest of the teams? The dominance by those two Glasgow Clubs up there is a perfect example of how sharing more homegrown players doesn't pan out very well for the smaller Clubs.

There are only so many top quality Scottish players who can compete against the best of them, and they can't be shared throughout the entire League. Once a great player comes through the ranks at Hibs, Rangers or Celtic will sign him.

The same will happen in the EPL. If Arsenal have to get rid of some foreigners and bring in more Brits, you'll see some of Villa's best English talent move from there, hence damaging their progress & quality of football as well.

The knock on effect will be just as huge, probably even worse than it is now with the spending power of the top four.

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Yeah, that's nice. But what about the rest of the League? How successful are the rest of the teams? The dominance by those two Glasgow Clubs up there is a perfect example of how sharing more homegrown players doesn't pan out very well for the smaller Clubs.

There are only so many top quality Scottish players who can compete against the best of them, and they can't be shared throughout the entire League. Once a great player comes through the ranks at Hibs, Rangers or Celtic will sign him.

The same will happen in the EPL. If Arsenal have to get rid of some foreigners and bring in more Brits, you'll see some of Villa's best English talent move from there, hence damaging their progress & quality of football as well.

The knock on effect will be just as huge, probably even worse than it is now with the spending power of the top four.


Englands national team could come better. Just like scotlands has with Rangers and Celtic playing them

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FIFA president Sepp Blatter has claimed the dominance of English clubs in the Champions League proves a quota system to limit the number of foreign players is needed.

For the last two seasons, there have been three English Premier League sides in the last four of Europe's elite club competition and Blatter fears a monopolisation of football, with the richest clubs buying up the best players from all over the world at the expense of domestic talent.



I don't think it's the foreign players that made that there were 3 English clubs in the CL semi, it's more that there are 4 english in the CL at the beginning. There was not this problem in the old european cups.

And i think there was a year when there were 3 spanish clubs in a CL semi few years ago.

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So in reality what would happen is that instead of paying 15 mil for the likes of a Carrick,you'll be paying
30 mil instead. Bargain that! Can you imagine what went through the likes of a Essien's or Flamini's mind when he saw Carrick move for 15 mil! No wonder Arsenal couldn't keep Flamini if that's the market value of such a low caliber player.

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It was actually £17m!

Actually, i might've even been £18m!!!

Shocking.

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