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Wenger also needs to tinker with the system and style Arsenal plays. I just think they lack variety and an ability to play ugly to grind out a result. They peg back the opposition and switch from left to right, right to left and look for that killer 1 2 and it becomes predictable in way even if it is great football. An Arsenal midfielder gets the ball just outside the box with room to shot and he passes it instead of having a shot on goal. Wenger has to instill into his players an ability of going direct if that opportunity arises.


I don't believe the style needs to be tinkered with. However, I do believe that some of our midfielders need to take a shot from outside the box more often when given the opportunity instead of looking for that final magical pass. We have seen more success when they took the shot. Earlier in the year, they'd take shots from any place in and around the box if they were given space and we scored goals in bunches. Cesc had a few goals as well in our early season run of form. Then for some reason, we went away from that, and then went back to it towards the end of the campaign.

Taking shots from outside the box does a lot for our style of play. It brings the defenders out, since they need to close down to not allow an outside shot on goal and in turn leaves space behind the defenders for that magic pass from the likes of Cesc or Hleb. Unfortunately, when we went away from that, other teams would just pack the box with 6 or 8 defenders.

This is why I feel that Kranjcar could be a better player at Arsenal than Hleb is. Kranjcar isn't afraid to take a shot on goal when given space; while on the other hand, Hleb won't take a shot on goal unless it's a one on one with the keeper.

 
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I disagree.

There isn't one player in the world that i have seen that can replace Hleb and the things he can do.
Very few player can just fit into Arsenals style of play,it would take knowing the movement of his teammates and the intricacies of their ability.

The way you describe Hleb is as if he has been a world class player for the last 3-4 years. Cant agree with you there. Also there are a number of players that could fit into the Arsenal system. But guess what, you gotta spend money to get em.

Still haven't named them buddy!

"Tinker with Arsenals style"
I don't think so.There is nothing wrong with their style in fact it is the most effective way of breaking any teams in the world.Case in point 1.Undefeated season,2)Champ league final with 10 men.3)2-0 down with 10 men v Bolton won the game 2-3. etc.


What about Arsenal's loss to Middlesborough and 4 consecutive draws when they were leading the league. Where was Arsenal's super human breaking down power there? A team like Arsenal shouldn't have runs like these...


Loosing to middlesborough isn't such a bad thing,did you check boro's form against the other top 4?From what i remember they gave every one of them problems and may have beaten them if i'm not mistaken.
Arsenal loosing and drawing games had nothing to do with their style,but had a lot to do with Depth and fatigue.As i stated before ,the concentration level at the back was very poor especiallly against the "weaker teams".


What they need is consistency at the back nowhere else.If the back 4 are sorted everything else will fall into place with the team having more confidence going forward.No team in the world control and pass the ball as well as Arsenal at such a high percentage each game.There are teams who can link plays together just as well i.e. Barca,real Madrid and Man U ,but none of thsoe teams can do so as consistently as Arsenal each game.It's the hardest style to defend against as it is impossible to know where the ball is going next.The precision of passing and accuracy and speed of pass,the ability to control the ball under extreme pressure is what all those top teams admire and try to emulate.If it were easy everyone would be doing it.

The difference between Arsenal and Manchester United was that Man U were able to change their style according to the opposition. They knew when to play passing football and they knew when it was right and/or neccessary to go the direct route. Arsenal played the same all the time. They were over patient in games against inferior opposition and lacked urgency in games they thought were certain 3 points for em. That's why they need a few players that will have the instinct to adapt to the reality of the ingame situation and be able to provide a plan b option if the game isn't going their way. Arsenal's play is attractive and they are not far off, dont get me wrong, but they just need a killer instinct that the current squad lacks imo.

Killer instinct is something they have to work on i agree,but Arsenals style of football when on form is impossible to defeat i don't care who the opposition is,they have proven it time and time again.Arsenal forced team like Man U to change their game totally to a point where ferguson won't admit it but has nothing but respect for.It's not just pretty football when you are top of the league,when you are beaten Barcelona with 10 men or when you go undefeated a complete season. People always tend to forget these facts when others are winning silverwear . I don't think in the least Wenger is disappointed in the way Arsenal competed this season,and if everyone is completely honest, they overachieved.So all this talk is nothing but garbage,come back next season with the same topic and you may have some justification in your comments otherwise they are out of context with reality of Arsenals development curve.

This season was supposed to be the "improvement" year for Arsenal as well as last year.NO ONE gave them a shot in hell this season and they shocked everyone by leading the table at all ,Wenger needs a lot of credit for that.Next season should be the season when they are expected to win stuff,but the way they are on the verge of loosing these key players that could a fantasy also.
Arsenal's whole season could have been different if Hleb would have gotten that penalty ,that the whole world said should have been awarded.

Who cares about pre-season predictions. Arsenal were 6 points or so in front. Im positive they were extremely confident in the dressing room and all the Arsenal supporters here were certainly confident of league crown. I was certainly sweating when they were in front, they right in the mix. Chelsea were discounted at that stage..lol. Arsenal are in a fantasy world atm. It's always "next year". It always "Young guns are not ready yet". Another season like this one will see Wenger out imo. It might be all back slaps and "good game out there" beers atm, but everyone is expendable and these things can happen very quickly.


My friend,you have a warped sense of reality.The reason why everyone didn't give Arsenal a hope was because they had just lost Henry the main man on the team and a massive void to fill.Anyone with an ounce of sense would tell you that they would need time to develop chemistry after loosing a man who gave them 30 goals and 20 odd assist three years in a row.I am someone who believes in Arsenals ability a great deal ,but even i thought they would have a rough time this season.All be it because of the way the officials let teams get away with kicking them off the park.Arsenal made that adjustment ,big time and fought fire with fire forcing the officials to change the rules again with their '"No studs tackles".They never brouyght that up when sunderland broke diaby's leg in a game of no significance.Wenger out ha! you wish.


 
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Fixed your post Specnur Wink

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