they are completely different awards.

just like the Premiership Manager of The Year is different to the LMA Manager of the Year.

doesnt really add any weight to any argument

Wrong Steely.

what exactly am i wrong about?

They are ALL LMA awards......you said "they are completely different awards"

Therefore the managers in the lower divisions have also been recognised by the LMA for their achievements, and have not been overlooked as your earlier post was suggesting.

they are different awards.

you are splitting hairs.

obviously they will be recognised in an award that is solely focused on their own division.

my point is that only once has any manager outside the top flight won the award. you dont think thats rather odd considering the english league has 92 managers and yet the winners have come from only around 5/6 clubs and mainly only one division?

i simply feel that the managers from lesser divisions should recieve more nationwide recognition for their efforts.

Yes you have a point, the thing is, it's the 92 managers themselves making the decision on who the TOP award should go to. Presumambly they must believe that the TOP award should go to someone for outstanding performance at the TOP end (the most difficult division in which to win anything) of the game. I'm guessing at that...I obviously don't know why they should cast their vote one way or the other.

yeah it just seems rather odd that these managers would always look to the top division when they, more than anyone, should appreciate how difficult it is to compete in the lower divisions with the many problems holding them back.

thats why i said id love to see how the voting went. say a top 5 or even a top three and how many votes each got.

Anyway Sir Alex deserved it in my opinion

I stopped reading this thread up to the point where i realised the award was for managers across all of the English football leagues, as i felt compelled to reply. What a f*cking farcical regime.

It is bad enough that Ferguson, who added three £15-£20m-worth players and a £20m-£30m-rated player to a squad already champions, spending as much or more than any of the three other potential contenders, should be considered for the Premier League.

But the fact these so-called experts of the game think that his feat is the greatest of any manager in English football is sickening. The fact someone could have such a warped, delusional sense of reality is frightening – thankfully, or not, the accolade isn't due to this, but of course the product of another unfavourable trait.

Because those at the helm of our football associations have a habit of being via themselves the ripest depiction of cowardice imaginable. Bias, spineless, the negative adjectives could dwindle on into the infinite.

Martinez must have been close i reckon

Phil Brown of Hull City should have won the award. He took the Hull side which only just survived relegation last year to 3rd place this year. Fair enough they did not win the league but they were not expecting a top half finish this season never mind 3rd place. It can be argued that they missed out on automatic promotion when with two games to go they were just about there. However, they are in a great position in the play offs and i hope we see them next year in the EPL. Well done Phil!

I wonder if Rafa voted for Fergie.

So Phil hasn't managed to win a trophy then. Ramos has more claim to the award imo.

look at who has won it in the past, have they all won a cup or the league?

Very good point Jac.

Oh, is it voted only by managers?

Yes mate.

In the English Premier League, The League Managers Association Manager of the Year Award is annual award given to a manager from any division for his achievements in the prior season. The award is voted by fellow professional managers unlike the FA Premier League Manager of the Year and as a result consideration is also given for managers who inherit poor sides or financial difficulties and not only those managers who do not have such financial constraints and have won trophies.

Wikipedia

Oh, i didn't know. I assumed it had something to do with those in charge of the LMA.

Makes it a little more bizarre that he's won. You'd expect fellow manager's would recognise and appreciate a real achievement, and that his, relative to others, is not the best.

That's the issue that Steely and I were debating. If Rafa, Avram or Arsene had been given the award for winning the EPL title this year, would that have been bizarre too?

Even one of your own greats thinks that Sir Alex Ferguson has achieved something special this season. Taken from the BBC sports website.



Sir Alex Ferguson is already a living LEGEND because of his achievements in football and you, Steely, Jackpot_Jac and anyone else displaying sour grapes over this award should understand that this award has been conferred because it is his 10th EPL title. A tremendous achievement.

you are such a wind up.

how on earth is it sour grapes!? my manager will never win the award. ever. im not overly fussed who wins an award that in reality does not mean a huge deal.

i am simply questioning and debating giving said award to a man who is already head and shoulders above 99.9% of the rest of his 'peers' in management in terms of money, resources, squad, power etc when there has been some outstanding performances from the likes of Phil Brown, Paul Ince, Gary Johnson and a few others.

the fact Tony Mowbray won the championship LMA trophy also is something i cant understand. his team were hot favourites to win the league, he had one of the best squads in one of the biggest clubs and among the most money. his only challenge was to avoid complacency. although i doubt you will bother arguing about that because it does not concern your hero.