Man united were not by far the better side. Are you that sad that you can't give us credit? Noone gave us a chance before the game but we went there and played good football. Yes, Given made some great saves but thats his job. We created chances (more than 10) and defended well, we deserved a draw. Not just newcastle fans are saying this. I'm sure there are man united fans feeling the same way.

The credit goes to Shay Given because he played well that is the only reason why Newcastle got a point and in fairness he usually does play well against Utd even though they usually score quite a few past him.

There maybe some Man Utd fans along with the media who feel Newcastle deserved a draw and that it was an amazing result. That is up to them. What is really amazing is the way a 1-1 draw has been received, with the help of the media it has been made to seem as if it were some non league club that had got a draw and not another PL team. It could be forgiven if it were Hull or Stoke City.

Thats like saying Peter Schmeichel is the only reason you were successful in the 90s. We defended well as a team and Given played a big part in the draw but it was not just down to him. The fact that we created many chances and passed it around shows that we played well as a team. Or was that all down to Shay?

Not quite. The Great dane played his part and even scored the odd goal but the defenders in front of him made sure in general he was not very busy. This cannot be said of Given his defence were carved open on many occasions. The same thing happened to Utd last season, games against Portsmouth and Blackburn come to mind where they somehow lost and drew respectively. Just because you think Newcastle played well does not mean they deserved a draw. Due to dreadful defending Martins scored. Any other "chances" that Newcastle had were nothing to speak of as Utd's defence dealt with them with relative ease. Can the same be said of the Newcastle defence? In any case to celebrate like Newcastle had won the league was still OTT.

What the hell is Given there to do? If Given saves the ball then United's shot has "missed". They didn't do enough to beat the 'keeper therefore they don't deserve to score. Unless the result depends on something like a refereeing decision, or some factor aside from the players and managers of either sides, then i always appreciate that the final result is what is "deserved". United didn't do enough to win, Newcastle (and Given is a part of Newcastle's team, not "Team Given") did enough to draw.

In the end the only way United could breach the Newcastle goal was when one of Newcastle's centre-backs, in Taylor, had been taken off the pitch injured, meaning they were down to 10 man. You could say they didn't deserve that goal because it was an unfair scenario.

Some people are so bitter.

Why is it bitter to say Newcastle did not deserve a draw?. Utd fans have nothing to be bitter about especially if it's anything to do with Newcastle. You may have forgotten but Utd even hit the bar so in fact did beat Given again if you want to look at it like that. In your opinion Utd chances were missed but in fact some were on target and saved. And how do you know that Utd wouldn't have scored anyway even if Taylor were on the pitch at that moment. If it wasn't for Given and the bar they would have.

It shows how low Newcastle have come when they celebrate a draw at OT in the way they did. If they had won a special monument would probably have had to be built.

In what way did we celebrate? By the players going over and clapping the fans? Isn't that meant to happen...

the problem with man united and their 'fans' is that they are so ungracious when victory does not come their way.

it is very tiresome, almost like a young child bitching because they have not got their favourite toy.

get some perspective Ragap. Newcastle put in a good solid performance and got a well earned draw against the supposed European Champions in their own backyard. what on earth is wrong with being pleased with that? were you not pleased to have drawn at the Nou Camp last season? did you not celebrate that draw?

That Ragap is an embarressment to Man Utd.

He must be the same age as Del Piero10. I dont know how any United fan can say they deserved to win that game!

Newcastle battled bravely, created chances of their own, and fully deserved a point. I was very impressed with their new signings they have made especially the lad with the long black hair, cant remember his name. Guthrie also looks like he will be able to hold his own. I have given him a fair bit of stick so I hope he proves me wrong.

Ragap, you go on about why we are celebrating this result so much. Firstly, we're not really going OTT are we, you're exagerating that far too much.

Secondly, to go to Old Trafford and play like we did on saturday is certainly something to be pleased about. It's not often a club goes to OT and comes away with a point, and plays so well again english and european champions, best players or no best players. Furthermore, the fact that we as a club have very little to celebrate about just gives the fans something to be proud about, and players that little boost of confidence to perform better next game and throughout the season.

Can someone please explain this post to me?
Bizarre!!!!!!!!!!

I think what Tom is saying Specnur is that Manchester United have no excuses for the draw on the weekend. They are supposedly the best club in Europe, so should have good enough cover to replace Ronaldo and Tevez.

I agree with that statement somewhat, and nobody can be sure that the result would have been any different if Ronaldo or Tevez were playing that day. I can understand some United fans being disappointed about the result, as we are not already playing catchup to Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal, however it is only one game. This time last year, we had just drawn to Reading, who were able to match us on the pitch.

Newcastle did extremely well on the weekend, and fully deserved their point. I don't see why Newcastle fans are getting bashed for celebrating a draw against us - they had a lot to be happy about. Their new signings looked very good, and it has given them something to shout about.

Manchester United will bounce back from this and if anything it has highlighted even more just how weak we are up front. Yes we have some talented players, but we need a goalscorer, and Sir Alex needs to get one in ASAP. If not, then I see Chelsea running away with it this season.

I am not worried just yet, and am trusting Fergie to get it right by bringing in a goalscorer.

it may be worth reminding Man Utd fans that they did not have a great start last season ...only had 2 points after 3 games , everyone was saying it was a crisis ...etc but look what they ended up with ...

Are you a complete spag?

thank you for explaining a pretty simple post O Dogg.

What is a spag?

spag bol perhaps?

Not you O Dogg, I was calling Specnur a spag because he couldn't understand my post.

but what is a spag?