I've already said this, so I'll just COPY and PASTE some of it again...

Why shouldn't Frings be punished? What will kids think? it's okay to punch people, as long as you don't do it hard.... It's okay to punch back... What kind of a society are we living in?

All these comments like...we're gonna smash your faces and...you're gonna be destroyed or whatever DO NOT BELONG TO FOOTBALL.

TV footage has been used in the past, so why shouldn't it now?

Imagine being in court:

- Mr Frings, Did you punch Mr Cruz?
- But he...
- Please answer my question!
- But.... Yes I did, but...
- I have no more questions.

If Cruz DID punch Frings, the HE TOO should be punished - simple as that. It's logic.

Yes, I think that would be cool. It seems so, that nobody knows who Borowski is, that's good. Everybody in Germany knows how good Owen Hargreaves is, many knows how good Frings is, but nobody seems to know how good Borowski is. He is the guy, who normaly feed Klose.
We'll see, I don't mind that Germany is weaker now.

Doesnt matter, it was the italian press who started to show the incident again. FIFA had already closed the case but had to investigate again after the stuff was shown on italian TV. So it doesnt matter which italian is responsible fact is it was some italian.

Does it matter who started it?

I mean, it DID HAPPEN, didn't it? Why pretend it didn't?

Foul conduct MUST ALWAYS BE PUNISHED,

Therefore , transitive property, you're pointing that every media is able to affect a jury decision and, moreover that sometimes what the international TV broadcasting (German, not Italian )recorded should *not* be shown again , especially in the contendent's country; what the Italian media showed you can call a scoop , not a trick, face it

i dont think it really happened. remember... even cruz said there was nothing. and if cruz says theres nothing how can the fifa come up and say frings has hit him hard.
this photo:
http://www.bild.t-online.de/BTO/sport/wm2006/aktuell/07/03/deutschland-frings-ermittlungen/hg-frings-gross.html
proves nothing. it shows theres an arm... im not even sure if its the arm of frings and what exactly that arm did.

its just a decision made by fifa after the italian media came up with that crap.

It's a decision made by FIFA and we have to respect it (no matter who started the investigation)!

We have enough players in the squad and surely there will be one who can replace Frings.

Exactly.

sure... decisions made by fifa have to be respected. but that doesnt mean i cant think different
whatever... germany has to play with borowski or kehl instead of frings and will be ok anyways.

CLAP CLAP CLAP

exellent..also i want to know why figo was not banned when he punches with his head to a holland player..

bierhoff you will die for bad person

funny how the argies think about that.
They finally started this whole mess and most of ur balless players are being accused.

But let us think it would have been the other way round and Germany would insist that for example Pirlo or Luca Toni should be banned. Nobody would cry and whine louder than italy!!!

Double standard at its best dont you think?!?!?!?

Italians and Argentines are bad people they cheet
they are dirty too

the rest of the world are just inocent bambies.

I want Italia to win this world cup badly and see the reactions of the world...
well I`m also half italian too and proud to be ..

so
Vamos Italia!!!

Italia 1 0 with a Camoranesi goal!!!!

we haven't need FiFa
we are italians not danish
and than....who is Frings !!!!!
germany good plays but remerber .....italian's do it better
good luck

my favourite's team is juventus(fanculo la triade) and when i think about english football
i see this:http://www.contrast.org/hillsborough/history/heysel.shtm
shame on you and remember!!!!

Always a shame when a team can't be at it's full strenght in such an important match!

I didn't see the images of Frings in the end of the match, but maybe, just because it was by the end of the match he could take a couple of months suspension in the next European qualifying or something...and then Italy could say they are a better team then Germany, as Germany played with their best players....and the same goes for all teams

Neither does Ricardo Carvalho anymore

Neither does Ricardo Carvalho anymore

apart from this trash and sorry point of view acusing now Italy with this nonesense thing...

German players are not at the level of the instance.. they deserv to stop NOW!.

Sorry for any German fan, but one thing is to win and me congratulating you after winning as the situation and manners should be... and another different thing is to deserve it playing on the field the way it should.

That was clear like water... a weak team affraid and playing home that centered a ball backwards and headed desperately and found another head in a desperate move with a goal whitin 10 minutes in a game where they never knew what to play to... (apart from Argentina responsability of not making the best substitutions and loosing one of the bests goalies of the torunament that his specialty is saving penalties.... even whitin that scene... Germans should not pass the quarter finals instance against us... they are enjoying it now even more due to this fact cos it is as true as it sounds and was felt be any football lover) so far... they were not going to make any other Nation cheer for you with that ki9nd of show... even more if there was not a neutral ref and for even worst if you got out the Team that showed the most solid idea and gave the most concrete show of strenght in the most difficult goup of the WC.

So...


GO ITALY GO!

When I first saw the video of the incident I knew Frings would be banned. It doesn't matter if Cruz felt something/anything or not. FiFa has a zero tolerance policy in those matters and rightfully so.
I believe Cruz only claimed that he wasn't hit because he knew he had also swung at someone.
I believe it was a refelx on Frings part, which still has got to be punished, and the rather mild sentence of just 1 game shows that FIFA recognizes the minor nature of it.

I don't blame the Italian press for anything and I firmly believe that our press would have done the same. It's part of professional journalism.

Bad luck for us, but now someone else has to step up and show us that he is a good player.

RobertG:

You are complete right. Argentinia played beautiful football. Your players are highly skilled, physically strong and tactically very well trained. And they are at home right now. Your supposedly superior players just couldn't cut it when it really mattered. You don't like our way of playing football - fair enough. 120 min of football showed that both teams were equal in everything that truely matters in football. Therefore we had a penalty shootout and in this contest of skill, nerves and guts, Germany won.
Granted once FiFa awards extra goals for beautifully passing the football around in midfield Argentinia will be the undefeated champions.

I am sorry to be so blunt, but I have had it with all that whining. If we lose to Italy tonight I will congratulate my Italian friends and hope for a worthy final and deserving new World Champion.

OK, i understand why Argentinians are in a bad mood ... cause WE KICKED YOU OUT!!! No need to say anything more.
It is a pity what happened to Frings, not because we can't play without him, but because he is a nice guy and a good player.
What *beeps* me off the most is, that These bad losers from Argentina start kicking and hitting our players and when they start to defend themselves, they get banned. I have no words for that. Unbelievable. And by the way, what did Bierhoff do, that he deserves to die? Did you cry your brain out after the elimination?
It is not Italy's fault and not the team's fault, but the atmosphere is gonna be really extreme tonight. Thanks to italian media and FIFA.
If it was a violent punch Frings must have been banned for 6 games. (FIFA laws) So why 1+1 ... because it was nothing, but they felt like they had to react somehow, for what reason ever.
Ridiculous!!