no,you're wrong:
this is my SATISFACTION for the victory against the europe arrogants

hey, guys. i'm 33 now. i played football at very very low level for 14 years. You can't have an idea of how many insults and swearings i've heard. everybody calling about my mother, my father, a sister(that i don't have) and so on. and is not only that. people walking on yor feet, pushing your hairs, kicking you every moment. I never reacted like that. NEVER. and i was palying for FREE, not getting millions!!!! Winning the Wc means getting 250000 euros!!! You should behave only for that!
And more: have you any idea of how many insults a black player gets every year in Italy, in Spain and yes also in England even if you don't like to admit it.
So, don't be childish. Zidane is one of the best football players in history! He has responsabilities.
I'm very sad about what happened last night. I'm a Juventus supporter and Zidane for me was something special. It's easy to say "he is a genius", but when you've seen him every sunday at Delle Alpi for years you really love him. Now, this is another terrible thing for me, even if we won the world cup (not cheating. Cheating is what, sigh, my club did).

I hear what you say, belis, and I too am very very curious to know. Not that I expect we shall ever know the absolute truth, and not that it makes any real difference after the event, but it is one of those big questions now!

As to the the second part of your post, I have to say I am of the opposite view. I cannot think of anything that Matzy could possibly have said that Zidane hasn't heard before in all his many years of footballing. I don't think there are any original insults left!

I don't know about his (Zidane's) state of mind. He is a hard man, and has fought hard football matches at the highest level. Of course, he does have a reputation for violence against his opponents (Zidane's previous record for head-butting is damning. He was given a five-match Champions' League ban in 2000 for doing the same to Jochen Kientz of Hamburg when he was at Juventus. He was sent off during France's victorious 1998 World Cup campaign for stamping on Faoud Amin of Saudi Arabia.) So I wonder what insults he claimed were given to him that time? It does add up to a bad overall picture.

It sounds as though I dislike Z - far from it. Up until that moment I always thought he was one of the few 'unique' footballers even though I'm not French! I was even saying on this forum how I hoped he scored a goal in the final on his farewell match! But seeing his anger and violence, now he is a failure in my mind. I think of him as an angry, weak man, too old to be able to handle the pressure any more. And I don't like feeling that way!!!!

HEY ! you are the new Europe's arrogants now !!!!

http://www.eurosport.com/football/sport_sto923811.shtml

I'm an Englander, born and bred. This forum I suppose is where a lot of bad blood between fans is shed about. The 2006 Final match, won by Italy, I thought was desrved and necessary - simply because of penalties - there had to be a winner. Also, they needed to bring some 'credibility' to their football due to scandal in Italy (not scandal in World Cup though!).

Zizou I blame partly for France lack of attack in Extra-time - he reacted inappropriatley in Final of WorldCup. Better to score goal. However, as with England's exit, I blame mostly the manager's flawed tactics. Lippi did better with what he had than Domenech. Both teams showed tremendous spirit in finding their way from bad performances earlier in tournament.

But, I'll say this...Ronaldo was blamed for Rooney's bad behaviour, not Rooney himself (Ronaldo had his house in Chesire, England attacked!!). And, Materazzi was blamed for Zidane's outburst - berated in world media. Lessons must be learnt here.

Leoric
"FIFA fair play"

...and the he said/he said suppositions just keep a-coming!!

A few more "lip reading experts" (if they're such experts how come nearly every one has said something different? ) and "well places sources" (hmmmmm... ) say:


1. Top lip-reader Marianne Frere revealed the Italian told Zidane — who understands the language after playing for Juventus — a high ball was “not for feccia like you”. (Feccia = bad word!!)

2. A source close to the Italian squad claimed that after twisting Zidane’s nipple, Materazzi asked him: “What, don’t you like it?” The French captain replied: “A bit too hard to turn me on.”
But Materazzi shouted: “Well, I did it that way because I know that’s how your mother likes it.”

3. Materazzi’s agent denied any racist slur — and said the attack came when Zidane offered to swap shirts later and the Italian replied: “‘I’d rather take the shirt off your wife.”

I wish they'd get on with it and say what was really said!!! Then we could all argue about who was lying etc.....

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/1,,2006310771,00.html


mmh....interesting


so probably materazzi's insult is about

1) his momma
2) his wife

materazzi denied about insulting his algerian roots calling him "terrorist" (i'm not a lip reader, but I saw the an mpeg. ...it doesn't seems to be any word like "terrorist")

materazzi denied about insulting his mom (mh....he lies! probably! or maybe he insulted his wife)

I think racism insults are horrible. very bad. something that zidane doesn't want to say to newspaper (why???)

maybe because there's a difference between insultg his mother or his race.

he played in juventus for so many years , and surely a lot of players insulted his mom/sister/wife




i'm curious: If Mateeazzi will admit an insult about his mom, and Zidane will confirm......

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1) the sun
2) l'equipe
3) guardian


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lo lol lol

Last news.

It seems that Materazzi said , in Roman dialect wich Zizou surely knows "ma va mori ammazzato te, e la tua famiglia!"

The translation is hard, cause litterally is "Go to die, you, and your family", but in fact is an italian (roman) insult that means, more easily, "vaffanculo".

Zizou has is mother at the hospital... so maybe this is the reason for the reaction of the french champion

Font: BBC and Gazzetta dello Sport

Yeah, I saw another very similar from a BBC source too:

"The BBC's Ten O'Clock News also called in experts to study the television footage of the incident and determined the following:

Materazzi's first word to Zidane was "no" before he then told him to "calm down".

He then accused him of being a "liar" and wished "an ugly death to you and your family" on the day the Frenchman's mother had been taken to hospital ill. This was followed by "Go f*** yourself".

Zidane's agent, Alain Migliaccio, has hinted that Zidane will soon reveal exactly what was said by Materazzi."

Well hurry up, Monsieur Migliaccio! Otherwise cynical people might start to think you're just waiting to judge what insult the public will be most horrified by and go for that one!!! Eh, it's getting more like a soap opera now....

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On Aol News It says That Materazzi Admitted to saying some thing-----------------

Materazzi, 32, told Gazetta dello Sport: "I held his shirt for a few seconds only, then he turned to me and talked to me, jeering.

"He looked at me with a huge arrogance and said, 'If you really want my shirt, I'll give it to you afterwards.' I replied with an insult, that's true.''

Materazzi has not elaborated on what he did say, but one report suggested he responded with: "I'd rather take the shirt off your wife."

He has denied, however, some of the more vile insults referring to his wife or sister or calling him a terrorist.

"It was one of those insults you're told dozens of times and that you often let fall on a pitch,'' Materazzi said.

"I did not call him a terrorist. I am not a cultured person and I don't even know what an Islamist terrorist is.''

He added: "For me the mother is sacred, you know that.''

The incident marked an unsavoury end to Zidane's career, especially as France went on to lose the match on penalties. The 34-year-old star had said he would retire after the tournament.

I totally agree that Zidane should not have done this, he should have done this : speak to the referee told him about the ''racist comment'' and have materazzi sent off for racism . Well I would find it funny if a player ever does this.

what kind of a...h... is materazzi ???

i mean does he think people are dumb????



he supposedley doesn't know what a terrorist is????



give me a break man!!!



this makes him so guilty!!



does he really think he can tell us this kind of nonsense.


where has he been the last 5years?


on the moon?


what a joke this man

hahahahaha, saying he isn't a cultured man and he doesn't know what a terrorist is was priceless!

You are giving more and more proof that you don't get the point, mate.
Read what Leoric wrote:

"Ronaldo was blamed for Rooney's bad behaviour, not Rooney himself (Ronaldo had his house in Chesire, England attacked!!). And, Materazzi was blamed for Zidane's outburst - berated in world media. Lessons must be learnt here."

Carrie also wrote that he/she doesn't think "there are any original insults left". I think we can ALL agree with that. Zidane has probably heard them all before.

The problem here, my dear belis, isn't Materazzi - it's none other than Zidane. He's done it before. There's something WRONG with a person who behaves like that.

I don't want to come back on this bad thing on what he has said

I just say materazzi is nothing face to Zidane

He makes provocation, he scored, he is world champion but he's nothing

Italy didn't deserve to win it France had beaten the biggest teams

I think the real Finale was Brazil - France

people that doesn't understand ironic phrases are dumb

do you feel judged?

If someone nipple crippled me then sed I "son of a terrorist whore" im sorry but i would have probebly done the same thing

of course








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