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  • superkiwi
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Hi everybody! It's me again! It's ok, I'm not sad anymore! lol

Well, now in France, we are all talking about the "Zidane's case". Just forget the sport event and the competition for a while, I think that that unhappy headbutt in a point of view belongs till today to the history of the World Cup! So now we are contemporary with a case that won't be forget for many decades!

Next generation will remember that "legendary" headbutt! lol That headbutt is among the Maradona's Hand of God in 1986, the english controversy goal in 1966, Pelé winning definitly the Jules Rimet's World cup in 1970, Badgio missing the goal in 1994, Schumacher's hit in 1982, the defeat of Cruyff in 1974, or Maradonna's tear in 1990. I think that legendary moment happen only to legendary player, and now thinking about that, the very bad thing Zizou has done, that is a very bad example for children, must be seen as an history moment and not as a detail!

So in this topic, I will just put news that we know for now about this case. Zizou has confirmed that he will do a press conference soon to explain his act, and of course to apologize for what he has done. It's very important because as he is a french hero, he must be an example for french children that are playing football.

So till now, we know that:

- Materazzi admited that he insulted Zidane (not a real revelation...) in response of "Zidane's arrogance". He has drawn his shirt, so Zidane has respond him: "If you want my shirt, I will give it to you at the end of the match", so after that "taunt", Materazzi started to insult him. He didn't say what he has said, he has just said that his insult was not towards his mother nor his sister, and he didn't accuse him to be a terrorist (that would be a racist insult because of Zidane's origin).

- English experts said that Materazzi has said "You are a son of terrorist whore", which Materazzi denied saying that he is not very clever and he don't know what a terrorist is!!! (hey!!! I'm not kidding!!! I can't believe it!!!)

- Brazilian experts (of TV Globo) said that Materazzi has said "Your sister is a whore" twice (damn, why experts are contradicting themself?)

- In France, people that know Zidane think that it was an insult towards his mother (what is common) but as his mother is ill and is in a very bad condition in hospital, and as he is worrying very much about his mother, he didn't take it in a bad way, which was denied by Materazzi, saying that a mother is sacred.

- Italian press don't think that it was an insult toward his mother because Materazzi's mother died when he was 14, so he couldn't insult a mother.

- Other people in France, as Aimé Jacquet (the french coach that lead France to win the 1998's world cup) said that Zidane looks like an angel, but is a killer. He may have a double personality, and former coaches have said that he was agressive when he was young. So maybe Zidane double cross us being kind in the media and towards people that suffer in the world, but is insane deep inside (I don't know why, but I thrust that theory). So maybe that case will show us another Zidane that we don't know, the day he quits the world of football.

- Other psychologists think that this headbutt may be a sign a crisis of an end of a career of a sportman, that can be compared as a first death in sportmen's life, so in panic, 10 minutes before the end, his nerves couldn't hold it...

The pros: 61% of french people forgive what Zidane has done, other people think that it was one of the best way to end a career (really, I don't understand them very much!), and a part of french people think that the italian player deserved it (don't understand that too...). Most of football experts (and Vieira too) think that the loss of Zidane was not a great handicap in the defeat of France.

The cons: Zidane's headbutt was a catastrophe for the children, after the generation of Maradona's Hand of God, most of people think that this headbutt will have consequences in french football. In very poor disctricts in France, Zidane is a example and they may follow a bad way... The chief of Police of Paris fear that it will have bad consequences in violence for a while. And of course, it show a bad image of french football that is not known to be violent...

Nothing more for now, I'm following that case closely because it was a shock for me, as for you I guess, so before Zidane's press conference, I'm searching all news I can for now Very Happy

 
  • spurfan15
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As a professional footballer, he has no case. Headbutting another player is just unacceptable conduct anyway you look at it. It probably will set a bad example for kids and it will be remembered by all.

As a human being, I can understand what he did and I may have reacted the same way in that situation. I'm sure Materazzi said something really nasty... probably about his mother and/or family and/or race. His statement about not knowing what an Islamic terrorist is reeks of bs. I've seen many of Materazzi's fouls, and he typically does something incredibly cheap and dirty, and then tries to deny everything afterward. He is definitely the cheapest player on the Italian side, and possibly the cheapest player in the world. He is ruthless.

When you consider these hurtful comments and the fact that it was Zidane's last game... and his mother was in the hospital, its pretty easy to see why he lashed out. It's sad that things happened the way they did, but at least Zidane was man enough to get in front of Materazzi, turn and face him, and lay him out. As a player, shame on you Zidane. As a man, good job Zidane that piece of human trash deserved what what he got.

 
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no i dont think he has a case at all , the only issue is whether Matterazzi can be punished for his provoking of Zidane . I hear that when Zidane mentioned to him that he can have his shirt after the match , Matterazzi replied `i would rather have the shirt off your wife` which caused Zidane to headbutt the Italian . I dont think FIFA can hand out any fine or ban unless it has been proved Matterazzi racially abused Zidane . I suppose they could charge Matterazzi with bringing the game into disrepute or maybe unprofessional conduct but that sort of thing must go on week in week out in the leagues .

Whatever happened , Zidane failed to control himself when it was most needed ...in a World Cup Final and he did headbutt an opponent so there is no case for him to be let off or the red card erased .

 
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Just to correct what super kiwi said (welcome back BTW). Aime JAcquet said exactly " Zidane is an angel in everyday life but on the pitch, he is a killer"
Zidane I guess, like most of shy persons, swallows a lot of provocation and then when the cup is full burst out into some really violent reaction.

One has to accept that god Zidane is only human after all.

 
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Someone here sounds proud of what happened in the final... pathetic.

IF he was provoked, his reaction as a PLAYER is unacceptable.

IF he was provoked, his reaction as a MAN is unacceptable.

How dare you say Zidane did a "good job" as a man spurfan15 ? How dare you?
What kind of a (HU)MAN are you ? How dare you call a player "cheap and dirty" just because you've seen some of his fouls? Who do you think you are....God? You probably didn't even watch Materazzi play the past few seasons. You probably hoped he'd be sent off just because of your prejudice towards him. You probably thought the French player didn't dive in the area and that it was a penalty, even though there was no contact.

And Mr superkiwi... You are happy that a VIOLENT ACT is part of World Cup history. All the events you listed there had NOTHING TO DO WITH VIOLENCE. How proud you must be.

"legendary"

No, only STUPID, and violent.

If I could enter people's minds, I'd rather delete the whole event rather than raise Zidane to the heavens like you are doing. It's disgraceful.

 
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About the word case, maybe I used a wrong word because of my english, well I wanted to say Zidane's affair or something like that... Well I think you understand what I mean Very Happy

Hi bigbroantonio!!!

About the act itself, I'm not happy at all, don't misunderstand me! As I have said before, I would like to see him quitting that world cup as a great player as he was. That headbutt was a real shock for me and probably for most of us.

But now that have be done, we can't return to the past unfortunatly. In this topic, I'm not judging him, everybody can judge him, but that's not the problem I want to highlight in this topic. What I want to highlight is that we are assisting to an historical moment of that world cup, whatever it is a good or a bad moment! That headbutt will be remembered forever in the world cup history, no doubt about it, as many key events in the history of the world cup, and to me (and maybe most of us), it's the first time we are contemporary with an historical moment! I was too young to see the hand of god of Maradonna, I was not born to see Pelé triying to score from the middle of the field, too young to remember Schumacher's attack, not born to see that controversy english goal in 1966.

As I have said before, football is more than a sport, it's a caricature of real life. Football, in its rules, is a middle age sport! It isn't a perfect science sport, a little team can sometimes beat a great team, a referee can do mistake. Do technology must be used to add more justice in football, as it is done in rugby or basketball? Of course not! Because it's not perfect, football is a famous through the world! It's the most human sport and the most democratic sport, unlike rugby that require strong body players for example... A Roberto Carlos that is not very tall can be one of the best players of the world! That's why a headbutt from Zidane, which is a violent act, is before all a human act that unfortunatly we can find everywhere in the world. And as Zidane is not a common player, that make that human act forever remembered. Do you remember the red card of Desailly during the 1998 final? Of course not, because he is not a legendary player. But do you remember the tears of Maradonna in 1990? Of course yes, even if tears in final are very common!

2006, with his good and bad points, will be remembered as the last world cup of Zidane. I'm not judging anything, we are living something, that what is the point of the topic. Nobody can justify violence of course, and not me!

 
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So, Zidane has talked today in french television!

Unfortunatly, he didn't say what Materazzi has said. He has just said that it was "very grave". He confirmed that his mother and sister was aimed, so the brazilian hypothesis is confirmed. He added that he will never apologize for what he has done to Materazzi, and that his act was not a crazy act, he assume it.

He didn't say anything about racist insult nor terrorist things.

He is not clear at all, so the mystery remains... We think that he doesn't say anything about terrorist act because it's a "serious" accusation that should have consequences, but it's just a french speculation.

But it's not finished yet, because Zidane will be convoked by FIFA's administration, and we think that he will tell everything about this affair...

 
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Zidane has just mad excuse towards french supporters!!! He admited that it was not a good thing, just hope that children has listened him!

So I think, most of that case is over now... I hope the 39% of French that didn't want to forgive him will forgive him after these apologizes. I hated him at the beginning, but now I forgive what he has done to us. Time to turn the page now!

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