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italy 2006 = greece 2004

Grass Roots

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Post Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 7:20 pm Reply with quote
Since 2004 the two champions are defensive teams.

Italy and Greece looked unbeatabble because all their players are in the defensive zone. How can the best teams win in front of a team which not play ?

Do you think it is the end of offensive teams like brazil and we can't win like that anymore ? Crying or Very sad

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Post Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 10:08 pm Reply with quote
No don't worry offenses will adapt and then defenses will adpat its a forever changing thing. Don't worry offense will be seen again!

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Post Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 7:07 am Reply with quote
italy have scored 122 goals and conceded 2. the only game in which they really sat back was against france(due to tiredness...having played the game of the tournament aginst germany).

italy have scored with many different players.


what defensive football are you talking about?

are you blind???

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Post Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 7:08 am Reply with quote
but you are croatian so you dont reallt count,.,,

Re: italy 2006 = greece 2004

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Post Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 7:29 am Reply with quote
Zlatko wrote:
Since 2004 the two champions are defensive teams.

Italy and Greece looked unbeatabble because all their players are in the defensive zone. How can the best teams win in front of a team which not play ?

Do you think it is the end of offensive teams like brazil and we can't win like that anymore ? Crying or Very sad


This time Italy did not play "catenaccio" and having one of the best defenses of the cup is not a bad thing at all.
France also had a fantastic defence this does not mean they did not attack.

In addition, having just a good defence (the so called "catenaccio") does not make you win the WC, Italy won as soon as the "catenaccio" was abandoned.

On the other hand, having teams with very good defenses will make other's team improving their attack (and the other way around), it's always been like that and football has always improved (to me, at least, I know somebody may not share this point of view).

Only those team which will be able to keep up with the improvings will stay in the WC (as usual).

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Post Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 7:30 am Reply with quote
ITALIANO wrote:
but you are croatian so you dont reallt count,.,,


I have croatian friends who count far more than you!!!!!

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Post Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 7:48 am Reply with quote
dear countryman ancann of course i was talking football wise. no racial remark meant!!! Wink

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Post Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 8:35 am Reply with quote
ITALIANO wrote:
dear countryman ancann of course i was talking football wise. no racial remark meant!!! Wink


OK, I had this doubts when I read but still, your post can be misunderstood.
Just make sure your post gives the message you want when you submit it.

Ciao

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Post Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 8:54 am Reply with quote
I think Italy's attack is much more better than Greece.

They could get two goals against Germany, but how about Greece? Always 1-0!

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Post Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 9:37 am Reply with quote
the only similarities with greece are that no one expected italy to win.greece won deservedly but you can;t reallt compare both styles of playing and individual quality of the players...italy is obviously better

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Post Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 11:42 am Reply with quote
ITALIANO wrote:
the only similarities with greece are that no one expected italy to win.greece won deservedly but you can;t reallt compare both styles of playing and individual quality of the players...italy is obviously better


Agreed. Italy national side best in Europe. But, unfortunately, a dark cloud hangs over their domestic league. You can't possibly cheat in World Cup match. So, I'm glad for Italy in winning world cup, as on balance over decades, they are best in Europe (or Germany?). Italy needed to show World Football - despite domestic football strife - they deserved to win - they certainly showed that by beating 'best' team in tournament and in the way that they did it. Fast paced, strong attacking Italian football. Was a delight to watch. That match 'rescued' the tournament. (Lasting memory thankfully would not be Zinedine Zidane's act in final.)

Re: italy 2006 = greece 2004

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Joined: 08 Jul 2006
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Post Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 1:13 pm Reply with quote
Zlatko wrote:
Since 2004 the two champions are defensive teams.

Italy and Greece looked unbeatabble because all their players are in the defensive zone. How can the best teams win in front of a team which not play ?

Do you think it is the end of offensive teams like brazil and we can't win like that anymore ? Crying or Very sad


Football is unjust sometimes, it's not always the best teams who win the cup. France would have won the world cup like Portugal would have won the euro in 2004.

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Post Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 11:31 am Reply with quote
pauleta shall I remind you that greece beat you twice and deservedly...eh eh

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