Hello. I am a West Ham fan and not a troll.

I just thought i should let you know what you are letting yourself in for with Roeder and doing something very similar to what a Watford fan did on a West Ham chatroom before we decided to employ him full time.

Before I say anything just look at his career stats. He has managed three clubs (Gillingham, Watford and West Ham) and has an identical record at all three, he finished seventh in his first season in charge and then got them all relegated.

The thing about Roeder is that because he is quite a modest and quiet bloke he is normally the exact opposite to the bloke that got sacked and therefore appeals to the chairman. Compared to Redknapp he was honest, decent and much more media savvy (i.e. not rent a quote). Compared to Souness he is less brash and confrontational and more of a modern manager with the players.

The problem with Roeder is that he cannot sustain his man management of the players. Because he is something of a geek he tends to lose the respect of the players and his only way of hitting back is by dropping them (see Di Canio in the season we went down, if he had played we wouldn't have gone down, simple as). By the end of his tenure there were rumours of alcoholism in the squad, players not turning up for training and not getting disciplined and Roeder basically shutting his eyes to it all and pretending it's not happening.

His record in the transfer market was also appaling. He bought Gary Breen, Thomas Repka (who West Ham fans actually rate but he wasn't worth 5 mill) and Don Hutchison. Gary Breen is the worst player I have ever seen wear the claret and blue and that is really saying something!

I found him to be a very decent man and even though he took us down the whole crowd sang his name after he had a stroke. He was liked by the fans but patently not up to the job. Sir Trevor nearly saved us but the damage done by Roeder to team spirit and allowing prima donna's to rule the roost was what killed us in the end.

Don't think Newcastle are to good to go down. Remember, Roeder took down a team containing: Joe Cole, Ian Pearce (he was actually good then), Michael Carrick, Trevor Sinclair, Jermain Defoe, Freddie Kanoute and Di Canio.

Stats don't lie, he will do it to you as well.

Last wednesday i was at a sportsmans dinner at Newcastle falcons attended by chopra and lee clark.I asked clarkie whats the differance between souness and roeder,he replied that souness brought team morale down by blaming his best players being injured.He went on to say Roeder tells players whos on the team sheet that they are the best and deserve being there.Chopra said that team spirit has never been better with roeder in charge.As soon as he took over the team seems to have got the shape back on the pitch,best footie ive watched there for 2 years.Ithink he should be given a chance.

100% agree with JJ cause at the end of the day - we might have gone down this season if it wasn't for Roeder!
Why change things now?

Just a case of wait n see!

Of the three clubs he has managed he has taken three clubs down in his second year in charge!

This time next year (if he still has a job) the players will all be dis-respecting him and acting as they please.

As i said in my original post, i hope that doesn't happen, i think Roeder is a very decent man and deserves better but he just doesn't have the man management skills to keep the respect of premiership footballers.

as i have said before, he has done well with Newcastle because he hasn't had to sign anyone. (plus shearer is the one running the team - but i won't get into that argument)

his signings at West Ham were shocking, and as soon as things started to go bad he couldn't recover from it. he hasn't had to deal with a bad spell at Newcastle...yet

I cant speak for all Newcastle fans but I have faith in Roeder, he performend a mirical to get us into European football near the end of last season and I'm sure the players will respect him because of it.

But i simply have to. You may have problems with Shepherd but if you had a decent manager at the helm (look at O'Neill at Villa) then you wouldn't be in the relegation zone.

How many games in a season? Judge us at the end of it.

you are a West Ham fan but have made all of your posts (all three of them) in the Newcastle forum?


seems like you are only here to have a dig at Newcastle

i tthink he ok but i thgink he need to go back to manager school and get him to be a proper manger not the manager who doesnt know what he doing

Not at all, i post on an Ezboard West Ham site. I'm not here to cause a row or to have a pop so i'll make this my last post. The most important person in a football club by a country mile is a manager, you may have the worst chairman in the history of football (although West Ham and villa fans would definitely beg to differ) but if you had Arsene Wenger at the helm then everything in geordie land would be rosy. My point being that it's virtually impossible to get rid of a chairman that you don't like so you are best off concentrating on having a manager that is half decent as the role they play at the club has ten times more impact on your results than the chairmans. Roeder isn't even good enough to manage a div 2 side let alone a premiership one.

I am watching his quotes at the moment and it is like watching history repeat itself. His one famous quote when we were bottom of the league was 'i won't be losing any sleep over it, there are more important things in life than football'. He clearly doesn't understand the importance of his job.

Anyway, i'm off. Best of luck for the season, i hope you don't go down. If you haven't got rid of Roeder by January though it could well be to late.

Newcastle r crap and they r bottom of the league i think their team is pathetic they cant score cause they don't have a goalscorer

we do but he's currently injured

shut up....y r u in Newcastle united forum....stop coming here and start calling Newcastle crap

No it's the the chairman.

Stop calling Newcastle crap

Roeder is an okay manager, nothing more, nothing less.

I dont think Newcastle will win anything with Roeder as their manager. We will probably be stucked in the Intertoto-cup with him. Maybe we will reach far in the cups, but I dont think we will win anything. In best case, we will reach the FA-cup final.

If we really want to qualify to the Champions League again, and win titles, we need to appoint a world class manager who can lead us to victory in matches that we should win, like Fulham and Sheffield United home, and Everton and Bolton away. We need to approve! We also need a manager who understands how important it is to strengthen the defence, and not priority the midfield over and over again.

Dont get me wrong, Roeder is not a bad manager. But he isnt good enough for a team that wants to win titles.

We cannot blame Freddy Shepherd either, or wait! We can! Because he havent appointed a manager that can handle his job good enough.

Our midfield is excellent, and the covering on the goalkeeperspot is also quite brilliant. But our ONLY decent striker at the MOMENT is Martins (Owen doesnt count), and the defence... well, I dont even want to mention it.

And if Roeder doesnt buy 1-2, maybe 3 class-defenders soon, and also a striker that can produce alot of goals, he and Newcastle United will be in deep, deep trouble.
Well it is true that the results is the most important thing for a footballclub, but our low positioning at the table is simply not good enough. And as I have allready written, I dont think we will win a single cup either. We didnt make it with Sir Bobby as manager (even if we deserved it so much), so I dont think we will do it under Roeder.

But let Roeder sit in the managers chair out the season, so he can prove if he is worthy the job, or not. At least the club is better now than it was under Souness, so Roeder is not completely useless.

We won the Intertoto cup with Roeder. Bobby Robson couldn't do it.

I almost forgot that, but nobody cares about the Intertotocup, im afraid. And I dont think we will be able to win other titles than that cup.
I know, I am pessimistic and all that stuff, but this is my honest opinion.

I'm hoping for the Uefa cup. We have came close in recent years.