Do u guys also think that titus brambel is a donkey because i think he is a worse player then ramage and is the real donkey in black and white

I'd agree with you there Ameer. At least Ramage can move. Bramble is like a lost Walrus on a strange beach.

Maybe they were tired ?
This result surprised me a lot even more that the win at Spurs.
Glad for Muamba and Larsson though.

Yes Bramble is a mediocre player and he is not the quality of player that we need. Someone of the calibre of a fit Jonathon Woodgate is what we should be looking at bringing in to help the youngsters Taylor and Huntington Ramage is 23 now and he is to slow makes rash tackles passes teh ball back to given to much or gives possesion away like for the first goal. He is a crap player IMO as is Bramble Carr and Babayaro. We definitely need to bring in quality defenders first and foremost.

Defenders have been your weakness for years mate. Why is the building going on in the other areas of the team?

Are the Managers to blame for that?

Managers are always to blame for bad performances, that is a football rule.

Very bad result unfortunately... how could it happen, I really don't understand.
From your posts I see that Toons played with their best squad... very strange game.

No, far from their best squad were playing. A key player for them is Scott Parker and he was missing.

The backline was just a mess in all honesty & Birmingham played really, really well.

I am really astonished by the result anyway.
hope Glenn Roeder will make right conclusions. experiments are always very dangerous and could lead to unexpected results.

meh, we wernt going to win it anyway. we would just go and draw Chelsea again, and it will be 1-0 to Chelsea with drogba scoring in the 75th minute, even though we could have scored 1 or 2.