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This is the only forum where i didn't hear that we cheated to win.

I'm glad atleast here people are clever Arrow


cheated? di natale's gol regular, scotland scored in offside

3-0 could have been more appropriate


Convenient. The free-kick for Italy's second was an unbelievable decision. One of the worst i've ever seen. Such idiocy should be treated with the death penalty.

So there was that goal, the Italian's disallowed goal that should have stood, and the Scots could have had a penalty, making the score 2-2. Scotlands goal was touch-and-go.

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this is the british fairplay, everyone on TV during the match,,italian speakers, were destroying my balls on it, "we should learn from them , and blablabla...... FUKK THEM!
I like the way I am, if this is british fairplay, always crying and accusing others if the team supported lose, searching excuses and attacking the referee EVEN if we had 1 regular goal not seen and your goal was in offside.
show respect and learn some fairplay, bad losers


*sigh* Dumb Italian f*ck. Like you'd have been happy if you'd have gone out. Yeh right. It's so easy to say all that on the back of winning.

 
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That british fans complain about the ref on this game is a joke.


You'll find it's not really the british but the scots.


CFCBhoy isn't scot..... but now that I think isn't british either Confused Then would be scots and one irish Laughing



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That british fans complain about the ref on this game is a joke.


You'll find it's not really the british but the scots.


The point still stands though. The Scots are going to be the ones complaining on this game because it's involving them. If England were involved i'm sure we'd be just as bad.

 
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That british fans complain about the ref on this game is a joke.


You'll find it's not really the british but the scots.


The point still stands though. The Scots are going to be the ones complaining on this game because it's involving them. If England were involved i'm sure we'd be just as bad.


Yes if it has happened with England english fans would do the same, I remember other games (of the national team and clubs) with english fans complaining about the ref. Then are the british and irish.

 
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Ben91 wrote:
AlucarD!! wrote:
Italianduke wrote:
This is the only forum where i didn't hear that we cheated to win.

I'm glad atleast here people are clever Arrow


cheated? di natale's gol regular, scotland scored in offside

3-0 could have been more appropriate


Convenient. The free-kick for Italy's second was an unbelievable decision. One of the worst i've ever seen. Such idiocy should be treated with the death penalty.

So there was that goal, the Italian's disallowed goal that should have stood, and the Scots could have had a penalty, making the score 2-2. Scotlands goal was touch-and-go.

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this is the british fairplay, everyone on TV during the match,,italian speakers, were destroying my balls on it, "we should learn from them , and blablabla...... FUKK THEM!
I like the way I am, if this is british fairplay, always crying and accusing others if the team supported lose, searching excuses and attacking the referee EVEN if we had 1 regular goal not seen and your goal was in offside.
show respect and learn some fairplay, bad losers


*sigh* Dumb Italian f*ck. Like you'd have been happy if you'd have gone out. Yeh right. It's so easy to say all that on the back of winning.


thats b*llocks Ben.

Italy deserved the win, were and are the better side and were victim to poor refereeing decisions just as much as the Jocks. Italy never left second gear and yet were still too much for them to handle.

instead of keeping a dignified silence and concentrating on what was a good qualifying attempt by scotland ans giving out the necessary pats on backs they lower themselves to whingeing about a free kick that was poorly given.

its sad.

 
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The decisions probably did even themselves out.

But how in the world can you justify their second goal? Please tell me. That is after all what it all really stems from, the grievous sense of injustice at the end.

 
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what are you talking about?

how have i justified it? i clearly describe the free kick as "poorly given" in my post.

the fact is, it was a free kick. not a penalty, and most certainly not a legitimite goal ruled out that the italians had. given the choice i would choose a dodgy free kick going against me. at least you can do something about that if you have an ounce of defensive ability.

like i said, its sad the jocks need to whine about it.

 
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For the goal refused for Italy and allowed for Scotland, i think that without a replay you can't see which is offside or not. It can be allowed as it could be refused. In a match there are many offsides which are not, and onsides who are not.

For the free kick at the end of the match, who has taken this decision ? the referee or the linesman ?

 
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what are you talking about?

how have i justified it? i clearly describe the free kick as "poorly given" in my post.

the fact is, it was a free kick. not a penalty, and most certainly not a legitimite goal ruled out that the italians had. given the choice i would choose a dodgy free kick going against me. at least you can do something about that if you have an ounce of defensive ability.

like i said, its sad the jocks need to whine about it.


I'm not saying you did justify it - the point is that it can't be justified. Which makes the decision much more annoying for the team it has gone against. You couldn't in a million years understand why it was given. I'm sure there would have been less whining had it not happened. Or even if it was a touch-and-go decision.

 
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its just easier to blame a match official than to admit your team are not good enough isnt it.

it was a free kick. how many dodgy free kicks are given week in week out?

i would imagine that the referee thought the defender had put his body across the ball and obstructing his opponent

 
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Ben91 wrote:
Bluenose wrote:
putrum6 wrote:
That british fans complain about the ref on this game is a joke.


You'll find it's not really the british but the scots.


The point still stands though. The Scots are going to be the ones complaining on this game because it's involving them. If England were involved I'm sure we'd be just as bad.


The point is he's saying its us brititsh and it aint its the scots. wether if it was us or not thats the point. He's just after a slaggin match with us all.

 
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after the match I was really impressed by scots, they teached the world a lesson on how to support and the players showed huge personality giving their 100%. although it wasnt enough to beat the italians who, has to be said, didnt give even their 60%. now they are just annoying me. the other linesman, the one who made 2 mistakes against Italy, could have put the Azzurri out of the Euro if Scotland scored that open chance when it was 1-1, and it would be one of the most unfair and dirty things in football in last times. the 2-1 wasnt totaly fair considerin what Scotland did, thats true, but they didnt deserve to win neither

 
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Ben91 wrote:
AlucarD!! wrote:
Italianduke wrote:
This is the only forum where i didn't hear that we cheated to win.

I'm glad atleast here people are clever Arrow


cheated? di natale's gol regular, scotland scored in offside

3-0 could have been more appropriate


Convenient. The free-kick for Italy's second was an unbelievable decision. One of the worst i've ever seen. Such idiocy should be treated with the death penalty.

So there was that goal, the Italian's disallowed goal that should have stood, and the Scots could have had a penalty, making the score 2-2. Scotlands goal was touch-and-go.

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this is the british fairplay, everyone on TV during the match,,italian speakers, were destroying my balls on it, "we should learn from them , and blablabla...... FUKK THEM!
I like the way I am, if this is british fairplay, always crying and accusing others if the team supported lose, searching excuses and attacking the referee EVEN if we had 1 regular goal not seen and your goal was in offside.
show respect and learn some fairplay, bad losers


*sigh* Dumb Italian f*ck. Like you'd have been happy if you'd have gone out. Yeh right. It's so easy to say all that on the back of winning.


another racist insult, it happens often i see
someone can ban this motherfukker?

yeah i'm happy, because at least my teams win important matches, england had to support israel to continue, and Liverpool is almost out of the Champions League



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Ben91 wrote:
AlucarD!! wrote:
Italianduke wrote:
This is the only forum where i didn't hear that we cheated to win.

I'm glad atleast here people are clever Arrow


cheated? di natale's gol regular, scotland scored in offside

3-0 could have been more appropriate


Convenient. The free-kick for Italy's second was an unbelievable decision. One of the worst i've ever seen. Such idiocy should be treated with the death penalty.

So there was that goal, the Italian's disallowed goal that should have stood, and the Scots could have had a penalty, making the score 2-2. Scotlands goal was touch-and-go.

Quote:
this is the british fairplay, everyone on TV during the match,,italian speakers, were destroying my balls on it, "we should learn from them , and blablabla...... FUKK THEM!
I like the way I am, if this is british fairplay, always crying and accusing others if the team supported lose, searching excuses and attacking the referee EVEN if we had 1 regular goal not seen and your goal was in offside.
show respect and learn some fairplay, bad losers


*sigh* Dumb Italian f*ck. Like you'd have been happy if you'd have gone out. Yeh right. It's so easy to say all that on the back of winning.


another racist insult, it happens often i see
someone can ban this motherfukker?

yeah i'm happy, because at least my teams win important matches, england had to support israel to continue, and Liverpool is almost out of the Champions League

 
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From what I have seen of the game, Scotland did create a few chances but no more than Italy did.
They did a lot of fouls as well to try to win the ball back and when they were on the ball I did not find them particularly threatening. So to say they fell robbed by the referee is harsh on the poor guy. It's more due to their own failure like falling asleep after 60 seconds or at the end of the game.

 
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For the goal refused for Italy and allowed for Scotland, i think that without a replay you can't see which is offside or not. It can be allowed as it could be refused. In a match there are many offsides which are not, and onsides who are not.

For the free kick at the end of the match, who has taken this decision ? the referee or the linesman ?



I think there was a misunderstanding between the referee and the linesman, i remenber De Rossi pushed a scottish player and after Chiellini did the same on Huton but harder, and the ball went out and i think Huton was the last player to touch it.

After i think that the linesman had his flag in the direction of the Scottish side like he showed a throw-in for Italy. I think that the referee understood that the linesman show a free kick for Italy, but the linesman was only busy with the throw-in and not the Italian fault. What do you think of that ?

I think the flag of the linesman was in direction of the scottish side but i'm not sure, do you remenber how was the flag of linesman ? Question

 
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UNLUCKY SCOTLAND ,

you gave everything you had , and it was a pleasure to watch a team give 1000%

ALL SCOTTISH FANS SHOULD FEEL PROUD, your sure to make 2010 world cup[/b]

 
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I'm not gonna complain about the referreeing because I actually thought that minus the decision at the end, he did okay.

What I will complain about though is the Italian attitude on the field, it's pathetic to be honest. They dive constantly every time anyone comes close to them and they feel that their possession is under threat, just to get a free-kick and relieve pressure. It's not just one of two players, it's near enough the whole team that does it and it's so frustrating to watch so I can't really imagine what it is like to play against them.

Also every corner or set piece where the ball is going to come into the box, the Italian's ALWAYS have their arms around the opposition and it's so blatant aswell. Now I know that this happens a lot at various teams but the worst cases I've seen have been from Italian teams e.g. Roma, Pannuci should wait until the end of games to get players shirts. I mean, it's common knowledge that some Italian people have had some 'special' feelings for members of the same sex throughout history but all this hugging, touching and groping is ridiculous.

You can see further examples of their petulent, annoying attitudes when they start to use time-wasting tactics by refusing to pick up the ball at throw-in's when it is right beside them and instead wait for the ball boy to throw them a new one. Or when the opposition want to take a free-kick and they stand in front of the ball and stall every single time even though the referee is standing there and hasn't blown his whistle, they have to be told to move time and time again. And if that wasn't enough, they feign injury and then take ages to get off the pitch and when the referee finally ushers them off they miraculously recover and are ready to come back on. And if that wasn't enough, they walk over to be substituted like they have arthritis in all their joints and that's only if they haven't pretended that they don't see their number and look around obliviously for a few moments....

Italian attitude in football pretty much makes my bloody boil, it's so petty and feminine. I hope they just shut down Serie A someday after another few people are killed and more match fixing is exposed, it's for the best.

 
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They have used these times-wasting tactics against France in the final of the WC when we were dominated and may be we could scored a goal.

 
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AlucarD!! wrote:
Ben91 wrote:
AlucarD!! wrote:
Italianduke wrote:
This is the only forum where i didn't hear that we cheated to win.

I'm glad atleast here people are clever Arrow


cheated? di natale's gol regular, scotland scored in offside

3-0 could have been more appropriate


Convenient. The free-kick for Italy's second was an unbelievable decision. One of the worst i've ever seen. Such idiocy should be treated with the death penalty.

So there was that goal, the Italian's disallowed goal that should have stood, and the Scots could have had a penalty, making the score 2-2. Scotlands goal was touch-and-go.

Quote:
this is the british fairplay, everyone on TV during the match,,italian speakers, were destroying my balls on it, "we should learn from them , and blablabla...... FUKK THEM!
I like the way I am, if this is british fairplay, always crying and accusing others if the team supported lose, searching excuses and attacking the referee EVEN if we had 1 regular goal not seen and your goal was in offside.
show respect and learn some fairplay, bad losers


*sigh* Dumb Italian f*ck. Like you'd have been happy if you'd have gone out. Yeh right. It's so easy to say all that on the back of winning.


another racist insult, it happens often i see
someone can ban this motherfukker?


yeah i'm happy, because at least my teams win important matches, england had to support israel to continue, and Liverpool is almost out of the Champions League



I must admit that he's right ben, You do go a bit far sometimes. Chill out man...
But no need for the mofo comment from our friend alucarD, although I did like his "Liverpool almost out" crack. Laughing

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