Oh how wrong you are, everyone will remember this match.

especially Spurs and united supporters.. of course.. and maybe chelski fans too.. lol..

i disagree wholeheartedly with this point.

how can you say its 'none of your business'!? it was on Live TV in front of millions of people! of course its our business. if it went on in the changing room or some other private area then any talk of it would be hearsay and speculation. the fact is we all see it and as such will discuss it! you condemn teams for playing 'rugby-like' football and then in the same breath almost suggest it is ok for a professional footballer and grown man to headbut a team mate!? warped logic methinks.

ever since wenger took over there has been countless disciplinary incidents that only seem to increase in regularity over the years, its not even just when they lose anymore. they are simply undisciplined spoilt little chavs led by a man who blames all and sundry for his teams faults

Sounded like a superb game, i personally was watching Sudan Vs Zambia. No Joke.

I don't want to make a deal of it, or a debate about the game as we were rightly hammered on the night.

But nobody expected that result and Wenger hardly bottled it. He put in Gallas because Senderos, Djourou, Touré and Song were all injured or in Ghana They are the centre backs. That's why our third choice right back [if you consider Eboué as our second strongest behind Sagna] was playing alongside Gallas in the middle.

Wenger always tends to use a First team player or two in these sort of ties. But he started with three in Hleb, Sagna and Gallas.

- Gallas started as we had nobody else [as explained above].
- Sagna started as Hoyte [the fullback] started at centre back and Diarra left for Pompey, whilst Eboué is in Ghana - who else could have played right back?
- Hleb started because again, we didn't have Eboué and Walcott was playing striker.

Cesc came into the game because Denílson went off injured, so Wenger hardly stuck him in because he "bottled it". Adebayor and Eduardo came on later in the game when the deed was done really. We were hammered and Spurs had the game wrapped up really. He hardly "bottled it" with bringing them on.

I totally bow down to the Spurs performance and admit that we were absolutely tripe - but Wenger did not bottle it by starting those three First XI players.

As for Gilberto, he is a Reserve. Cesc and Flamini are the First XI central Midfielders, whilst Denílson and Diaby are on par with Gilberto in terms of squad status now really - seeing as Gilberto has been awful this season and the two youngsters have basically surpassed him.

Wenger has a right to be proud of his backup, Reserve and youth players who have taken part in this competition. In the past two seasons we've reached a final and a semi-final, whilst we have mostly fielded non-First team players and it's been a good learning experience for all of them. Some have grown and some have shown their inability to make the step up. Getting hammered in that manner will also be a hard but very good lesson for all the players as well, so there are some positives if only a couple.

Spurs can be proud of their performance and their campaign. I can understand why all the Yids are chuffed and gloating, as it'd be the exact same the other way around. But I can't stand it when the gloating turns into b-sh*tting. Wenger fielded a fair selection out of what he had available - by giving all the available youngsters their chance in a big game - he didn't bottle it.

Do you honestly believe he doesn't know what happened? Of course he knew what happened. It's called damage control. You're not going to air out your dirty laundry for the media to make a gigantic fuss over it and make it a bigger deal than it already is. It's basically him saying, "no comment" on the issue.

The best thing is, we didnt do it how Bolton or Blackburn would by kicking them off the park.

We out-Arsenal'd Arsenal, and we demolished them doing it.

yeah.. if he already knew what happened.. and he still decided to put them in the team.. it should've been called damage uncontrolled.

Oh yes, Wenger shouldn't have brought on Adebayor in that situation because he doesn't get on with Bendtner?



Wenger hardly knew that he would headbutt his own team-mate. And I hope Wenger deals with that firmly.

lol.. nah.. i mean.. he could've either let adebayor in and taken bendtner off or otherwise.. you know what happens when guys lose their heads.. it must be something related to physical touch..

huh? Wenger isn't a mind reader or a traveler of the future. How could he have known what would happen on the pitch till it happens?

Damage control is what he's doing now by not allowing it to excelate even further by the media. We all know, if Wenger says anything, (even if it's oh, they just had a disagreement on the pitch), the media will pull that statement into millions of different directions.

This is one of those instances, that it's better to stay quiet and keep it behind closed doors instead of letting the media get a hold of it and start pinning one player against the other and so forth. That's when the chances of the team falling apart with increase. And that's what Wenger is trying to avoid by keeping his mouth shut about it and keeping it in house.

as these were 2 reserve ,b squad,kids Arsenal players where's the story? I mean these are not two Arsenal regulars now are they??







watching the fall out from this game is the funniest thing this season! .... Arsenal fans rubbishing their own squad ... Arsenal players punching each other ... And the excuses just keep coming.... its 10, no 9 no 8 years since we last beat Arsenal ....depending on which Arsenal idiot is rubbishing our record against them .... .... But never Have Arsenal beaten us as well as we beat them Last night! .

With that I would just like to add that if you actually look into this Arsenal have had one of the best disciplinary records in the Prem over the last few years.

Now run along with your tail between your legs while you investigate that.

In the meantime of course our younger players might be a little bit less disciplined to the senior ones because they are still learning the game.

Have a read of this mate, ive linked you to the page where the 3rd goes in, been reading thru most of it and its a good laugh

You might want to go do some research on that. Cause you're definitely not right on it. Both clubs have smashed the other in the past.

im talking about club discipline, from top to bottom. whingeing, bitching, fighting, punching, headbutting, spitting, complaining, blaming others, outspoken attacks, trying to get players sent off, shouting in peoples faces, ridiculing people when they miss opportunities, players rubbishing the club in the press.

my 'tail' shall remain firmly where it is (or is meant to be).

your second point is a complete cop out. is youth football littered with ill discipline? quite the opposite, youth football is among the most sporting you will find, more sporting than even friendlies. how old are players like Adebayor, Eboue, Toure, Cole (in his Arsenal days of course), Keown, Vieira to name but a few. they were among the worst in some of the problems i pointed out above.

This has to be the most honest post in this thread. Completely agree with everything J-Axe has said here.

Credit to Spurs they derserved their win and derserve the final place as we we're completely outplayed. Congratulations.... It's just funny that there's not even one Spurs fan that can admit it was a weaker side that played over the 2 legs!? The side that played last night is not the same side that is sitting joint top of the Prem at the moment and that's the fact here as already mentioned.

And as for talk that it will effect our league form? No because the senior team are still yet to be beaten since Boro.

And what Big Jono is talking about our players being bought for more than the Spurs team? You do know that Spurs are the 5th most spending club or something? in Europe don't you?

Competitiveness

And this was when these players played their best ever football that was a joy to watch!

You can't make a Omelette without breaking a few eggs.

Yes including a 5-0 beating we gave you a while back



But seriously Arsenal, you should be careful. Losses like these can derail your season, especially with the way it ended between your players.

Confidence dips a bit, Ade picks up a ban, Bendter starts sulking, Gallas goes back to his old dickhead self..... before you know it youre out of all the cups and United are streaking ahead in the league

Ha just messing with ya's, youll be fine. Win, win for me this weekend tho id love to see Newcastle get smashed but if its the other way round I could have a laugh too.

now you're just on a wind up

Yes, and there's been a few times when we gave you a 5-0 beating also. And if my memory serves me right, we gave you guys a thrashing by the score of 6-0 once. Which to my knowledge is the most lopsided match-up between the two clubs. Unfortunately, I wasn't even born or even thought about at that time.