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England down to 12th and Scotland down to 14th in the latest rankings. Ireland are 35th or something...

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Israel is up to 26 (18 in europe) which gives us a place in the 2nd pot for the World Cup qualification, just like England and Scotland Very Happy

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Greece is up to 11th (9th in Europe).

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Sticky T wrote:
Yeah but over the last couple of years they have been much better than Brazil (other than when the two play each other).


are you crazy? since 2004...
we won Copa América with our b team beatin them in the final
we finished WC qualifying ahead of them
we won Confederations Cup 2005 beating them in the final again, 4-1
we quit the WC in the same stage as them, quarterfinals
we beat them in friendly in London 3-0
we won Copa América with our B team again beatin them in the final again!! 3-0!

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They get bonus points for being Messi's team.

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marios wrote:
They get bonus points for being Messi's team.


I'd have thought Brazil would get bonus points for having Kaka.FIFA are going to give him the World Player of the Year Award even though he never does anything in the year.He is their poster boy now they've gotten over their crush for Ronaldinho.

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Laughing yeah he never does anything, apart from carry Milan on his back and gift them a Champions League trophy. Ronaldinho was the same too, they should give the prize to Lampard, Gerrard or another of the thousands cowards in decisions english players

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Gonzaga wrote:
Laughing yeah he never does anything, apart from carry Milan on his back and gift them a Champions League trophy. Ronaldinho was the same too, they should give the prize to Lampard, Gerrard or another of the thousands cowards in decisions english players


I meant to say league Embarassed

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1 Argentina 1523
2 Brazil 1502
3 Italy 1498
4 Spain 1349
5 Germany 1298
6 Czech Republic 1290
7 France 1243
8 Portugal 1241
9 Netherlands 1170
10 Croatia 1129
11 Greece 1114
12 England 1113
13 Romania 1088
14 Scotland 990
15 Mexico 982
16 Turkey 924
17 Colombia 907
18 Bulgaria 881
19 USA 876
20 Nigeria 875
21 Paraguay 873
22 Poland 862
23 Russia 861
24 Sweden 853
24 Cameroon 853
26 Israel 852
27 Serbia 844
28 Uruguay 831
29 Norway 827
30 Ukraine 824
31 Denmark 797
32 Northern Ireland 780
33 Guinea 758
34 Japan 748
35 Republic of Ireland 731
36 Finland 697
37 Côte d'Ivoire 688
38 Senegal 687
39 Egypt 686
39 Morocco 686
41 Iran 677
42 Korea Republic 663
43 Ghana 659
44 Switzerland 657
45 Chile 655
46 Mali 652
47 Tunisia 639
48 Australia 607
49 Belgium 600
50 Hungary 588



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I never understand these rankings and i dont think I ever will

Italy won the world cup and until Euro they should be #1.

Spain 4th? Doesn't make any sense.

Australia 48th? Theres a number of teams above they could beat...

I could keep going and going

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its based on wins and loses .. its a point system .. tournaments and all that add more points .. australia need to do sumthin spectacular soon to move up even slightly

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Gonzaga wrote:
Thats what I said. And who can be sure that without the penalty the aussies would win in overtime or penalties? Stop crying you guys, Australia has a lot to learn before they can beat a football foxes like italians


We beat Brazil and France in Confederations Cup without frontmen Mark Viduka and Harry Kewell, we can compete with the best...even in WC06 Brazil might have won but not very convincingly.

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Aussie_Liverpool_Fan wrote:
Gonzaga wrote:
Thats what I said. And who can be sure that without the penalty the aussies would win in overtime or penalties? Stop crying you guys, Australia has a lot to learn before they can beat a football foxes like italians


We beat Brazil and France in Confederations Cup without frontmen Mark Viduka and Harry Kewell, we can compete with the best...even in WC06 Brazil might have won but not very convincingly.


come on reagan be serious .. they are doing very well even ill admit that .. but they cant just plonk into the scene and expect to be ranked high, no doubt they will get their .. but only time will tell i guess.. i dont kno what that other guys on about either .. italy havnt done nefin since the world cup .. they shud be down more places!

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I'm not talking about rankings its just cocky brazilians claiming we're not decent nation because they claim not to remember our victories and draws against them...Australia's ranking means nothing, the system is crap...Brazil were #1 for months after the WC despite not playing any games and not even winning the tournament. We went through a slump under Graham Arnold i'll admit that but just wait and see we will be at the next WC for sure. Bring on these "world beaters" and we will beat them down.

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Aussie_Liverpool_Fan wrote:
I'm not talking about rankings its just cocky brazilians claiming we're not decent nation because they claim not to remember our victories and draws against them...Australia's ranking means nothing, the system is crap...Brazil were #1 for months after the WC despite not playing any games and not even winning the tournament. We went through a slump under Graham Arnold i'll admit that but just wait and see we will be at the next WC for sure. Bring on these "world beaters" and we will beat them down.


pim verbeek .. we will see how they go under him in the world cup qualifyers .. i think australia will show their true colours in the WC .. that is if they make it which is likely .. also i think they will equal or better their 06 WC result

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It's a joke that so many average nations are ahead of Ivory Coast. They're a top team, and i personally would rank them in or around the top 10.

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True, especially when you see the likes of Guinea ahead of them...

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Australia beat Brazil in a Confederations Cup once? so what? we won this meaningless competition twice against 0 from you guys, including a 6-0 in the final in 97 against...Australia! you guys played two World Cups in all history and only reached the second phase once, we won 5 times and beat you in the last time. Sorry I cant be bothered to discuss with australians, the difference is so huge that it lacks excitement

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Hey man probably u cant discuss with an aussie but im sure u got many things to talk with me hehe

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Not many but youre right, you guys used to create us loads of problems in the old days. You lost some firepower, but I still fear playing in Montevideo

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Gonzaga wrote:
Australia beat Brazil in a Confederations Cup once? so what? we won this meaningless competition twice against 0 from you guys, including a 6-0 in the final in 97 against...Australia! you guys played two World Cups in all history and only reached the second phase once, we won 5 times and beat you in the last time. Sorry I cant be bothered to discuss with australians, the difference is so huge that it lacks excitement


You guys are too cocky you think "We're Brazil we just have to turn up and be expected to win". Not true. Just you wait we'll show you Very Happy Brazil are a faltering team at the moment. Ronaldinho is out of form and doesn't perform for club or country, your strikers rarely score, you only managed to beat Ireland a team weaker then Australia 1-0. You can say "oh its only a friendly" but Brazil should be performing better than this.

Look i'm not arguing with you to fire you up or anything i'm just saying Australia is going to be a great footballing nation come 2010. I think We should be aiming for Quater-Finals at least!!. Nathan Burns, Bruce Djite, Matthew Spiranovic, Danny Vukovic, Adrian Leijer etc. These are all Under 23's playing in Australia (except Spiranovic and Leijer who play with Nurnberg and Fulham respectively) who are all wanted by big European clubs. The quality is there, just wait and see. Brazil's stars aren't going to burst onto the scene anytime soon except for maybe Alexandre Pato who is already making an impact at AC Milan.

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They do have Diego and Robinho though, who have recently made an impact on the footballing world in a big way. But yeah, they are too cocky.

Oh and Gonzago, what about Forlan?

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Robinho and Diego are good players but they're not exactly setting the International scence alight are they? I'm talking about club AND country like these young Aussies. Not just for club. or just for country.

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Aussie_Liverpool_Fan wrote:
You guys are too cocky you think "We're Brazil we just have to turn up and be expected to win". Not true. Just you wait we'll show you Very Happy Brazil are a faltering team at the moment. Ronaldinho is out of form and doesn't perform for club or country, your strikers rarely score, you only managed to beat Ireland a team weaker then Australia 1-0. You can say "oh its only a friendly" but Brazil should be performing better than this.

Look i'm not arguing with you to fire you up or anything i'm just saying Australia is going to be a great footballing nation come 2010. I think We should be aiming for Quater-Finals at least!!. Nathan Burns, Bruce Djite, Matthew Spiranovic, Danny Vukovic, Adrian Leijer etc. These are all Under 23's playing in Australia (except Spiranovic and Leijer who play with Nurnberg and Fulham respectively) who are all wanted by big European clubs. The quality is there, just wait and see. Brazil's stars aren't going to burst onto the scene anytime soon except for maybe Alexandre Pato who is already making an impact at AC Milan.


oh yes I've been listening that and waiting Australia to "be a great footballing nation" since I was born. And dont think you know our young players, there isnt only Pato, Diego or Robinho, these are just the most famous ones. We got plenty of exciting promises in our league but I wasnt expecting you to know them.

But, again, I wont discuss with you cause it lacks excitment. bring me a italian, german or argentinian instead

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Gonzaga wrote:
Aussie_Liverpool_Fan wrote:
You guys are too cocky you think "We're Brazil we just have to turn up and be expected to win". Not true. Just you wait we'll show you Very Happy Brazil are a faltering team at the moment. Ronaldinho is out of form and doesn't perform for club or country, your strikers rarely score, you only managed to beat Ireland a team weaker then Australia 1-0. You can say "oh its only a friendly" but Brazil should be performing better than this.

Look i'm not arguing with you to fire you up or anything i'm just saying Australia is going to be a great footballing nation come 2010. I think We should be aiming for Quater-Finals at least!!. Nathan Burns, Bruce Djite, Matthew Spiranovic, Danny Vukovic, Adrian Leijer etc. These are all Under 23's playing in Australia (except Spiranovic and Leijer who play with Nurnberg and Fulham respectively) who are all wanted by big European clubs. The quality is there, just wait and see. Brazil's stars aren't going to burst onto the scene anytime soon except for maybe Alexandre Pato who is already making an impact at AC Milan.


oh yes I've been listening that and waiting Australia to "be a great footballing nation" since I was born. And dont think you know our young players, there isnt only Pato, Diego or Robinho, these are just the most famous ones. We got plenty of exciting promises in our league but I wasnt expecting you to know them.

But, again, I wont discuss with you cause it lacks excitment. bring me a italian, german or argentinian instead


I know these other young stars I watch Brazilian football alot but have you seen that they are not being picked up by European clubs? You yourself are exactly what I said about Brazilians. Your cocky, you expect to win no matter who you play. Also you say talking with me lacks excitement but you keep replying with the same arguement, not even bringing up better points, now that really lacks excitement...

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