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I wasn't particularly impressed with Bentley either. A lot of his crosses were poor. He certainly didn't deserve all the praise he got, and he certainly wasn't ''fantastic'' which is what one of the pundits said.

Rooney worked hard and did a lot that was good, but also did a lot that wasn't and wasted chances. He isn't clinical enough or the right type of player to play on his own up front. I think he looked better in midfield.

Gerrard did okay, didn't deserve man of the match but did play a big part in both goals. Good, but nothing to write home about.

James was okay. He made a couple of good stops, but didn't look particularly convincing at the end. It was his first start for England in years though. Still, it was one of the best performances from and England goal keeper in quite some time... Simply because he didn't make a howler or a costly error, not because it was good.

Joe Cole was my pick for man of the match, and i'm usually critical of him for trying tricks and never getting anywhere. That wasn't the case yesterday. Sublime skill.

 
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Yes we did boo after 30 minutes, but I'm not sure if it was caught on telly what had actually happened. Something was said by the Swiss PA woman, and the Swiss fans went mad, and every time Ashley Cole or Jenas got the ball, they booed. So all the England fans started to boo the Swiss fans, and then every time Cashley made a mistake, he was booed by us as well (seeing as he did nothing good it seemed it was every time he got the ball)



thats pathetic.

the 'fans' should think about getting behind the new manager and encouraging the players on the pitch, that way you wouldnt even hear the Swiss fans.

this is why i would never go to an England game.

dreadful embarassing support.

booing opposition fans? whats that all about? what kind of message does that give to the players?

disgraceful, utterly disgraceful.

 
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this is why i would never go to an England game.



I echo that. I have been before and the support is embarassing. We have two songs that are quite frankly embarassing, including 'i know i am, im sure i am, im England till i die'. Really? thank god for your support. If they are not singing that its booing the team or the opposition.

I mean what sort of morons boo the players for trying to keep possesion, which is what happened on wed. England couldnt go forward so went back, kept the ball and played patiently. WOuld they rather two passes then a hoof up field? I am pretty sure what followed this paitent play was a goal attempt. Some people that attend matches are idiots.

 
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I wasn't particularly impressed with Bentley either. A lot of his crosses were poor. He certainly didn't deserve all the praise he got, and he certainly wasn't ''fantastic'' which is what one of the pundits said.

Rooney worked hard and did a lot that was good, but also did a lot that wasn't and wasted chances. He isn't clinical enough or the right type of player to play on his own up front. I think he looked better in midfield.

Gerrard did okay, didn't deserve man of the match but did play a big part in both goals. Good, but nothing to write home about.

James was okay. He made a couple of good stops, but didn't look particularly convincing at the end. It was his first start for England in years though. Still, it was one of the best performances from and England goal keeper in quite some time... Simply because he didn't make a howler or a costly error, not because it was good.

Joe Cole was my pick for man of the match, and i'm usually critical of him for trying tricks and never getting anywhere. That wasn't the case yesterday. Sublime skill.


i agree with most of this. Bentley's crossing on many occasions was poor. There is no doubting the lads ability but half the time he didnt even look up before trying to put the ball into the box. I definetly believe he can make that position his own, but he was not amazing on wed. Did have few moments where he looked fantastic. That 60 yard pass to Rooney. That neat little pass to Jenas, who should have delivered an early ball into the box. I think what hampered him was the lack of movement from the players around him at times.

Again, Gerrard was no way MOM, that was laughable. only made two real indents on the match, all be it, both improtant ones which led to goals, but a typical ENgland performance for him.

For me was very impressed with Rooney once again as with my MOM Joe Cole. Seems to always deliver for ENgland. Very consistant performer and great skill for the goal.

 
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this is why i would never go to an England game.



I echo that. I have been before and the support is embarassing. We have two songs that are quite frankly embarassing, including 'i know i am, im sure i am, im England till i die'. Really? thank god for your support. If they are not singing that its booing the team or the opposition.

I mean what sort of morons boo the players for trying to keep possesion, which is what happened on wed. England couldnt go forward so went back, kept the ball and played patiently. WOuld they rather two passes then a hoof up field? I am pretty sure what followed this paitent play was a goal attempt. Some people that attend matches are idiots.


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exactly.

there were chants of 'theres only one david beckham'. what sort of moron would chant that at a game he is not even involved in? what sort of message does that give out to the rest of the squad? are these not the same people ridiculing McClaren and Sven for the clique that existed prior to Capello's reign and the 'caps for the boys' mentality?

i swear i would have smacked somebody in the face if i was at that game and i caught somebody nearby singing that or booing.

they are clueless, brainless idiots who make me ashamed of my country even more so than the lacklustre performances of the players under McClaren.

 
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also interesting to note the minutes silence for the Munich crash lasted a mere 23 seconds because the england 'fans' disrupted it throughout.

well done boys.

 
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That's the English for you

 
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I wondered that. The guy said "and now we'll have a minutes silence bla bla bla" and we were playing after 20 seconds...

 
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they are clueless, brainless idiots who make me ashamed of my country even more so than the lacklustre performances of the players under McClaren.


You should've heard some of the comments made by the fans after the game on setanta sports news.

Things like ''same old England...terrible, just terrible.''

 
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Well i watched most of the game and my impression was that pretty much every facet of the English play was more precise and confident. They actually played like a team for periods of the game and the "long ball" was a little more restricted than usual.

Good signs.

 
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Steely Hill wrote:

they are clueless, brainless idiots who make me ashamed of my country even more so than the lacklustre performances of the players under McClaren.


You should've heard some of the comments made by the fans after the game on setanta sports news.

Things like ''same old England...terrible, just terrible.''


i would track down their name and address and ban them from ever going to an england game again.

 
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I was at the game too (no random booing though, we get enough of that at league games) dont tar all fans with the same brush, just becuase some drunk moron cant keep quiet for 60 seconds doesnt mean everyones like it.

Anways, after a (very) slow start I think the signs were promising. Im not sure how people can moan at a change of formation and/or personel we havent exactly been setting the world alite with 4-4-2 and the identical line up weve had the last couple of years or so have we?

Just look at egypt in the african cup of nations. No Eto, Drogba or Essien but they were solid and played as a team. Change can only be a good thing having failed to even qualify for euro 2008 so I for 1 hope mr Capello carrys on selecting players on merit (eg jenas) and not on reputation and does try and impliment a new formation.

Roll on paris

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