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I think Ronaldo is. Dont like the guy but his peformance this season and last have been simply sensational. He doesnt just score goals, he defends superbly and creates chances.

Messi is class, but i think if you look at what each do for there teams Ronaldo is better.

Ronaldo, Class going forward, one of the best defensive wingers in the premier league, Pace, Goals, Assists, Good in the air.

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You can say what you like about Ronaldo, but he is the most damaging player in the world.

That's why i think he is the best.

Messi is great, but if ever you want someone to change a game and get you goal, Ronaldo is the man.

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Well Mr.O Dogg you are a little bit right because I personally can't be able to watch all of matches because of I live in Turkey you know my mate Wink

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If i had the choice of any player in the world, I would choose kaka, sho in my opinion, is the best player in the world

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He is a great player really but not great as Cristiano Ronaldo is I think Wink

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hibserpool wrote:
If i had the choice of any player in the world, I would choose kaka, sho in my opinion, is the best player in the world


I think they each have the same quality, but Ronaldo is much more consistent that why i think hes the best at this point in time.

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I think you's are all brain washed by the media that are jizzing in their pants over him

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i think Scott Brown is the worlds best

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Browns not even Celtic's 5th best so keep going

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CyrilTarkwin wrote:
Great players cannot be expected to perform consistantly against the big teams as these teams have the sense to mark them out of the game.

How many times have u seen Ronaldo being marked by just one player? He always seems to have 2 or 3 players rush towards him as soon as he gets the ball.

Against world class defenders that is a very big ask!


Kaká did it against your team last season. Twice. Oh and also in the final agains Liverpool, giving a brilliant assistance to Inzaghi

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O Dogg wrote:
I personally believe that most of you don't watch the full games and only watch the highlights.


Don't be daft.

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CFCBhoy wrote:
I think you's are all brain washed by the media that are jizzing in their pants over him


This is it.

You can understand why though. The guy is a talent and he's not your typical footballer. He's got different qualities and techniques which make him stand out and now that he's using it well in a really strong side he's doing very well.

Personally I don't have a clue who is the best. There's nobody who truly stands out for me or has the real consistency or quality to be singled out as the best. But then again I don't watch every single player week in, week out.

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CyrilTarkwin wrote:
O Dogg wrote:
I personally believe that most of you don't watch the full games and only watch the highlights.


Don't be daft.

You'd better take care of your behaviours my mate Wink
How do you dare to talk with Mr.O Dogg like that?

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Gonzaga wrote:
CyrilTarkwin wrote:
Great players cannot be expected to perform consistantly against the big teams as these teams have the sense to mark them out of the game.

How many times have u seen Ronaldo being marked by just one player? He always seems to have 2 or 3 players rush towards him as soon as he gets the ball.

Against world class defenders that is a very big ask!


Kaká did it against your team last season. Twice. Oh and also in the final agains Liverpool, giving a brilliant assistance to Inzaghi


Kaka was sh*t in the final.

Mascherano had him in his back pocket all game long.

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J-Axe wrote:
CFCBhoy wrote:
I think you's are all brain washed by the media that are jizzing in their pants over him


This is it.

You can understand why though. The guy is a talent and he's not your typical footballer. He's got different qualities and techniques which make him stand out and now that he's using it well in a really strong side he's doing very well.


The media always plays a part. But Ronaldo is so deadly, and pops up so often to win games for Man Utd he is there on merit, and not just media hype.

Ronaldo is going to go missing in games. He is a winger, and a flair player after all. That's always going to happen. It's when those sort of players turn it on that they earn their wage. Ronaldo turns it on a lot more than most. When he goes a few games without a goal people make a point of mentioning that, such is the prolificacy of him now. People are shocked when he goes only a few games without a goal, and he isn't even a striker FFS!

Man Utd's highest ever scoring winger or non striker in a single season is George Best, with either 32 or 33 goals (i can't remember which it is). Ronaldo already has 30 goals, and this is in an era with fewer goals, so that shows what an achievement his goal tally is. Just look at how much of a legend Best is - generally regarded as the best ever British player. Ronaldo looks certain to beat one of Best's best records.

Is he bordering on greatness?

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He's alrite he's a good finisher Ronaldo thats it. Messi is the man. Also I think Torres has to get mention aswell.

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I would've picked Ronaldo over Kaka last year. I think he was easily the best player in the world. Same for this year!

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I thought Ronaldo was better last year.

Now, i think he absolutely obliterates him.

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I watch plenty of Man U games, here in Aussie every Premiership game is available to watch, when they are on at the same time you have the choice of which one to watch. When Spurs arent on I usually watch Man U, partly to see Ronaldo but mostly cos of the football they play, unless theres a good match on.

I think it is presumptuous and a bit patronising to write off everyones opinions that are different to your own as being because they only watch highlights (O Dogg) or from media hype (CFCBhoy)

People are quite capable of making up their own minds on issues like this and just because they are different to yours doenst make them invalid for some reason like that. Ever considered YOU might be the one that is wrong?

Also, ive noticed most of those in this thread shooting down others opinions on who is the best havent even given their own opinions. Atleast we are putting our balls to the wall and making a decision for the sake of the topic, not just shooting down others offerings.

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Well said Jono.

I'm assuming your pick is Ronaldo Jono?

Or haven't you put your balls on the line?

I can't be bothered to check the first page.

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Yea I think Ronaldo is the best, ive thought about it for a while but started saying it on here a few months ago.

Was told then it was only good form, but seeing as this form seems to be permanent now the other arguments are coming out that im only basing it on imperfect information, of which people like O Dogg obviously has access to better information on the subject to me.

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Big Revolution wrote:
CyrilTarkwin wrote:
O Dogg wrote:
I personally believe that most of you don't watch the full games and only watch the highlights.


Don't be daft.

You'd better take care of your behaviours my mate Wink
How do you dare to talk with Mr.O Dogg like that?


easy mate.. =)
o dogg has a point.. we can't really decide if we just stick to the highlights where only good parts are shown..

kaka is no longer the best as he can't do much to his team.. the best player should refer to someone with consistent performance in each match.. score goals or do passings to win matches..

ronaldo is close enough to the definition at the moment..

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Big Jono wrote:
I watch plenty of Man U games, here in Aussie every Premiership game is available to watch, when they are on at the same time you have the choice of which one to watch. When Spurs arent on I usually watch Man U, partly to see Ronaldo but mostly cos of the football they play, unless theres a good match on.

I think it is presumptuous and a bit patronising to write off everyones opinions that are different to your own as being because they only watch highlights (O Dogg) or from media hype (CFCBhoy)

People are quite capable of making up their own minds on issues like this and just because they are different to yours doenst make them invalid for some reason like that. Ever considered YOU might be the one that is wrong?

Also, ive noticed most of those in this thread shooting down others opinions on who is the best havent even given their own opinions. Atleast we are putting our balls to the wall and making a decision for the sake of the topic, not just shooting down others offerings.


Your missing the point mate. You speak with a majority of Manchester United fans who see the games, and most will tell you that he isnt even the best player in the Manchester United squad. I would say Rooney was a more important player for us, and Evra in my opinion has been our player of the season so far - but no point in getting into that debate. Ronaldo isn't a team player at all, yes he scores a bag full of goals, but so what? So did Thierry Henry and you aswell as many others still slated Henry for not performing in the big games. Nobody apart from Arsenal fans rated him as the best player in the world - why not? Because he played for Arsenal? I would go as far as saying Henry in his prime at Arsenal was a better all round player than Ronaldo is right now.

I also mentioned that I believed most people on here who think Ronaldo is the best player in the world probably only watch the highlights - which I stick by. Sticky T doesn't even watch the Liverpool games, so what are the chances of him sitting down and watching United?

Ronaldo probably will win the Player of the Year however...I have no doubt. They love a Ronaldo type player.

I don't know who is the best player in the world to tell you the truth though. Kaka is still an amazing player, and is still right up there - but the chips are down at Milan, they are 5th in the league, and when a team isn't winning, players don't stand out. If Ronaldo was in a Liverpool team, I am almost certain people wouldn't be calling him the best player in the world - but that is not something I can prove.

It is not about not having the balls to nominate a player myself, as how can I possibly do that without watching equal amounts of each player? I voted Kaka last year as I actually got to see alot of him, and he was outstanding compared to anyone else out there. This season I haven't seen so much of him, and same goes for Messi. I haven't seen enough of him to see where he is at compared to the others.

What I have seen though is Ronaldo. I have seen him week in week out. Some games he has been outstanding, others he has been terrible. He is one of the most frustrating players to watch throughout a game. I like him very much, and wouldn't want him to leave us, however I think alot of people do over rate him slightly.

Would you say I was wrong in making the assumption that the majority of fans who rate Ronaldo as the best player in the world, would only get to see the highlights of his games?

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To add to this, Ronaldo may score alot of goals, but anyone who says he assists alot of incorrect. He very rarely sets up goals these days. Only 3 Assists in the league this season. When you compare that with the likes of Fabregas who has 13 Assists, you can see the difference. Ronaldo isn't a team player, he prefers to go alone which is why he gets so many goals.

Guti has had an outstanding season so far for Real Madrid, but nobody mentions him. Why? Because he has only scored 5 goals and is a totally different type player. He has however 22 assists to his name in 19 league games. To me, that is every bit as impressive as Ronaldo's goals.

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Fair enough O Dogg but seeing as you watch Ronaldo week in week out you do get to see his flat games and the parts of his performances that frustrate you and other fans. However you admit that you havent seen much at all of Kaka and Messi etc (im not saying ive seen much more) but if you had do you think you would have a lot more ammunition for taking points off their highlight reels?

I know you arent saying one of them is the best but you are saying Ronaldo isnt based on the inconsistencies youve witnessed every week, when you dont know if any other player in the world is any better. Ronaldo isnt perfect but it doesnt mean hes not the best as noone is, he just has to be better than the others overall.

Damn i rambled.

Anywho, and i have no idea as to the relation of those who think hes the best and those who dont as to which ones watch highlights and which ones watch full games, i dont see a pattern here so cant say.

Kaka no longer the 'best player in the world'
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