Or when you've won more Champions League trophies in the space of 6 years than Barca have in their entire history.

Anyway, marios, i said IF because i very much doubt Barca will progress to the final, so them meeting earlier in the competition goes down to luck of the draw.

Is it the goal at the start of the video you posted? The one where he does the reverse leg kick thing? I can't be, can it?!

I don't know which one you're talking about.

the last one that hits of a Madril player and they claim it's offside

6 of your CL and half of your league trophies were won during the Franco era

don't you Real fans ever get bored with receiving the same reply every time you post about your past "achievements"?

[beep!] you, we#'ve still won more in 6 years than yo've wonin yor entire history.

So what? Was Franco influent in Europe? man you don't know what you're saying.
Both of Barcelona's Champions League were won during the socialist government...

And the season before Rivaldo scored that goal in the Bernabeu, Sergi stopped a goal with his hand in the Camp Nou. The final result was 2-2. It was exactly the same thing.

talking about players stopping goals with their hand, remember this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvmXAgjx7so

No, but I remember this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kb7Jpp5b3Kw

David

madrid may have won what they won 50 years go, the fact now is that in 2 years they spent 230 millions and they always have been kicked off before the quarter finals, its about the 4th year that this happens sequentially
and Madrid fans still talks about CL won long long long ago, dont you have better argumentations?those are black N white emotions

maybe it was black and white in Italy, but we already had colour TV's in Spain between 1998 and 2002, when we won 3 tittles. How many have you won in the last 10 years?

you can clearly see in the video that had Messi let the ball go over him Eidur was on the left post ready to tap it in. that would have been a clear goal but Messi just made it a controversial/illegal one.

that video i posted above though is pretty ridiculous. Carlos stopped the ball with his hand (thus denying Olympiacos a clear goal - and for that i thank him!) and the ref gave nothing.

anyway, let's stop this silly argument. let's just agree that you guys suck and get on with our lives.

10 years?

5 times

http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Associazione_Calcio_Milan

When you bring money into the game of football, you also bring politics into it too.

I watch most of the spanish games that are on sky, take the real madrid match last night for example.
Raul was tugged outside the box, the infridgment clearly started outside the box, yet in his wisdom, the referee chose to award Real Madrid a penalty.

As a referee i would love to say that Spanish referee's are not biased, although i tend to feel that from what i have witnessed, those people who shout about the top two teams getting favours may well have enough evidence to make a convincing case.

Is the Spanish league dirtier? and are the referee's poorer?

I watched spanish games where i would have given out about 8 yellow cards yet the referee has only brandished two. other games i tend to agree with the referee's handling of the game, that being said, both the spanish league and Premiership are guilty of being too lenient of one offence.....dissent.

I have watched far too many games where Spanish players have surrounded the referee and tried to intmidate him with their antics and the referee hasn't done anything about it....thus sending out the message to the amateur leagues that it is Okay to try and intimidate referee's.

Other players have used hand gestures and shouted at the referee in a manner that is clear dissent and yet the referee chose to do nothing. In the premiership it is even worse, i have watched players blatantly argue with referee's and the walk away and mouth (clearly for the camera) That is a fuc*ing sh*t decision.

Rooney_79586.shtml'>Wayne Rooney should have been sent off a couple of years ago for his antics with one of the referee's and didn't even get a yellow card.

Although the thing that is creeping into the game is blatant diving, Fifa brought in the rule about simulation to stop this happening, some referee's in Spain are actually cautioning for diving, but in England you would think the rule didn't exist.

Christiano Ronaldo's first season saw him lying flat on his face more times than he managed to stay on his feet, between fellow referee's and i, we would discuss how whenever ronaldo got anywhere near the 18 yard box he dropped like a stone without even a hint of contact.

discussion through the rank and file of referee's have highlighted the need for professional referee's to be tougher on certain decisions although it seems that some referee's want to shy away from inforcing the rules that they are paid to enforce.

maybe some of the supporters of the professional teams should take a trip down to their public park and count the number of cards that an amateur referee dishes out in any given match then maybe they might stop all the conspiracy theory nonsense....

The defender starts touching raul outside the box, but he pulls his shirt INSIDE of it.
In the barcelona game, the ref canceled a legal goal to Senna. Villarreal managed to beat them though

Exactly mate Reial Madril are nothing they are little club just as a propaganda tool to promote fascism, before Franco Reial were nothing! Madrid started to win tittles during times of the fascist uprise!

Hahaha funny. We won 6 Champions Leagues because of Franco, because as we all know, He was not the dictator of Spain, he was the dictator of the whole Europe
But who cares Barcelona has won all their tittles under socialist governments, that's lame. Now Zapatero must be sad, Madrid are gonna win la Liga, but thanks to Franco, he's been 33 years dead but still rules Europe