that without ronaldo, Man Utd would be Aston Villa. They are so dependent on him it's unbelieveable, for an elite european club. I know all teams would be worse without ther best player, but it's off the charts with this team, imo. What say you?

lol no chance. They would still be top four.

Villa.

Without the ponce I doubt they'd be were they are today. As much as it pains me to say, he's having a crackin' season & lets be honest, he's had to as Shrek & Ugly aint doin' much up front

Don't know if it's true , because I can't be bothered to trawl the season's results to verify it but ; apparently if you take Ronaldo's goals away , Man Utd would be 5th in the Premiership .

Man Utd would still be winning the league without Ronaldo. Man Utd are bigger than any individual player. They could replace him any time, same goes for the boy wonder Rooney and still be as good.

Utd wouldn't be top if wasn't for Ronny , he's having his best season yet. We can't keep relying on him to score , if he gets injured we're in trouble. The strikers need to step up and start scoring.

Yes but if you leave Ronaldo out then they only have 10 players. If Ronaldo wasn't in the team you bet they would have a player that could fill his boots.

I ABSOLUTELY love this trend now...

We've gone from "he's not a big game player", to "United are a one man team", it's hilarious.

If Ronaldo wasn't there we'd find another player to replace him. Just like with Cantona, Robson, Keane, even Ruud etc. it's all been said before but the doubters have been proved wrong time and time again.

I never said he wasn't a big game player. And I didn't say United wouldnt replace him. I'm just talking about who they have now.

Nope. Its showing how the other players in the squad have under performed this season while spotty has performed....

Absolutely correct.

So you think that if Ronaldo wasn't at United, then they wouldn't be in the top 6? And I suppose that goals conceded total of 15 would double because everyone knows that Ronaldo holds that together aswell.

I think you're talking out of your arse to be quite frank, that's not how football works at all. You think that if Ronaldo wasn't at United, the only difference would be that Ronaldo isn't playing every week? You don't think that the other top players in the team would compensate for that, the manager wouldn't change his set up? Quite naive.

I have two words for you Joe, Thierry Henry

Wronnnnnnnnng. It's when you take away Rooney the results are bad. I think they've only lost when Rooney isn't playing.

Or Ive probably read it wrong, as always.

What the f*ck are you on about Forev? Without Ronaldo United would obviously be playing with 10 players and would have over half the goal difference they do now...

It made me chuckle earlier in the season when some bright spark decided to see how we'd do without Fernando Torres and Gerrard in the side - and, surprise surprise, we were something like 11th. Well yeh, it's kind of difficult playing with 9 players and missing your two top scorers.

In fairness, it would be difficult to replace Ronaldo, but there's more than enough class in that side to rise and fill the gap. Plus they'd of signed a class right-winger, and perhaps with the money would have signed an out-and-out striker too, which arguably could have put them in a more balanced position.

Yes they're quite reliant on the Portuguese man but what big team doesn't have players that stand out? It comes with the territory of having world class players.

If Ronaldo were at say Derby co. Would Derby be where Villa are?

I'm asking those that think Ronaldo is a one man team?

Wrong, Rooney made a great contributing for Portsmouth to help them defeat Man U recently. He was the one that made a catastrophic error by running toward Kranjar even though Anderson was running towards him, and when Roney should stay with Baros. He didn't, Kranjar passed between the two to Baros who was completely open and one on one with the keeper, which resulted in him knocking it past him and getting fouled. Goak Keeper gets sent off, Portsmouth score the penalty and Man Utd lose.

Anyway, i don't know how you can say that when Man U haven't had to worry about missing Ronaldo in the last two season's because the guy just doesn't get injured. The longest he was out for was 3 matches because of a suspension. Man U really struggled without him.

Man U would still be a top 4 team without him, but they wouldn't be leading in the title race, and they certainly wouldn't have won the league last season.

He has provided more goals than all of Man U's strikers put together. It's about time they start firing.

Wrong. United's slow start to the season had nothing to do with him. The 3 matches he was missing we won 2 and drew 1.

I read it before the Portsmouth game.

Fair enough. But still, that statistic was largely coincidental .

Man Utd will still be regular title challengers without Ronaldo - no doubt about it.

Fergie would simply adapt the way they play so it would suit other key players in their side. Maybe he signed Nani as a direct replacement for Ronaldo when he makes the inevitable move to Estadio Santiago Bernabeu.

Ronaldo's finishing his career at Old Trafford, everyone knows this!

Just like Berbatov is with us

Are you being sarcastic or serious?

The question should be how good would ronaldo be without man u.
With the supporting cast he has his job is easy,and the question will never be answered because he will never go to a club that depends solely on him.Yes he's scoring at will right now,but when teams have to worry about other players like Saha ,Rooney,tevez as well as Ronaldo his job is made much easier.
That's why teams who can only afford two good defenders have trouble against United and ronaldo benefits.But what's his numbers like against Arsenal,Chelsea or Liverpool?

Saha proved himself with an ordinary team like fulham that didn't have great midfield service.When he left Fulham he was one of the top two scorers in the epl and he scored against every team not just bottom dwellers.

drogba proved himself when "legend "schevchenko" couldn't buy a goal.Drogba quite basically was Chelsea's only attack.He was also the top scorer or second in the French league when he left for Chelsea.

Rooney proved himself while he was at Everton as a youngster in very big games.

The fact that Ronaldo has had trouble in the majority of big games should be a barometer on which to really judge him,and not games against Derby,reading etc.

Ronaldo is a good player ,but special i don't think so.He's a midfileder with no assists in the Champions League!
In fact i think man u might be better without him,they would be more of a unit with less ego.