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Man Utd will still be regular title challengers without Ronaldo - no doubt about it.

Fergie would simply adapt the way they play so it would suit other key players in their side. Maybe he signed Nani as a direct replacement for Ronaldo when he makes the inevitable move to Estadio Santiago Bernabeu.

 
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Laughing Ronaldo's finishing his career at Old Trafford, everyone knows this!

 
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Just like Berbatov is with us Wink

 
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Are you being sarcastic or serious?

 

Re: How good would MU be without Ronaldo? I say.....

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JoeVols wrote:
that without ronaldo, Man Utd would be Aston Villa. They are so dependent on him it's unbelieveable, for an elite european club. I know all teams would be worse without ther best player, but it's off the charts with this team, imo. What say you?


The question should be how good would ronaldo be without Man U.
With the supporting cast he has his job is easy,and the question will never be answered because he will never go to a club that depends solely on him.Yes he's scoring at will right now,but when teams have to worry about other players like Saha ,Rooney,tevez as well as Ronaldo his job is made much easier.
That's why teams who can only afford two good defenders have trouble against United and ronaldo benefits.But what's his numbers like against Arsenal,Chelsea or Liverpool?

Saha proved himself with an ordinary team like fulham that didn't have great midfield service.When he left Fulham he was one of the top two scorers in the epl and he scored against every team not just bottom dwellers.

drogba proved himself when "legend "schevchenko" couldn't buy a goal.Drogba quite basically was Chelsea's only attack.He was also the top scorer or second in the French league when he left for Chelsea.

Rooney proved himself while he was at Everton as a youngster in very big games.

The fact that Ronaldo has had trouble in the majority of big games should be a barometer on which to really judge him,and not games against Derby,reading etc.

Ronaldo is a good player ,but special i don't think so.He's a midfileder with no assists in the Champions League!
In fact i think Man U might be better without him,they would be more of a unit with less ego.

 
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Well, he was part of the team of the tournament in the CL last season as far as i'm aware, and isn't he top scorer in it this season?

He has scored against Lyon, Roma (twice) and Milan in their last 3 knockout ties. Not bad!

 
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Ronaldo's taking over Gerrard's role at Liverpool...that being carrying the team. Utd, have a great team with fantastic players(a lot of them I don't like for my own reasons....but they are good). Seems like the rest of UTD's team isn't really pulling their weight....Tevez....omg, what a waste...he should have stayed at West Ham.

Gerrard's definately gotten support now...so he's no longer in that carrying the team role.

 
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OWEN_ENG wrote:
Ronaldo's taking over Gerrard's role at Liverpool...that being carrying the team. Utd, have a great team with fantastic players(a lot of them I don't like for my own reasons....but they are good). Seems like the rest of UTD's team isn't really pulling their weight....Tevez....omg, what a waste...he should have stayed at West Ham.

Gerrard's definately gotten support now...so he's no longer in that carrying the team role.


I dont even know where to start with that drivel, ill let Forev do it.

 
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Big Jono wrote:
OWEN_ENG wrote:
Ronaldo's taking over Gerrard's role at Liverpool...that being carrying the team. Utd, have a great team with fantastic players(a lot of them I don't like for my own reasons....but they are good). Seems like the rest of UTD's team isn't really pulling their weight....Tevez....omg, what a waste...he should have stayed at West Ham.

Gerrard's definately gotten support now...so he's no longer in that carrying the team role.


I dont even know where to start with that drivel, ill let Forev do it.


Laughing i agree with him, Tevez should have stayed at West Ham

 
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United would neveer be where they are without Ronaldo. He has definitley carried them for their entire 16 Premiership titles

 
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Steely Hill wrote:
Big Jono wrote:
OWEN_ENG wrote:
Ronaldo's taking over Gerrard's role at Liverpool...that being carrying the team. Utd, have a great team with fantastic players(a lot of them I don't like for my own reasons....but they are good). Seems like the rest of UTD's team isn't really pulling their weight....Tevez....omg, what a waste...he should have stayed at West Ham.

Gerrard's definately gotten support now...so he's no longer in that carrying the team role.


I dont even know where to start with that drivel, ill let Forev do it.


Laughing i agree with him, Tevez should have stayed at West Ham


LOL you would, and I think Berbatov should have stayed at Spurs, oh wait HE DID. Very Happy

 
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United would neveer be where they are without Ronaldo. He has definitley carried them for their entire 16 Premiership titles


Exactly Very Happy

 
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Big Jono wrote:
OWEN_ENG wrote:
Ronaldo's taking over Gerrard's role at Liverpool...that being carrying the team. Utd, have a great team with fantastic players(a lot of them I don't like for my own reasons....but they are good). Seems like the rest of UTD's team isn't really pulling their weight....Tevez....omg, what a waste...he should have stayed at West Ham.

Gerrard's definately gotten support now...so he's no longer in that carrying the team role.


I dont even know where to start with that drivel, ill let Forev do it.


Laughing I'm completely sick of it to be honest, every forum has these threads cropping up.... "Ronaldo is masking United's problems", "He's carrying the team", etc.....

The only reason Ronaldo is scoring the goals he is, is because of the fact that the team is playing to him and he has the absolute freedom to do and try whatever he feels like. One indication of this is the number of assists he has, it's really very low and that's because he is now the focal point of the attack, he's the one people aim for. Without the team set up around Ronaldo like Fergie has made it at United, Ronaldo wouldn't be the same player. I believe that's why in big games he doesn't put in the performances he's expected to because the rest of the team has more focus on the opposition and they cannot provide for Ronaldo and support him like they would against a lesser team.

But to be honest, I don't really care what everyone says about him. I have my own opinion of him which I've stated numerous times but If he gets top goalscorer in the league and Champions League and United win both or even just the league then.... Very Happy

 
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Did you know that Ronaldo has had something like 104 Premier League shots and Torres has had just around 82? Kind of shows how much United base their attacking game around him.

 
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Or how much more of an attacking team United are

 
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United are a great team, without a doubt and it is all very well to say they would replace Ronaldo if he left but what if he suffered a long term injury and replacement wasn't an option?
Being as Ronaldo is top 3 in the world and playing like it, it is natural that most of their play goes through him. I think if he was put out, long term, Rooney would step up and fill the void to a degree but it would need a big step up to cover all Ronaldo's goals and assists. It is impossible to say if they would still be leading the Prem but I think they would still be challenging.

 
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CFCBhoy wrote:
Or how much more of an attacking team United are


Yet we've scored more goals than them (and anyone) in all competitions. Mabye we're more clinical? Who knows?

 
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CFCBhoy wrote:
Or how much more of an attacking team United are


Yet we've scored more goals than them (and anyone) in all competitions. Mabye we're more clinical? Who knows?


Only because you've had a few freak results, consistently Manchester United are more attacking than Liverpool.

 
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Indeed you are. But not so much so that it justifies your winger having 25% more strikes than our out-and-out main striker.

 
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I think our league position and his standing in the goal charts domestically and in europe justifies that, to be fair.

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