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You say making the play go through Drogba, but he has been away for much of the season, which gives a better indication of the job Grant has done.

Last season without Drogba Chelsea would've been well off the pace. Oh and let's not forget that Grant coped just fine without Lampard, and all the African's when they were away.

 
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i seem to recall a few Arsenal fans saying they were pleased with getting a point at Wigan and Villa.

still think thats the case!?

wenger has blown it and i couldnt be happier. he does not deserve any silverware.


Laughing

Any Arsenal fan who said that can't fool us, no way. Yes, they've had a good season up to recently and exceeded everyone's pre season expectations yadda yadda yadda...but after being in such a strong position they'll probably end up third now. They've completely bottled it, Kevin Keegan style. As I predicted ages ago, Arsenal's challenge would die out and Man Utd will win the Premiership - they haven't yet but I'm in no doubt that they will.


Arsenal aren't out of the title race mathematically but based on form and momentum at this critical point of the season I will rule them out. Chelsea are hanging in there just. It's a 5 point deficit on leaders Man Utd but in reality it's 6 points - they won't make up that goal difference.


well of course i was not happy with a point in our last four games ....but at the time it was better than nothing .. I know we have thrown away our chance of the title and it really hurts as we were in prime position just 3 or 4 weeks ago ...only a Champions League win will stop me from judging this season a major dissapointment for Arsenal ....

 
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Next time they go on about how great a player like J.Cole,Lampard,Ronaldo etc are, tell them to look at this game and watch a true big game player,Drogba.

you certainly have an obsession towards drogba and grudge against others.. oh right.. i forgot you loved Chelsea.. my bad.. Laughing

Not really,just into facts, especially when it makes thee sensationalist morons look stupid.


This game had more at stake than the Liverpool/Man U game because both teams are still in the title race
Drogba played big and Ronaldo still couldn't have his usual performance even against 10 men,what a joke.

erm.. do you expect ronaldo to score a hattrick against Liverpool?.. Laughing

Well that's been my point all along ,big game and he struggled for the entire game.Bigger game and drogba saves Chelsea's hide *ss again.

As they say Ronaldo couldn't carry Drogba's jockstrap.There are those that see the game for what it is and those that get distracted by media hype and misleading stats against meaningless opponents.

I think it's safe to say that Adebayor is not in Drogba's league either.

for once.. i agree with your words.. adebayor's not supposed to be among the top-scorer.. in my opinion.. such a shame that drogba's off for injuries in the beginning of the season.. and then his absence during the african cup.. otherwise i could see his name in the place of adebayor.. Very Happy

On another note it seems Arsenal's title race is almost over and now maybe they can try and concentrate on Champions League,but my guess is that the squad is too thin right now.If they were playing a non British team for the Euro crown they would have a better chance but against Liverpool is going to be tough with so many injuries.

well.. okay.. losing the carling cup.. more concentration on fa and cl and league.. then losing the fa cup.. more concentration on the cl and league cup.. now about to lose the league cup.. should try to concentrate more on the cl cup.. what if you don't make it for the cl cup either?.. Razz


If it weren't for injuries they would be up for every competition.As the games went on it was obvious that Arsenal had to decide which title they were going for .I still believe they want the EPL title and more importantly the Champions League,because it's the only thing they haven't won.If i were them i would concentrate with the Champions League ,because they are incredibly weak right now.

 
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What morons a certain amount of Cheslea fans are. You are 1-0 down in such a big game with a lot of time left, and they then begin to chant the name of the former manager. Thats really going to inspire such confidence in the players and Grant isn't it? I hear Chelsea fans as well calling up radio phone ins saying that anyone with half a brain would have thrown on Anelka and someone else at that point, so it does seem as though Grant simply cannot win. He brought Belleti on for Ballack so Essien could take up a place in the Midfield and it worked. He played it cool, did not panic and stuck to what he thought was right, which i respect.


F*cking agreed.
they make me sick and among other things are one of the reasons i sometimes root against Chelsea ,i'm sorry i just can't help it.I'm not sure about Grant myself ,but that chanting was below the belt and not constructive in any way.That's why i have been wanting Drogba to leave that club.

 
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Good post Immortal, 4 points from the last 15 possible really is throwing the title away IMO.


Thanks Jono Smile

Sadly, what you said is true. 4 points from 5 games is simply unacceptable. We had the title in our hands and we could've put a great fight and come out on top, but we threw it all away easily and now not only is the title ManU's to throw away, we allowed Chelsea to take the second spot too and we just couldn't get the results recently. This has to change from the very next game IMO to sustain the title challenge(Mathematically atleast) or atleast finish the season in the strong way possible with taking maximum points they can. Sad

 
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If it weren't for injuries they would be up for every competition.As the games went on it was obvious that Arsenal had to decide which title they were going for .I still believe they want the EPL title and more importantly the Champions League,because it's the only thing they haven't won.If i were them i would concentrate with the Champions League ,because they are incredibly weak right now.


Not making excuses here, Arsenal went into their shell at 1-0, Chelsea hit back and deserved the win. However, another bad decision against them let Chelsea equalize. 3 games in a row bad decisions may have cost at least 5 points.

I do agree they are weak at this moment and I think you are right, they will concentrate on the CL. The trouble with that, we've seen how they perform when not interested and it's possible they could get overhauled by Liverpool for 3rd now.

 
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the only reason why we lost that match was kolo toure i think.he made two big errors and drogba scored...senderos is playing much better than kolo nowdays

 
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the only reason why we lost that match was kolo toure i think.he made two big errors and drogba scored...senderos is playing much better than kolo nowdays


awww i like Kolo, i think hes good.

i just dont understand why Eboue is starting ahead of Walcott. it seems silly

 
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Walcott is not strong enough yet, he is still young.

 
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Walcott is not strong enough yet, he is still young.


lol you sound like a jedi...but anywho...i know hes young, but eboue is a joke and a complete waste of space most of the time. think theo should at least get a chance to start sometimes. if it doesnt work then he can go straight back on the bench Smile

 
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I think Eboue is bit mono-dimensional as well in his play but Theo really needs to beef up because he cannot really compete on strentgh and power against strong defenders while Eboue can ( when he does not fall over). Theo has actually started 15 games and came 15 times as a sub.

 
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Theo has actually started 15 games and came 15 times as a sub.


i wondered why wengers arms were constantly thrusting up and down on the bench.

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that explains it

 
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I think Eboue is bit mono-dimensional as well in his play but Theo really needs to beef up because he cannot really compete on strentgh and power against strong defenders while Eboue can ( when he does not fall over). Theo has actually started 15 games and came 15 times as a sub.


but would he be so speedy if he bulked up?! either way, in my opinion he should start ahead of Eboue...not saying its right, just what i think should happen Smile

 
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I think Eboue is bit mono-dimensional as well in his play but Theo really needs to beef up because he cannot really compete on strentgh and power against strong defenders while Eboue can ( when he does not fall over). Theo has actually started 15 games and came 15 times as a sub.


but would he be so speedy if he bulked up?! either way, in my opinion he should start ahead of Eboue...not saying its right, just what i think should happen Smile


That's Tony Colbert job to make sure he does not loose is speed Wink
If Eboue underperforms constanlty it's fair to give him a chance but as soon as Rosicky is back from injury Hleb will come back on the right wing anyway.

 
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Walcott should start ahead of Eboue. Walcott is weaker strength wise, but his play in the last few games has been far better than Eboue. Keeping him on the bench and bringing him on as a sub in every match from now on will just derail his confidence once again and halt his great progress as of late. Wenger needs to play him while he's flying high at the moment. In the last few games he's finally made the right decision while playing, has put in the right ball/pass into the box and so forth. Even Capello has noticed it and has chosen him for the England squad against France. Not to mention Walcott has the ability to score unlike Eboue who couldn't hit a dead ball on target from the 6 yard box.

The Sagna/Eboue partnership has been poor as of late. During the Chelsea game, Eboue would get in the way of Sagna on multiple times. I clearly remember on one counterattack, Sagna was streaking up the pitch with the ball, and Eboue decides to run alongside (outside) him, in return pushing Sagna further in towards the middle of the pitch and right into the two defenders coming to close him down. In essence Eboue boxed Sagna in on that occasion and became a 3rd defender for Chelsea.

The only thing Eboue has over Walcott (other than strength) would be his ability to defend. However, Walcott did track back and stop Kaka in his tracks. Wink So not all is lost on the defensive side with Walcott. And Sagna is more than capable to sitting back and defending the right. He does it when Hleb plays on that side, don't see why he couldn't handle the task with Walcott being in front of him.

 
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Walcott should start ahead of Eboue. Walcott is weaker strength wise, but his play in the last few games has been far better than Eboue. Keeping him on the bench and bringing him on as a sub in every match from now on will just derail his confidence once again and halt his great progress as of late. Wenger needs to play him while he's flying high at the moment. In the last few games he's finally made the right decision while playing, has put in the right ball/pass into the box and so forth. Even Capello has noticed it and has chosen him for the England squad against France. Not to mention Walcott has the ability to score unlike Eboue who couldn't hit a dead ball on target from the 6 yard box.

The Sagna/Eboue partnership has been poor as of late. During the Chelsea game, Eboue would get in the way of Sagna on multiple times. I clearly remember on one counterattack, Sagna was streaking up the pitch with the ball, and Eboue decides to run alongside (outside) him, in return pushing Sagna further in towards the middle of the pitch and right into the two defenders coming to close him down. In essence Eboue boxed Sagna in on that occasion and became a 3rd defender for Chelsea.

The only thing Eboue has over Walcott (other than strength) would be his ability to defend. However, Walcott did track back and stop Kaka in his tracks. Wink So not all is lost on the defensive side with Walcott. And Sagna is more than capable to sitting back and defending the right. He does it when Hleb plays on that side, don't see why he couldn't handle the task with Walcott being in front of him.


even his defence has been shocking lately! he gets on my nerves because he just either misplaces every pass or he completely overruns with the ball and then loses it anyway. definitely agree with you saying that keeping theo on the bench wont help his confidence!

 
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I sometimes find Eboue a bit predictable.

If Sagna is coming on the outside, 9/10 he will play the ball to him rather than taking the option to run on the inside and create something on his own, now I'm not saying that going outside is a bad option, but I think it is when defenders pretty much can anticipate what Eboue will do in those situations.

Walcott has the ability to drift in and out in that position and his variety of crossing has proved the difference in the two players over the last few months, creating goal scoring chances and making an impact straight away (more notably, the cross to Manny against AC Milan).

 
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Walcott has the ability to drift in and out in that position and his variety of crossing has proved the difference in the two players over the last few months, creating goal scoring chances and making an impact straight away (more notably, the cross to Manny against AC Milan).


And the two goals he scored against Birmingham, one that he created out of nowhere. Also first leg against AC Milan, when he came on in the 75-80th minute, he's the one that caused Milan the most trouble, and put the cross in for Adebayor that ended up going off the bar. In the last 4-5 games, Walcott has performed way better than Eboue.

The problem Walcott used to have playing on the wing was his indecision, which ironically is caused by the amount of time he has on the ball out there (too much time to think of what to do on the ball). When he's played in the middle he's played on instinct and isn't given the time to think which is where he plays better. But in the last 4-5 games, he's played on instinct on the wing which has made him a bigger threat. He's made better runs, he's made crosses, he's put the ball on goal and so forth without thinking about it. He's grown a lot in the past month and Wenger needs to start him over Eboue.

Not to mention Eboue is a ticking timebomb. I have a feeling he's going to get a red card in a very important game if he's not careful.

 
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the only reason why we lost that match was kolo toure i think.he made two big errors and drogba scored...senderos is playing much better than kolo nowdays


awww i like Kolo, i think hes good.

i just dont understand why Eboue is starting ahead of Walcott. it seems silly


yeah but on sundey he was awful

 
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the only reason why we lost that match was kolo toure i think.he made two big errors and drogba scored...senderos is playing much better than kolo nowdays


awww i like Kolo, i think hes good.

i just dont understand why Eboue is starting ahead of Walcott. it seems silly


yeah but on sundey he was awful


who? eboue had an absolute shocker and walcott came on too late to even make a difference

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