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papa5murf · Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 3:11 pm

rachrvp wrote:

pt89 wrote:

rachrvp wrote:

pt89 wrote:

the only reason why we lost that match was kolo toure i think.he made two big errors and drogba scored...senderos is playing much better than kolo nowdays

awww i like Kolo, i think hes good.

i just dont understand why Eboue is starting ahead of Walcott. it seems silly

yeah but on sundey he was awful

who? eboue had an absolute shocker and walcott came on too late to even make a difference

No Kolo. Especially on that second goal. He completely missed the clear.

Walcott didn't do anything because he never got the ball. I remember watching and I could see Walcott at the top of the screen just standing there in acres of space. We tried to exploit Essien at RB too much, became a bit predictable after awhile.

rachrvp · Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 3:13 pm

papa5murf wrote:

rachrvp wrote:

pt89 wrote:

rachrvp wrote:

pt89 wrote:

the only reason why we lost that match was kolo toure i think.he made two big errors and drogba scored...senderos is playing much better than kolo nowdays

awww i like Kolo, i think hes good.

i just dont understand why Eboue is starting ahead of Walcott. it seems silly

yeah but on sundey he was awful

who? eboue had an absolute shocker and walcott came on too late to even make a difference

No Kolo. Especially on that second goal. He completely missed the clear.

Walcott didn't do anything because he never got the ball. I remember watching and I could see Walcott at the top of the screen just standing there in acres of space. We tried to exploit Essien at RB too much, became a bit predictable after awhile.

oh dear...i need to start opening my eyes! Embarassed

yeah kolo was a bit rubbish!

conner99 · Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 3:22 pm

i think maybe Kolo Toure left his mojo at the African Nations Cup ....

papa5murf · Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 3:26 pm

conner99 wrote:

i think maybe Kolo Toure left his mojo at the African Nations Cup ....

I would have to agree, especially with the way they lost and crashed out of the tournament. The injury he suffered there and against Milan hasn't helped him much either. He's definitely got a big dent in his confidence right now.

gooner41 · Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 9:21 pm

It's nice to know that i'm not the only person who feels Eboue doesn't belong out there. I'm an American (new to the site. gooner fan for over 10 years) who's watched almost every single (real) game this season and he has frustrated me the entire campaign. He's incredibly predictable and his technique has shown absolutely no improvement over last season. How many times does his first touch fail him? How many times has he screwed up passes, even the easy ones? How many times has he missed can't miss goals? Too many god damn times. I don't know what Wenger sees out there. His potential lied in his ability to go forward as a fullback not as a midfielder.

I also think Adebayor is one of the most overrated players on our roster and in the league. Don't get me wrong; he's had a fantastic season. However, his first touch is regularly dreadful. How many times has he screwed a beautiful pass from Fabregas or Flamini? How many times has that mistake cost the beginning of very threatening counter attack. I think he gives us something we were missing when we had Henry, a vertical presence. But, we lost so much with technique. Adebayor is not capable of just taking the ball down the field and scoring. He has to be in the 18 yd box. Someone has to feed it to him. He's not the greatest finisher with his feet either and that has cost us numerous times.

As far as Kolo is concerned, I think he's fatigued and in a bit of a slump. His athletic ability is light years ahead of Senderos, but I think his mental awareness and eye coordination are off sometimes.

O Dogg · Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 9:38 pm

gooner41 wrote:

It's nice to know that i'm not the only person who feels Eboue doesn't belong out there. I'm an American (new to the site. gooner fan for over 10 years) who's watched almost every single (real) game this season and he has frustrated me the entire campaign. He's incredibly predictable and his technique has shown absolutely no improvement over last season. How many times does his first touch fail him? How many times has he screwed up passes, even the easy ones? How many times has he missed can't miss goals? Too many god damn times. I don't know what Wenger sees out there. His potential lied in his ability to go forward as a fullback not as a midfielder.

I also think Adebayor is one of the most overrated players on our roster and in the league. Don't get me wrong; he's had a fantastic season. However, his first touch is regularly dreadful. How many times has he screwed a beautiful pass from Fabregas or Flamini? How many times has that mistake cost the beginning of very threatening counter attack. I think he gives us something we were missing when we had Henry, a vertical presence. But, we lost so much with technique. Adebayor is not capable of just taking the ball down the field and scoring. He has to be in the 18 yd box. Someone has to feed it to him. He's not the greatest finisher with his feet either and that has cost us numerous times.

As far as Kolo is concerned, I think he's fatigued and in a bit of a slump. His athletic ability is light years ahead of Senderos, but I think his mental awareness and eye coordination are off sometimes.

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Afrinux · Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 3:47 pm

Becks THFC wrote:

I wish sky wouldn't do goal celebrations in slow motion sometimes. I sadly saw Drogbas bits shake about Crying or Very sad

Scarred for life.

I keep rewinding the celebration but I didn't see anything that scared me Embarassed

Bluenose · Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:02 pm

There is scared and there is scarred. Two different meanings.

floody · Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 9:25 pm

Afrinux wrote:

Becks THFC wrote:

I wish sky wouldn't do goal celebrations in slow motion sometimes. I sadly saw Drogbas bits shake about Crying or Very sad

Scarred for life.

I keep rewinding the celebration but I didn't see anything that scared me Embarassed

Thats because Penis is your friend.

Becks THFC · Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 9:38 pm

floody wrote:

Afrinux wrote:

Becks THFC wrote:

I wish sky wouldn't do goal celebrations in slow motion sometimes. I sadly saw Drogbas bits shake about Crying or Very sad

Scarred for life.

I keep rewinding the celebration but I didn't see anything that scared me Embarassed

Thats because Penis is your friend.

You two must have something in common then.

floody · Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 9:46 pm

Your a funny one you.

Afrinux · Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 2:03 pm

Bluenose wrote:

There is scared and there is scarred. Two different meanings.

So Becks, what do u mean by scarred for life?
Btw, thx for handling floody Cool

Steely Hill · Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 2:08 pm

gooner41 wrote:

I also think Adebayor is one of the most overrated players on our roster and in the league. Don't get me wrong; he's had a fantastic season. However, his first touch is regularly dreadful. How many times has he screwed a beautiful pass from Fabregas or Flamini? How many times has that mistake cost the beginning of very threatening counter attack. I think he gives us something we were missing when we had Henry, a vertical presence. But, we lost so much with technique. Adebayor is not capable of just taking the ball down the field and scoring. He has to be in the 18 yd box. Someone has to feed it to him. He's not the greatest finisher with his feet either and that has cost us numerous times.

excellent point.

this is something i have been saying since his arrival in England and something i fully believe.

after his little bit of form the adebayor love-in went crazy, i stuck to my guns and it appears his fortune has ended and reality is dawning.

its a pleasure to see an Arsenal fan echo my thoughts. well done sir.

CFCBhoy · Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 2:26 pm

I've been saying it too Hill so stop blowing your trumpet! I also vaguely recall saying Adebayor has gone up in your estimation and retracted your earlier critiscisms of him

Definitely not 'Big 4' standard. Then again, if he played in a 'lesser' team, the chances he gets wouldn't come so frequently and this goal rush would dry up.

Steely Hill · Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 2:38 pm

CFCBhoy wrote:

I've been saying it too Hill so stop blowing your trumpet! I also vaguely recall saying Adebayor has gone up in your estimation and retracted your earlier critiscisms of him

Definitely not 'Big 4' standard. Then again, if he played in a 'lesser' team, the chances he gets wouldn't come so frequently and this goal rush would dry up.

i never retracted a thing...

Steely Hill wrote:

i have already said that Adebayor seems to be proving me wrong although its dificult to make a comparison with a player who is in the form of his life with a player who is struggling with injuries and is not being given a decent run in the team.

i dont believe i said Ashton was better im sure i said i would prefer Ashton to partner Bellamy in our attack than Adebayor. i stand by that certainly. a headbutting arrogant mercenary is not who i would like to see fronting my team thanks. there is no doubt Adebayor is playing well but can he keep it up? i would be extremely suprised.

to compare him to Drogba is drastically premature in my view as the basics such as control, touch and simple passes are missing all too often from Adebayor's game. its easy to look blindly at the fact he has scored a lot in recent games but many of the chances are on a plate through excellent team work and superb build up play. he wouldnt get that at West Ham as an example. Drogba also wouldnt get as many chances at Chelsea i dont feel which is shown by the lack of goals in his absence this season and the need for them to dip into the transfer market and his overall game is far superior to Adebayor's.

That is what i said.

at the time he was proving me wrong. however as i pointed out, it was simply down to him being in the form of his life not that he is top class and can consistently do it.

Cool

CFCBhoy · Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 2:39 pm

I'm better looking than you

Steely Hill · Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 2:41 pm

papa5murf · Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 2:52 pm

Steely Hill wrote:

its a pleasure to see an Arsenal fan echo my thoughts. well done sir.

I've never liked Adebayor. Since the first day I joined this site, I've always said I didn't like him. I did however give him praise during his 9 game run of 11 goals or something along those lines. But as a whole, I still don't like him and think we can do much better in the striker department (either from developing some of our younger strikers, or going out and buying one). I still think Bendtner will become a better striker than Adebayor in due time as long as he continues to work hard at his game.

Sticky T · Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 4:57 pm

I think Adebayor is big 4 standard. Easily.

He hasn't been in the ebst of form lately, but he did wrongly get a goal disallowed against Boro.

He has been better than almost all of the other strikers for the big 4 this season, so i don't think it's fair to say he isn't big 4 standard.

CFCBhoy · Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 4:58 pm

Who would you want last from Rooney, Drogba, Torres & Adebayor?

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