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1-1 is a good result for Liverpool but i think it will not be enough, i see Arsenal winning the second leg because even with a wall of 9 or 10 players of Liverpool in defense Arsenal have few occasions to score, they were unlucky and there should have been a penalty. The second half of Arsenal was impressive, Liverpool don't touch the ball. The problem of Arsenal in the first half is that they play too slowly.

Liverpool have made a courageous match, and defended well every ball without the goal of Adebayor, a big mistake. Confused

 
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If that penalty incident and the string of fouls afterwards that should have went Arsenal's way had happened in favour of United we'd have a good few pages on how the referee fixed the match, bla bla bla...



He was a matter of feet away from the "pen" and didn't give it. You know why? Because Hleb was looking for it and Kuyt made very little contact.

Of course some idiots will allow Sky to make their mind up for them (And boy don't they just). Whether it is Gray screaming for a penalty or Richard Keys telling everyone the ref was born in the same country as Kuyt they are going to lap it up.

I have seen them given but there is no way anyone can say honestly it was a "definite pen".

Have an opinion by all means but don't start stated it as fact.

It wasn't given and it was certainly one to be debated but the words "blatent" and "definite" should be nowhere near it.


Laughing It should have been a penalty because it was blatantly a definite clear-cut crystal clear nailed on penalty.

I love how you make it sound as if anyone who correctly identifies that as being a penalty has had their mind made up by sky Laughing

Kuyt grabbed his arm from behind inside the penalty area to put Hleb off his run. Hence it being a penalty.

You are on a new level of delusion.... Rolling Eyes


Says the man who thinks Gerrard wouldn't get in the United team......

Oh and it wasn't a penalty and that is the only fact no matter how much sarcasm you throw my way.

 
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wtebar....do you support Arsenal? or did i dream it?

 
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There was no sarcasm in that post at all Wtebar.

I mean everything I just said to the nth degree.

 
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so the ref was bad???


No, he was good. Surprisingly. He let the game flow and actually let them play football. However, he made one big mistake, and it was a BIG mistake.


you kidding me... when was this penalty mistake...i didnt see anything about that.
last 10 minuts i couldnt see cause i was going home.


Second half, around the 65th minute or so? Hleb with his magic feet dribbled his way through 4 or 5 Liverpool defenders and all the sudden saw himself in the box with only the keeper to beat if he was allowed to put a shot on goal. Kyut comes from behind and grabs Hleb's outside arm and pulls him down.

Then the ref goes and gives Arsenal a corner kick. But Hleb was the last one to touch the ball.

And all this happens with the ref about 5 yards away from the play/incident. He had a perfect view of it.

 
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papa5murf wrote:
Yessicajax wrote:
papa5murf wrote:
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so the ref was bad???


No, he was good. Surprisingly. He let the game flow and actually let them play football. However, he made one big mistake, and it was a BIG mistake.


you kidding me... when was this penalty mistake...i didnt see anything about that.
last 10 minuts i couldnt see cause i was going home.


Second half, around the 65th minute or so? Hleb with his magic feet dribbled his way through 4 or 5 Liverpool defenders and all the sudden saw himself in the box with only the keeper to beat if he was allowed to put a shot on goal. Kyut comes from behind and grabs Hleb's outside arm and pulls him down.

Then the ref goes and gives Arsenal a corner kick. But Hleb was the last one to touch the ball.

And all this happens with the ref about 5 yards away from the play/incident. He had a perfect view of it.


my dad said that the commentator also said he was bad.

oh well a penalty or not... the ref didnt give it..so nothing to do about it i guess.

 
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Yessicajax wrote:
papa5murf wrote:
Yessicajax wrote:
papa5murf wrote:
Yessicajax wrote:
so the ref was bad???


No, he was good. Surprisingly. He let the game flow and actually let them play football. However, he made one big mistake, and it was a BIG mistake.


you kidding me... when was this penalty mistake...i didnt see anything about that.
last 10 minuts i couldnt see cause i was going home.


Second half, around the 65th minute or so? Hleb with his magic feet dribbled his way through 4 or 5 Liverpool defenders and all the sudden saw himself in the box with only the keeper to beat if he was allowed to put a shot on goal. Kyut comes from behind and grabs Hleb's outside arm and pulls him down.

Then the ref goes and gives Arsenal a corner kick. But Hleb was the last one to touch the ball.

And all this happens with the ref about 5 yards away from the play/incident. He had a perfect view of it.


my dad said that the commentator also said he was bad.

oh well a penalty or not... the ref didnt give it..so nothing to do about it i guess.



oh yessica...i wish i could be so dismissive! guess it helps you dont support Arsenal Wink i'll be annoyed about it for weeks haha..shouldnt have more vodka to ease the pain Wink

 
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Yessicajax wrote:
papa5murf wrote:
Yessicajax wrote:
papa5murf wrote:
Yessicajax wrote:
so the ref was bad???


No, he was good. Surprisingly. He let the game flow and actually let them play football. However, he made one big mistake, and it was a BIG mistake.


you kidding me... when was this penalty mistake...i didnt see anything about that.
last 10 minuts i couldnt see cause i was going home.


Second half, around the 65th minute or so? Hleb with his magic feet dribbled his way through 4 or 5 Liverpool defenders and all the sudden saw himself in the box with only the keeper to beat if he was allowed to put a shot on goal. Kyut comes from behind and grabs Hleb's outside arm and pulls him down.

Then the ref goes and gives Arsenal a corner kick. But Hleb was the last one to touch the ball.

And all this happens with the ref about 5 yards away from the play/incident. He had a perfect view of it.


my dad said that the commentator also said he was bad.

oh well a penalty or not... the ref didnt give it..so nothing to do about it i guess.


Well the refereeing as a whole he wasn't bad, I've seen a lot worse this year in the EPL. He was consistent in what he was/not calling. I liked the fact that he let the game flow, and let the guys play.

 
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papa5murf wrote:
Yessicajax wrote:
papa5murf wrote:
Yessicajax wrote:
papa5murf wrote:
Yessicajax wrote:
so the ref was bad???


No, he was good. Surprisingly. He let the game flow and actually let them play football. However, he made one big mistake, and it was a BIG mistake.


you kidding me... when was this penalty mistake...i didnt see anything about that.
last 10 minuts i couldnt see cause i was going home.


Second half, around the 65th minute or so? Hleb with his magic feet dribbled his way through 4 or 5 Liverpool defenders and all the sudden saw himself in the box with only the keeper to beat if he was allowed to put a shot on goal. Kyut comes from behind and grabs Hleb's outside arm and pulls him down.

Then the ref goes and gives Arsenal a corner kick. But Hleb was the last one to touch the ball.

And all this happens with the ref about 5 yards away from the play/incident. He had a perfect view of it.


my dad said that the commentator also said he was bad.

oh well a penalty or not... the ref didnt give it..so nothing to do about it i guess.


Well the refereeing as a whole he wasn't bad, I've seen a lot worse this year in the EPL. He was consistent in what he was/not calling. I liked the fact that he let the game flow, and let the guys play.


thats new for him then...last sunday he stopped the match all the time...for nothing.

and rachrvp... yea i guess thats it...i also would be really [beep!] if it was ajax instead of Arsenal. Wink

 
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Arsenal should of took there chances. Should of been a penalty but they wouldnt of needed it if they had put there chances away and put the game to sleep. But they didnt and now need to score at Anfield

 
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exaly...if this Arsenal player wasnt only thinking of defending(only wrong side)...then it was 2-1.

 
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I think we are goners.

We were poor tonight. Weak in attack and sloppy enough to get punished at this level. We looked jaded and jagged. I can only say that Clichy, Gallas and Flamini really battled.

Liverpool did "a job" - the same old 'park the bus, press the opposition, hack them, hoof it!'

It's depressing in that sense, but we've only got ourselves to blame. It's disappointing. I mean, we let Kuyt score - Dirk forking Kuyt, the goon who struggles to whack barn doors from 6yards away.

Unless we rejuvenate ourselves massively over the next 5 days, I don't see us beating Liverpool at Anfield in the return leg. Which is quite sad because we are better for football and this competition in all honesty.

 
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Are you serious Forev? You don't think Gerrard would get in the Man Utd team? lol, but Carrick, a 19 year old, and a 33 year old can...

Do you mean Gerrard wouldn't get into the team because he's a Liverpool icon, or actually because of his ability?

 
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i just really really really dont want Liverpool to score
and if they do i will be drinking vodka until i can no longer remember who Arsenal are Smile


Unlucky treacle.

Blame the Dutch ginge...or your terrible defence.

treacle...cheers scott mills, i'll blame kuyt Wink

 
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A 1-1 draw is a good result for Liverpool considering Arsenal had a certain penalty which we got away with. After we equalised I thought Arsenal where there for the taking as they looked shakey but once half time passed Liverpool slipped into their "we'll take this" routine. Rolling Eyes

It's back to Anfield on tuesday fot the 2nd leg which should be a great game...advantage Liverpool?

As I finish this, rachrvp is hitting the vodka hard... I know this, but she'll be happy on saturday as I can see Liverpool gettin' beat, that'd be typical Liverpool Rolling Eyes



Laughing i knew it was over when bender came on. unfortunately i didnt hit the vodka as hard as planned...but you know that. and i hope you're right about saturday Cool

 
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wtebar....do you support Arsenal? or did i dream it?


Think you must have.

Dream a little dream of me....

 
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wtebar....do you support Arsenal? or did i dream it?


Think you must have.

Dream a little dream of me....



hmmm odd.

 
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Liverpool did "a job" - the same old 'park the bus, press the opposition, hack them, hoof it!'


Why do people always see a defensive style as terrible football? We aren't even that defensive a lot of the time, but in the Champions League Benitez always chooses defence over attack, and you won't find any Liverpool fans complaining, because it works!

Just compare it to Fergie's and Wenger's attacking philosophy in this competition. Their records pale in comparison.

I used to think of Chelsea (especially in their black kit)as a Nazi war machine that would roll on and on, grinding past all that was put before it. Nothing could stop them. No one could score against them. Their defence was unbeatable, and that was the foundations their attack was build on, making them a very solid, organised, powerful and seemingly unstoppable force. From the right camera angle, you would see the team in a line before the match in the dark kits, looking very intimidating, showing no fear, expecting to flatten whatever was put in front of them. There was an air of invincibility about them. If Nazi Germany had a football team instead of an army when they invaded Europe, i imagine it would be like that Chelsea team of old - the one with the incredible defence.

I like to think of Liverpool in the CL as the Russians - The Red Army. They defend for their lives, successfully defending against even the best war machines. Teams can throw everything at us, and we will throw everything in the way to stop them defeating us. It's like we go through hardship on the field, we run more, fight more, become more exhausted, but ultimately, the invaders fail to successfully breach our last line of defence - just like The Red Army in the Stalingrad.

War machines don't run around doing fancy things, they grind past what's put in front of them like an army in the Second World War.



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Are you serious Forev? You don't think Gerrard would get in the Man Utd team? lol, but Carrick, a 19 year old, and a 33 year old can...

Do you mean Gerrard wouldn't get into the team because he's a Liverpool icon, or actually because of his ability?


Because he isn't better than Scholes and they couldn't play together maybe.

 
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Rolling Eyes

Suuuurrrrreeee he isn't. Do you really still believe that?


Next you'll be telling me Torres isn't good enough to get in your team.

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