they have what is called a mathematical chance.

Sydney defeated Persik 3 - 0 at home and move up to 2nd in Group E.

Shanghai 0 - 0 Urawa in the other group game.

I went down to the Sydney game (500m from home) - they played well once they got some early wobbles out of their system. Persik were very defensive-minded though and apart from some very quick counter-attacks didn't threaten much.

Sydney will go through if they win their last two games - it's just that they are unlikely to win those games which is the problem.

Last night's games...

Sydney 0 - 0 Shanghai

Shandong 2 - 2 Adelaide

Nice penalty Talay

Last night's results...

Urawa 0 - 0 Sydney

Dong Tam 0 - 3 Adelaide

Sydney are knocked out

First leg of final

Sepahan 1 - 1 Urawa

(HT: 0 - 1)

Mahmoud Karimi 47(Sep) - (Ura) Robson Ponte 45

Urawa will probably win at home in japan.

2008 draw

Group A: Sepahan (Iran), Kuruvchi (Uzbekistan), Al Ittihad (Saudi Arabia), Al Ittihad (Syria)

Group B: Al Wasl (UAE), Saipa (Iran), Kuwait FC (Kuwait), Al Quwa Al Jawiya (Iraq)

Group C: Al Sadd (Qatar), Al Wahda (UAE), Al Karama (Syria), Al Ahli (Saudi Arabia)

Group D: Pakhtakor (Uzbekistan), Al Gharafa (Qatar), Arbil (Iraq), Al Qadsiya (Kuwait)

Group E: Changchun Yatai (China), Adelaide United (Australia), Pohang Steelers (Korea Republic), Binh Duong (Vietnam)

Group F: Krung Thai Bank (Thailand), Beijing Guoan (China), Nam Dinh (Vietnam), Kashima Antlers (Japan)

Group G: Melbourne Victory (Australia), Chonburi FC (Thailand), Gamba Osaka (Japan), Chunnam Dragons (Korea Republic)

Those groups definately arent as hard as the ones the aussie teams found themselves in last season.

Don't think either team will advance though, melbourne are shite without fred and adelaide are too inconsistent.

MVFC to get absolutely smashed!

have you ever posted a reply with more then 1 line in it?

yes i have! Melbourne is in a tricky group and will have learnt from last season with adelaide and sydney. The ACL is extremely difficult away for one reason because of the crowd. Adelaide will have some trouble but their group quality isn't as high as that of victory's group.

Back in action tonight...

Melbourne take on Gamba Osaka at the Telstra Dome which should be a fantastic match.

Adelaide are away in Vietnam playing some team I can't remember

Kicks off at 7:30pm AEST.

If I didn't have training i'd watch the games on Sopcast

Melbourne score 4 minutes in - Danny Allsopp on the back of poor goalkeeping.

Hows it going now?

2 - 2 in the 53rd minute - absolute cracker of a game.

Open game from the kick off - plenty of space for all players and most players are getting forward and attacking.

Allsopp and Vargas with Melb's goals.

Osaka's first goal was an absolute gem.

Gamba 2 - 0 Melbourne

Adelaide 4 - 1 Bin Dhong

Adelaide are all but through, Melbourne all but out.

Humm, didn't realise there was another thread for this competition. I created one back in January for the group stages, and placed it in the Other Leagues section.

CLICK HERE I was wondering why no one was posting in it.