You may say this but still we need a back up bendnter not good enough for Arsenal i will say, van persie you never no when he is fit and injuried and adebayor is quality but needs a rest and walcott will become quality but still will play on the right next year still and eventually are players for me adebayor and villa got to be the prefear upfront with van persie on bench and eduardo wont be right till the 2010/11 season fully

I doubt Valencia will eventually go down, but they're definitely running a fine line thus far. Whatever happens certain players like Villa would inevitably leave though, which could prompt others to seek elsewhere also.

I wouldn't want Villa at Liverpool. Well, i would - i'd love it, because he's one of the best strikers in the world. I just don't think he'd suit our system; one of he or Torres would have to play on the wing unless we reverted to 4-4-2 (which i don't think works well for us, unless Gerrard's on the right). Anyway, we probably won't have a fortune to spend - not enough to buy star players in positions that aren't a priority.

Of their players i'd love David Silva; at a cut price. We're in need for wide players and we couldn't do much better than to go for the Spaniard. I would prefer him to anyone else available there.

The other player i'd plunge for would be, as Sticky said, Nikola Zigic. Would be an excellent replacement for Crouch assuming he exits in the summer. I would not say no to someone like Albelda or Baraja either to bolster our central midfield position, for a small fee, adding much needed experience to our squad in the process.

Silva, Zigic, Albeda/Baraja.

Zigic is awesome. He is basically Crouch but strong and he can head as opposed to just being tall. He's a little quicker as well I think. Great impact player or for general use alongside Torres for rolling over weaker teams.

What Ben?

You change your mind quite a bit don't you. Last time we spoke about Villa, you said you'd love him at Liverpool, and despite him and Torres not doing well together for Spain, he would be one of the players you'd most like us to sign. But before that, you were in agreement with my originals views.

I was slightly worried about the two together, and with the formation we play. But, if he's going on the cheap, who else can we buy? Well, he won't be cheap cheap, but if DIC come in and Valencia get relegated, it wouldn't be a great deal of money for us.

Admittedly it's hard to agree on Villa, and i probably only put him there because he's so good - not because we need him (assuming we are to play the 4-2-3-1 formation for much of the season).

If that's the case, then i'd want a player that can play as a winger/striker. Someone like Farfan or Arshavin, but that's just me digressing, so i'll shut up now.

Koeman sacked.

Only about 3 months too late.

I did flirt with the idea of Villa, but eventually admitted he wouldn't fit our system. I suppose it was because he is such a good player that i'd have wanted us to make it work. The partnership with Torres/Villa nationaly doesn't faze me though as neither player plays anywhere near as well for Spain as they do their club... In fact very few players in football do.

Anyway, he wouldn't come cheap. Yes Valencia would be relegated but the interest from various clubs, forcing competition, would ensure he'd still fetch for a hefty price.

I'd love us to start next season with something like this:


------------- Torres

-- Silva ---------------- Gerrard
------------- Modric


Phwoar. Although i couldn't see Gerrard being moved out to the right, but i suppose all three of Silva, Modric and Gerrard could fluctuate in position during the match. I bet for all the speculation we end up getting no-one of note... And it wouldn't be surprising either the way things are going behind the scenes.

Yeah, if Darren Bent went for £16m from Charlton when they got relegated - then Villa could fetch double that.



I'm not overly keen on the team you put out. I'd prefer to keep Gerrard in the middle. From that position he chips in with so many goals. More than many strikers, which is invaluable.

I'd prefer this:


------------Torres

Silva---------------------Farfan (Can play as a striker and as a winger - can provide cover for Torres)
----------- Gerrard



Although i'd settle for Babel in place of Farfan. Or Young, Kranjar, Arshavin etc.

He is still better than reina and im saying id like those players i know were not going to get any just my preference out of their current squad

haha 3 month to late? he is only ther for 6 month

Yeah i know. But about 3 months ago he should've been sacked. I think he won either 0 or 1 game in his first 10, finished bottom of the group in the CL and slipped from near the top of the table to near the bottom.

True. But there is no difference with him playing on the right.

Season-...Pld--.Gls
2003-04--.-47--..-6
2004-05-.--43---13
2005-06-.--53---23
2006-07--.-49---11
2007-08--.-49---22

2005/06 obviously the year he played a hell of a lot on the right-wing. As i've said previously - is it any coincidence that that's the year we came closest in the league? Personally i think he's just as good on the right and perhaps it's easier to find (or at least purchase) a quality and creative attacking midfielder than it is a winger. But as i said, the movement between the trio of Silva, Modric and Gerrard would be such that they'd interchange a hell of a lot anyway. If Alonso could regain some lost form, similar to what we saw tonight in the Champions League, then we'd have an exceptional group of players to attack with.

I doubt Rafa would move Gerrard though. No way. Gerrard's certainly no Carragher and wouldn't really stand for it. Which for me is a bit of a shame. I suppose you could alternatively have:

------------- Torres

- Modric ---------------- Silva
------------ Gerrard

The versatility would be damn good. I know Modric can play on the left as well as centre, Silva practically anywhere - right, left, centre - and Gerrard right and centre.

How the [beep!] are Valencia 16th with that team?

New manager in place and wants to keep his players

If they get relegated he won't have much choice.

Damn i hope we sign Silva.

Would take Canizares too if he was willing to be cover for Reina.

It looks like Valencia will be selling heavily anyway.

Zigic!

It looks like Valencia could be going the way of Deportivo la Coruna. Shame.

Let's raid their squad!

i hope keegan does

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Newcastle should go for moretti,albiol and albelda

Newcastle should just go for Hildebrand, Miguel, Albiol, Helguera, Caneira, Joaquin, Albelda, Baraja, Silva, Zigic and Villa.

It is a shame how a great side like Valencia's at a great club such as Valencia is going to be dismantled, as Sticky said - but that's football.

If we could prise Silva away i'd be delighted. Wouldn't say no to Miguel either. The likes of Villa i'm not too fussed about and we won't go for him anyway.

Silva would be good at any team, so whoever gets him are sorted on the left hand side.

If Liverpool get him will Babel miss out or play on the right?

Personally i'd have him on the right anyway. He's far more effective there or in the centre (i.e. as a striker).

The options if Silva arrived would be:

i) Stick Babel on the right.
ii) Stick Silva on the right, so we have two wingers who cut inside with the full-backs over-lapping.
iii) Revert to 4-4-2, stick Babel in attack and (in my opinion) stick Gerrard on the right with Mascherano and either Alonso or Barry in the middle.
iv) Use him as a super-sub.

I'd go with the first option - unless we signed a really good pacey left-back who could overlap; then i think he could work on the left. Until that happens though he is too predictable.