Kaka no longer the 'best player in the world' in General Football from Football.co.uk

paddypoohead · Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 7:29 pm

CyrilTarkwin wrote:

paddypoohead wrote:

I honestly believe that if Messi can stay fit for a full season without getting a serious injury he could have amn even better season than Ronaldo is now. My not goal wise but he wouldn't be far off, when Messi's on top of his game no one can touch him.

'IF', 'COULD HAVE', 'Wouldn't be far off'.

We're not talking about what could be. Ronaldo IS currently the best player in the world.

Pease tell me who has been BETTER than him over these 2 seasons. Not as good as, or 'not far off'. Not based on team performances either. Who has been the better individual? Nobody!

Messi has a brilliant scoring record for someone of his age that doesn't play up front. Ronaldo also does not play up front, people call him a winger but his position is deceptively similar to Messi's as he constantly cuts inside into the centre. He is probably the most freely scoring winger that I have ever seen yet this does not make him a better player than his counterparts. Often he will score a goal and do very little else in a match apart from a few stepovers or a good dribble. He is a better goalscorer than Messi, no question about it but Messi aged 20 is a much better goalscorer than Ronaldo aged 20. I know your going to say we are talking about Ronaldo nowadays but I am making a point that there is a good chance Messi will equal Ronaldo's scoring record sometiem inside the next year or two. Yes, in terms of sheer form Ronaldo is the best in the world, he easily surpasses Kaka this year, but Messi in the opening months of La Liga had a similar scoring record to Ronaldo and had much better all round performances as he contributed much more to the team in terms of work rate, assists and abiliy to find team mates with passes. Messi got injured for couple of months and when he returned his form dropped as it took him a while to regain fitness. Whenever he got back on top of his game he began scoring freely and contributing almost ev erything to Barca's performances. You just have to look at their form since he got injured to see how pivotal he is. I believe that with continuos games, like Ronaldo has had the whole season, Messi is a better player. That is why while I believe Ronaldo is the worlds most in form player, Messi is the worlds best player in terms of quality when he is on the field.

KingDrogba · Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 1:00 am

Could you see Messi smash in a 30 yard free-kick? No. What about a towering powerful header? No What about using his other leg? No Why can't he entertain with a few tricks and flicks? Cause he can't. Ronaldo plays in a mans league and Messi is always getting injured in the boys league. Ronaldo is best.

marcofoo · Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 12:55 pm

paddypoohead wrote:

CyrilTarkwin wrote:

paddypoohead wrote:

I honestly believe that if Messi can stay fit for a full season without getting a serious injury he could have amn even better season than Ronaldo is now. My not goal wise but he wouldn't be far off, when Messi's on top of his game no one can touch him.

'IF', 'COULD HAVE', 'Wouldn't be far off'.

We're not talking about what could be. Ronaldo IS currently the best player in the world.

Pease tell me who has been BETTER than him over these 2 seasons. Not as good as, or 'not far off'. Not based on team performances either. Who has been the better individual? Nobody!

Messi has a brilliant scoring record for someone of his age that doesn't play up front. Ronaldo also does not play up front, people call him a winger but his position is deceptively similar to Messi's as he constantly cuts inside into the centre. He is probably the most freely scoring winger that I have ever seen yet this does not make him a better player than his counterparts. Often he will score a goal and do very little else in a match apart from a few stepovers or a good dribble. He is a better goalscorer than Messi, no question about it but Messi aged 20 is a much better goalscorer than Ronaldo aged 20. I know your going to say we are talking about Ronaldo nowadays but I am making a point that there is a good chance Messi will equal Ronaldo's scoring record sometiem inside the next year or two. Yes, in terms of sheer form Ronaldo is the best in the world, he easily surpasses Kaka this year, but Messi in the opening months of La Liga had a similar scoring record to Ronaldo and had much better all round performances as he contributed much more to the team in terms of work rate, assists and abiliy to find team mates with passes. Messi got injured for couple of months and when he returned his form dropped as it took him a while to regain fitness. Whenever he got back on top of his game he began scoring freely and contributing almost ev erything to Barca's performances. You just have to look at their form since he got injured to see how pivotal he is. I believe that with continuos games, like Ronaldo has had the whole season, Messi is a better player. That is why while I believe Ronaldo is the worlds most in form player, Messi is the worlds best player in terms of quality when he is on the field.

I somehow don't think so. Ronaldo is on course to score at least 40 goals in one season. I can't see Messi going past 30 in a season.

paddypoohead · Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 5:40 pm

CyrilTarkwin wrote:

paddypoohead wrote:

CyrilTarkwin wrote:

paddypoohead wrote:

I honestly believe that if Messi can stay fit for a full season without getting a serious injury he could have amn even better season than Ronaldo is now. My not goal wise but he wouldn't be far off, when Messi's on top of his game no one can touch him.

'IF', 'COULD HAVE', 'Wouldn't be far off'.

We're not talking about what could be. Ronaldo IS currently the best player in the world.

Pease tell me who has been BETTER than him over these 2 seasons. Not as good as, or 'not far off'. Not based on team performances either. Who has been the better individual? Nobody!

Messi has a brilliant scoring record for someone of his age that doesn't play up front. Ronaldo also does not play up front, people call him a winger but his position is deceptively similar to Messi's as he constantly cuts inside into the centre. He is probably the most freely scoring winger that I have ever seen yet this does not make him a better player than his counterparts. Often he will score a goal and do very little else in a match apart from a few stepovers or a good dribble. He is a better goalscorer than Messi, no question about it but Messi aged 20 is a much better goalscorer than Ronaldo aged 20. I know your going to say we are talking about Ronaldo nowadays but I am making a point that there is a good chance Messi will equal Ronaldo's scoring record sometiem inside the next year or two. Yes, in terms of sheer form Ronaldo is the best in the world, he easily surpasses Kaka this year, but Messi in the opening months of La Liga had a similar scoring record to Ronaldo and had much better all round performances as he contributed much more to the team in terms of work rate, assists and abiliy to find team mates with passes. Messi got injured for couple of months and when he returned his form dropped as it took him a while to regain fitness. Whenever he got back on top of his game he began scoring freely and contributing almost ev erything to Barca's performances. You just have to look at their form since he got injured to see how pivotal he is. I believe that with continuos games, like Ronaldo has had the whole season, Messi is a better player. That is why while I believe Ronaldo is the worlds most in form player, Messi is the worlds best player in terms of quality when he is on the field.

I somehow don't think so. Ronaldo is on course to score at least 40 goals in one season. I can't see Messi going past 30 in a season.

A couple of years ago if you had of said that Ronaldo would be hitting 40 goals a season I bet you would have laughed.

paddypoohead · Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 5:49 pm

[quote="KingDrogba"]Could you see Messi smash in a 30 yard free-kick? No. What about a towering powerful header? No What about using his other leg? No Why can't he entertain with a few tricks and flicks? Cause he can't. Ronaldo plays in a mans league and Messi is always getting injured in the boys league. Ronaldo is best.[/quo

Messi is only 20 and doesn't hit free kicks for Barca or Argentina because of Ronaldinho and Riquelme. Ronaldo would never get hitting free kicks ahead of those two. For all we know Messi could be a good free kick taker but he doesn't get a chance to hit them, Ronaldo didnt hit free kicks at Man United when he was 20. And because Barcelona's style I dont think Messi will ever even need to attempt a header as the ball is constantly on the ground. And your honestly teeling me you don't think Messi could do a backheel or a stepover? Most of Ronaldo's tricks are quite easy, I can even do them and im not joking. I find a 30 yard dribble more entertainig than a stepover. Beating multiple defenders in tight areas is an incredibly hard thing to master but Messi does it with such ease. And if the Spanish League is such a boys league then why is Ronaldo constantly quoting that he feels it is the best league in the world and he wants to play there some day?

paddypoohead · Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 8:28 pm

I think it's safe to say Messi totally outshone Ronaldo last night....another big game another failure.

KingDrogba · Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 11:00 pm

Well if Ronaldo was playing for Barca last night he would of breaking down the United defence something that Messi and Barca could'nt do. They are celebrating as if they'd won when they only got a 0-0 draw at home against a United side that had its worst game of the season. Manchester United will hammer them at Old Trafford.

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