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Have we taken Grant for granted?

Young Pro

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Before I start off I know the title of the thread is so great Very Happy

Grant has a result of 5 defeats since succeeding Jose Murinho and his team has blown the title race wide open, last Saturday by beating United. Of course his team is made of 1xx millions. Nonetheless he is still in the semi-final and has a great chance to knock Liverpool out and might as well win the CL + the EPL title.
Of course for us to respect him the minimum is to knock out Liverpool and compete for the EPL (which he has already is doing).

So now he feels discriminated and if wins those 2 titles he has all the right to leave Chelsea in my opinion. He's a good coach and we've taken him for granted - or what do you think?

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As nobody has posted on your thread heres my opinion about Avram Grant..

The man only got the Chelski job because of his friendship with comrade Roman and will never
win over the fans of his team what ever he dose as they belive he back stabbed their hero to get the job.

I think any coach with the squad Chelsea have would be able to do well if they had his position.....

I find him to be the most boring and dull manager ever and watching him being interviewed is painfull...

I don't know about anybody else but I miss Jose Mourinho's post match antics and crazy comments!

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Yeah weve taken Grant and Chelsea for granted.

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yes of course we have .....but no one really cares .. I dont care about Chelsea`s manager or Man Utd`s manager ....


But the fact is Grant is a boring man ....the only emotion i have seen from him this season was when Chelsea scored against Man Utd on saturday . How can the Chelsea fans support their manager when he displays such lack of emotion in matches and some bizarre responses to interviewers .

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At the end of the day a manager is there to get result not to entertain with his antics, his are quite good.
And I do not think every manager would have had the same results as him.

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A manager isn't obliged to entertain in interviews. His duty is on the field, not in the interview room.


To judge him on how dull he is isn't reason enough to discredit him as manager. It's pathetic.

As for him showing a lack of emotion. I can think of few managers who have looked more emotional than Grant when their team has scored in recent weeks. The guy looks like he's about to burst when Chelsea score, such is the emotion/relief at that point.

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Cant tell. All hes done is let the players that Mourinho brought in do what they are good at.

We shall see what hes made of next season where his own signings will shine or not shine.

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It takes more than just a squad of great players.

Just ask Rijkaard.

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I know but i dont think the Chelsea players listen to Avram Grant they just remember and do what Mourinho told them and wanted them to do.

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That's completely unfounded.

The guy has had to work in the more difficult of situations, but still has managed to catch up with Man U and reach the semi final of the CL.

If Fergie has had a good season, then Avram Grant has had a fantastic season.

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He's got to keep his job now surely.

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Nah, not when people start to like him Wink
Need to boo him more, then he will keep the job.

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So, contrary to the consensus around the Bridge, it would seem Grant does in fact know what he is doing.

For someone who can't win the big games, he's doing pretty well in them - he has beaten Arsenal, Man U and Liverpool.

Chelsea could be 3 games away from their MOST successful season ever. EVER! You'd never thinking if you wasn't aware of Chelsea's results, only the criticism fired at Grant, would you?!

If Chelsea do win the CL, it would be a huge slap in the face for Mourinho, Man U, Fergie, and the Chelsea fans.

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grant might make a good manager.. but he's not the one for Chelsea..

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He's closing up on the double, and I believe that he can easily beat Newcastle & Wigan in the EPL and United will probably draw or lose to West Ham (United have lost the last 3 matches between against West Ham) and he's already beaten United last week.

He's done in less than a season what Murinho couldn't do in 3, so give Grant credit! Also his press conference was pretty cool when he refused to answer the media.

Chelsea 3-0 Newcastle
Chelsea 3-1 WIgan
Chelsea 1-0 Manchester United

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Del Piero 10 wrote:
He's closing up on the double, and I believe that he can easily beat Newcastle & Wigan in the EPL and United will probably draw or lose to West Ham (United have lost the last 3 matches between against West Ham) and he's already beaten United last week.
He's done in less than a season what Murinho couldn't do in 3, so give Grant credit! Also his press conference was pretty cool when he refused to answer the media.

Chelsea 3-0 Newcastle
Chelsea 3-1 WIgan
Chelsea 1-0 Manchester United


with a suspicious penalty?.. hell yeah.. Mad

it's not going to happen for the second time.. it's time for us to change the fact.. Razz

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Del Piero 10 wrote:
He's closing up on the double, and I believe that he can easily beat Newcastle & Wigan in the EPL and United will probably draw or lose to West Ham (United have lost the last 3 matches between against West Ham) and he's already beaten United last week.

He's done in less than a season what Murinho couldn't do in 3, so give Grant credit! Also his press conference was pretty cool when he refused to answer the media.

Chelsea 3-0 Newcastle
Chelsea 3-1 WIgan
Chelsea 1-0 Manchester United


closing in on the double?
how do you make that one out?
If your talking about past games between Man United and West Ham, why dont you say anything about how Chelsea have done away to us in the past?
In their last 5 visits to st james park they have only scored 3 goals!! you didnt check this?
Im not sayin we are goin to beat them, but its only fair you take this into account

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A deaf blind monkey could manage that squad to success

His back-up players are Makalele, Anelka, Alex, Bridge, Cudicini, Malouda etc, players that would walk into almost any other team in the league.

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Big Jono wrote:
A deaf blind monkey could manage that squad to success

His back-up players are Makalele, Anelka, Alex, Bridge, Cudicini, Malouda etc, players that would walk into almost any other team in the league.


But the fact is, Mourinho never managed to get them to the CL final.

And in the league, Grant has done a better job this season than Mourinho did last season.

Does that make Mourinho a deaf blind monkey?

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Del Piero 10 wrote:

Chelsea 1-0 Manchester United


with a suspicious penalty?.. hell yeah.. Mad

it's not going to happen for the second time.. it's time for us to change the fact.. Razz



There was no suspicious penalty. It was a stonewall penalty. We all saw it hit Carrick on the hand, it's pathetic to go making up excuses for that defetat. Chelsea were much the better team, and deserved the win.

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Jackpot_Jac wrote:
Del Piero 10 wrote:
He's closing up on the double, and I believe that he can easily beat Newcastle & Wigan in the EPL and United will probably draw or lose to West Ham (United have lost the last 3 matches between against West Ham) and he's already beaten United last week.

He's done in less than a season what Murinho couldn't do in 3, so give Grant credit! Also his press conference was pretty cool when he refused to answer the media.

Chelsea 3-0 Newcastle
Chelsea 3-1 WIgan
Chelsea 1-0 Manchester United


closing in on the double?
how do you make that one out?
If your talking about past games between Man United and West Ham, why dont you say anything about how Chelsea have done away to us in the past?
In their last 5 visits to st james park they have only scored 3 goals!! you didnt check this?
Im not sayin we are goin to beat them, but its only fair you take this into account


When was the last time Newcastle won against Chelsea? Chelsea will kill Newcastle, just watch Chelsea's matches against United, Liverpool. They are a whole different class than when they were under Murinho this season.

United fans stop making excuses for your losses, Avram is cool and he is better than Fergieson! (I know)

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Del Piero 10 wrote:
Jackpot_Jac wrote:
Del Piero 10 wrote:
He's closing up on the double, and I believe that he can easily beat Newcastle & Wigan in the EPL and United will probably draw or lose to West Ham (United have lost the last 3 matches between against West Ham) and he's already beaten United last week.

He's done in less than a season what Murinho couldn't do in 3, so give Grant credit! Also his press conference was pretty cool when he refused to answer the media.

Chelsea 3-0 Newcastle
Chelsea 3-1 WIgan
Chelsea 1-0 Manchester United


closing in on the double?
how do you make that one out?
If your talking about past games between Man United and West Ham, why dont you say anything about how Chelsea have done away to us in the past?
In their last 5 visits to st james park they have only scored 3 goals!! you didnt check this?
Im not sayin we are goin to beat them, but its only fair you take this into account


When was the last time Newcastle won against Chelsea? Chelsea will kill Newcastle, just watch Chelsea's matches against United, Liverpool. They are a whole different class than when they were under Murinho this season.

United fans stop making excuses for your losses, Avram is cool and he is better than Fergieson! (I know)


we beat Chelsea 2years ago. we should have had a draw at their place this season if it wasnt for an offside goal in the last minute. you make me what Man United to win the league. how can you talk like this when your second favorite at the moment. i thought you supported the cheats....i mean juventus anyways Wink

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I support the most royal club in the whole world, the best club too. But I hate Man United and I thought Jose was cool and now I like Drogba. Still Chelsea is a better team than Newcastle by a milestone. Stop complaining about offside and stuff, because the better team always wins, no matter the circumstances. And before you mention Juve remember that they actually win the league about every 4th year, meanwhile Newcastle haven't won in what? 80 years+++?

Newcastle boo boo bo

Chelsea Yee!

Re: Have we taken Grant for granted?

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Del Piero 10 wrote:
Before I start off I know the title of the thread is so great Very Happy

Grant has a result of 5 defeats since succeeding Jose Murinho and his team has blown the title race wide open, last Saturday by beating United. Of course his team is made of 1xx millions. Nonetheless he is still in the semi-final and has a great chance to knock Liverpool out and might as well win the CL + the EPL title.
Of course for us to respect him the minimum is to knock out Liverpool and compete for the EPL (which he has already is doing).

So now he feels discriminated and if wins those 2 titles he has all the right to leave Chelsea in my opinion. He's a good coach and we've taken him for granted - or what do you think?


Don't get too smug yet son because IF Chelsea end up with nothing this season.....and there is a strong chance of that happening......then you are going to get your nose rubbed in it......and we won't be gentle with you. Here's a prediction......no matter what Chelsea win.....Grant will be sacked and the squad dismantled in the close season. Abromavitch wasn't at either the United or the Liverpool game. What does that tell you?

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Del Piero 10 wrote:
I support the most royal club in the whole world, the best club too. But I hate Man United and I thought Jose was cool and now I like Drogba. Still Chelsea is a better team than Newcastle by a milestone. Stop complaining about offside and stuff, because the better team always wins, no matter the circumstances. And before you mention Juve remember that they actually win the league about every 4th year, meanwhile Newcastle haven't won in what? 80 years+++?

Newcastle boo boo bo

Chelsea Yee!


i dont give a [beep!] if Newcastle havnt won anything for 39 years (you were miles away). I stil love the club. If we all supported a team because they were successful then we would all support the big four teams. How boring would that be!!! I dont understand how you can come on here and leave comments when it is clear you have as much football knowledge as my little finger. Where did you get 80years from. you know nothing. Juventus are cheats, as far as im concerned they will always be remembered as the team that needed to cheat to win the league. i hate cheats, got no time for them. I would rather finish a season in a position like Newcastle have done for the last few years then cheat! I dont care if