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OWEN_ENG wrote:
My Prediction:
Alonso to Spain somewhere
Lucas(who i think isn't good enough for 1st team football) will probably stay at the club, OR will be sent out on loan.
That leaves Gerrard, Mascharano, and Barry...throw Babel in there and that's Liverpool's midfield.

Barry to Liverpool in the summer!


Nah in my opinion hes a very good player and is definately good enugh for first team football.

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Barry isn't the man to solve our left sided midfield problem OWEN_ENG. I can think of another Englishman at that club who possibly could though.

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Sticky T wrote:
Barry isn't the man to solve our left sided midfield problem OWEN_ENG. I can think of another Englishman at that club who possibly could though.


how much do you think he would cost?

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Who, Young?

No sure, but as Villa paid around £10m for him, and he's improved so much since then, you'd probably be looking at around double.

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Sticky T wrote:
Who, Young?

No sure, but as Villa paid around £10m for him, and he's improved so much since then, you'd probably be looking at around double.


£20 is a lot! he has showed hes good though. It would be interesting if you guys made an offer. He would find it hard to turn down Liverpool. I like babel anyways, why didnt he start tonight.

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£20 million for Young?!?! No way. That would be another prime example of English players being sold for more than they are worth. Barry is apparently only going to fetch around £13-15 million.

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Yeah, exactly. I'm not saying he's worth that, but i do think that's how much Villa would expect for him.
He is younger and has more potential than both Carrick and Bent, and look how much they went for.


Jackpot - Babel didn't start because he was used as an impact sub, like against Arsenal in the quarters. It worked, he made an impact scoring a goal, but unfortunately we were too far behind to catch them, thanks to Drogba's second goal.

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yeah, fair enough. i just like him thats al

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Barry has officially been linked with Arsenal now. But Wenger is afraid that a bidding war will squeeze Arsenal out of the picture (which might be likely since Wenger isn't going to overpay for anyone).

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There has been specualtion about Barry's future and both Chelsea and Liverpool have been strongly linked with a move for the in-form Villa captain.

Wenger fears those two big-spending heavyweights could squeeze Arsenal out of the picture in a bidding war for Barry.

The Times says the Gunners have asked to be kept informed of Barry's position at Villa Park but may not be able to compete with the financial packages on offer from Liverpool and Chelsea.

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Arsenal can easily compete. Whether Wenger decide's to is another matter. I doubt he would, as you say papa5murf.

But i like to think if we came up against Arsenal or Chelsea for Barry that Gerrard could persuade him, being a supposedly close friend.

Oh and i'd say Young would be more around the £15million mark, £17million tops. £10million was excessive in the first place, and unless United or Chelsea came in for him i couldn't see that price doubling. Still expensive whatever way you look at it, and not really worth it either.

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Young is worth about 7 or 8 tops.

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But he obviously wouldn't sell for that amount.

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fakeplastictrees wrote:
Young is worth about 7 or 8 tops.


Young would be sold for about twice that. look at the prices that Carrick and Bent were sold for in the past. In my opinion Young shows more promise then both them.

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Liverpool have reportedly opened the bidding for Gareth Barry by offering £10m for the Aston Villa captain. Pool are thought to have contacted Villa yesterday - an interesting and immediate response to their Champions League exit. Perhaps they are trying to get in ahead of Arsenal, although Arsene Wenger continues to hope that Mathieu Flamini will stay. Your thoughts to: theeditor@football365.com

Thers no smoke without a fire come on rafa sign barry

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BREAKING NEWS!

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ASTON VILLA CONFIRM Liverpool OFFER

Aston Villa boss Martin O'Neill has confirmed that Liverpool have made an offer for captain Gareth Barry.

The Reds have been tracking the England international for some time now, but O'Neill has said the Anfield club have offered a 'mish-mash of nameless player exchanges' in return for Barry.

More to follow...

- Source; Setanta


My guess that the players will be Crouch and Carson definitely - maybe Riise too, but only because the article makes it sound as though we've offered more than two players.

Exciting.

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wtf is Benitez doing? Barry isnt a patch on Mascherano or Alonso, another Crouch, Pennant buy, he'll ship him out in a season or two.

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Big Jono wrote:
wtf is Benitez doing? Barry isnt a patch on Mascherano or Alonso, another Crouch, Pennant buy, he'll ship him out in a season or two.


Barry is a very good player and can play left back as well due to his versitality he would be a very astute siging.....

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torres99 wrote:
Big Jono wrote:
wtf is Benitez doing? Barry isnt a patch on Mascherano or Alonso, another Crouch, Pennant buy, he'll ship him out in a season or two.


Barry is a very good player and can play left back as well due to his versitality he would be a very astute siging.....


For someone like Spurs he might be but I thought Liverpool had ambition? Dont you as fans want win the league one day?

Well newsflash you aint gonna do it while Benitez keeps setting his sights this low.

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So Liverpool make the first 'initial' bid (quite low in my opinion, money wise; but with players in exchange it levels out a bit). Arsenal will probably be in shortly as Wenger had previously contacted Villa asking them to keep him in the loop of any bids. But knowing how Arsenal operate, we probably won't know till a contract is signed for one or the other.

torres99: Flamini is off to Milan. There have been rumors that he has already told the team that he has chosen Milan. It's not 100% fact, but the fact that the deadline Arsenal and Wenger set forth for Flamini to put a signature on the contract has passed leads me to believe it's quite accurate.

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I'd hope if we signed him he'd play left-back really, rather than replace Alonso (or even play on the left-wing). It's a position he's very capable in and one we have sorely lacked in for a long while.

He has enough ability, both defensively and creatively, with very good passing, as well as being a leader - something that appeals to me greatly. We need more strong characters like that. He also adds terrific cover and depth to the central midfield positions. Not to mention that he's a sound free-kick and corner-kick taker (something i feel we need, someone aside from Gerrard). The only qualm you could really summon is his lack of pace.

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Laughing

O'Neill sure looks p*ssed off about all this.

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All this talk about Barry playing LB at Liverpool ... Yes it's correct that the man can play at LB as I stated in the first post, but I don't believe he'll be happy playing in that position day in and day out. Playing in that position for a game or two as cover due to injuries I could see, but every game, I doubt he'll be thrilled with it. He's worked too hard throughout his career to get to where he is now and solidify his preferred position which is obviously in the middle as a holding midfielder. I can't see him throwing all that away with a blink of an eye.

Also if he were to play LB at Liverpool, what would that do to his England career where he's solidified himself as a candidate to partner Gerrard in the middle for the next few years.

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Ben91 wrote:
Laughing

O'Neill sure looks p*ssed off about all this.


That he is. And I don't blame the man really. £10 and Crouch for Barry. Hardly a good deal for Villa who are stacked up front with bright young talent.

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Reds-Faced O'Neill Vents Fury Over Barry
Aston Villa gaffer Martin O’Neill is raging at reports suggesting Liverpool have made a £10m swoop for midfield ace Gareth Barry...

The boss claims that the Reds have merely made some audacious swap offers and should be conducting their business more professionally.

“Gareth Barry still has two years of his contract left to run and, from my two years experience of working with him, he's not one who would want to break contracts lightly,” the Northern Irishman told Villa’s official website.

Liverpool haven't made a straight cash offer. They've made an offer involving a mish-mash of nameless player exchanges.

“I'm particularly disappointed to hear that business is being conducted in public and I just want to be clear on this: We're trying to build a side here and we're not a feeder club.

“We want to be trying to challenge. At some stage we want to get to the position that this football club once held. That will demand an awful lot of effort and it will take very, very good players.

“I don't want to be in a position of letting really good players go. Gareth Barry is a really good player who still has two years left on his contract.”

Disappointing

The Villans are currently battling for fifth place with the Reds’ Merseyside rivals Everton. Considering Liverpool’s season is all but over after their Euro exit, O’Neill says their timing beggars belief.

“I haven't discussed these things with him yet. At some stage obviously I will do, but the day before probably our most important game of the season is not the time to be discussing it.

“It's particularly disappointing to find out that Liverpool have carried the story in their local paper. It's certainly not the way that the Liverpool of old conducted business. I prefer to do things with a bit of privacy and a bit of confidentiality.

“So that's particularly disappointing, especially at this time, we've got two important games coming up. Liverpool's season might effectively be over as they've qualified for the Champions League and their interest in this season's [CL] ended a couple of nights ago.

'I'd rather be waiting until the end of the season before I discussed things.'

Villa face Premiership strugglers Wigan at home on Saturday.

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Well if you guys want him then good luck, no skin off my nose if you dont progress in the league next season infact id prefer it, will make you easier to catch Razz

I just think you should be aiming higher and in different positions.

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So Liverpool make the first 'initial' bid (quite low in my opinion, money wise; but with players in exchange it levels out a bit). Arsenal will probably be in shortly as Wenger had previously contacted Villa asking them to keep him in the loop of any bids. But knowing how Arsenal operate, we probably won't know till a contract is signed for one or the other.

torres99: Flamini is off to Milan. There have been rumors that he has already told the team that he has chosen Milan. It's not 100% fact, but the fact that the deadline Arsenal and Wenger set forth for Flamini to put a signature on the contract has passed leads me to believe it's quite accurate.


Now i dont follow Arsenal THAT closely, they bore me really but even I can see Wenger will not ever buy Gareth Barry unless there is a major u-turn in everything hes done at Arsenal up to this point.

He wants players that fit into his style, which is why he prefers not to buy established players. He wants kids or talented professionals that he can teach the push and run style too from day one so everyone in the squad can slot into the team seamlessly.

Barry is about as far from that kind of player as I can imagine.

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Ben91 wrote:
Laughing

O'Neill sure looks p*ssed off about all this.


That he is. And I don't blame the man really. £10 and Crouch for Barry. Hardly a good deal for Villa who are stacked up front with bright young talent.


Well translated into money, that's well over the odds for Barry. Crouch himself is worth easily over £10million (closer to £15million if you look at other English players' sales).

Gareth Barry ... where will/should he go?
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