anybody who has watched West Ham play in the last month or two would be pleased that we never let in more than 4 goals.

so you think a casual pinch is the equivalent of a red card offence? thats insane. absolutely insane.

of course the blame is on Nani. he headbutted an opponent. even ferguson had no complaints and thats saying something.

i dont think im being biased in saying that Lucas Neill should not have been sent off. i think im being logical.

id love to see how many people would actually suggest what Neill did was a red card offence. i reckon if i asked 1000 people only 1 would say it should be a red card. that one person wouyld be you.

Personally, I think we should forget this whole Nani/Neill deal because we're never gonna agree on what happened. And we are forgetting the most important moment of that game...Carlton Cole without his top on! Phew! Who knew what was under that beautiful claret and blue shirt

Yum!

you honestly make me sick

That's not very nice you big meanie! I'll be telling my buddy on you

This is what these boards have descended into.

I was just trying to lighten the mood

You've obviously never played any type of sports. There's always taunting among players, it's a part of the game. You get under the skin of the opponent to get an advantage. YES Man United do it too.

Nani is a scum. To think what Nani did reminded you of Zidane and Materazzi is a disgrace. Especially with the little acting job Nani did after his slight headbutt. "oh I headbutted you, but hurt myself in the process." Total joke. At least when Ronaldo headbutted someone (earlier this season and got himself a red card) he stood his ground and didn't act like a pansy.

that's why i mentioned in another thread that saying Gunners would beat toffees for 3-0 was like saying we're trashing the hammers.. which's impossible to happen.. but then we've got the unexpected result of 4-1..

then why'd such a pro player do that?.. i believe it's not a part of the tactic.. you know.. pinching people and then raising the arms to start things up.. where's the fair play?..

lucky fergie didn't say anything.. otherwise he might've been condemned as well..

yeah.. it's me who's being biased and not talking sense.. my bad..

thanks.. i prefer not being in the crowd most of the time..

have a nice day.. the league's soon over anyway..

thanks smurfy.. that's a good shout out after a while.. sometimes my words are hard to understand and i can't be bothered to explain thoroughly..

call any Man Utd players by any names you wish.. certainly nani's better in one thing.. he didn't headbutt his own teammates and i'm somehow 'happy' for that..

kthxbye

i must say that this, along with Ashtons lovely goal, was the highlight of the game for me

Keep it in the General Discussion section please ladies - This section is for Football Discussion

Yep and Carlton Cole is a West Ham player

Have already discussed the match, was only trying to calm the storm but I will refrain from doing so again.

Welcome back Steely, you've been quiet for a few days......I think we'd better make that 2 pints of bias please......

Now then......I'm a clever one am I......in that case be careful what you say around me

I already stated that Nani deserved his straight red for the so called 'pansy' head butt. If you move your head anywhere near an opponents face like that then you are going to get your marching orders partcularly when your opponent is going to feign injury like Neil did. Now I don't really feel inclined to defend Nani for the play acting that followed the 'pansy' head butt..... but your very biased post leaves me no option. Nani was merely following Neil's lead on the feigning injury part. I'm sure he thought that if Neil is going to do it then so would he. Like I said....they were as bad as each other. Neil should be ashamed of himself and so should Nani.

As for having my head up my arse.......I believe that my opinion in support of MY team is no more biased than your own. In fact my opinion is more balanced since I see BOTH players in the wrong. You can only see United's players being in the wrong along with all the other ABU's on this thread.

And Papasmurf......I expected a more grown up comment from someone like yourself.

Like it or not, Nani is scum (in my eyes and probably many others as well). I could honestly care less about the headbutt itself. Everyone loses their cool every now and then, and in a game of football things are said and done on the pitch that get under peoples skins. So his headbutt was a headbutt, soft or not, I really don't care for it.

What I do care and makes me personally think that Nani is a scum is his play acting after his headbutt. What is he trying to prove or do there? It's shameful. He's the one that did the headbutting, and then he's going to have a delayed reaction and fall to the ground in apparent agonizing pain himself? Hoping that the ref is dumb enough to think Neill headbutted him? That just shows lack of respect and is disgraceful. And to me, at this current time, Nani is a scum.

Fergie pinned it on his immaturity. And he's probably right. But immaturity or not doesn't mean he should shame himself even further by play acting at the end of it.

And what about Neil? His play acting was as good as Nani's.....but you seem to want to completely overlook that fact.

Yes his play acting was bad as well. But the difference here is that he took the headbutt and didn't dish it out. You see it all the time, the person that gets hit usually always over exaggerates it. Is it wrong? yes, but no way does he deserve a red as well. A yellow, maybe. People dive when a tackle comes in, people over exaggerate when a foul is committed against them. Is it wrong? yes.

The thing with Nani is that he did the headbutting and didn't want to Man Up to it. He was being a coward by going down as well. If I was to punch you in the face on the pitch (not that I would), I wouldn't crumble to the ground holding my fist in pain. I'd Man Up to my punishment knowing I was in the wrong unlike Nani.

If Nani just stood there after the headbutt, then I wouldn't think he's a scum, but due to his play acting after the incident makes me think he is.

Ronaldo headbutted someone earlier this year. I don't think he's a scum, he stood there after and took his punishment. Zidane headbutted someone on the biggest stage in football. I don't think he's a scum, he stood there and took his punishment.

I agree that Nani's behaviour is unacceptable and has no place in football, it was extremely immature and foolish of him to think he would get away with it, he made an error of judgement and I hope he learns his lesson. It was remeniscent of Dida the AC Milan goalkeeper who feigned injury when a Celtic fan brushed passed him.

Scum is a slang word and isn't very flattering to the more articulate when you are discussing something like football, despicable or worthless is a more grown up way of saying it. Scum is more applicable to someone killing innocent people, like a terrorist.