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  • specnur
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Wenger has also agreed a £16m deal to land Lyon winger Hatem Ben Arfa, beating Liverpool and Manchester United to his signature.

Gunners boss Arsene Wenger has rekindled his interest in Hamburg's £15m-rated Belgian centre back Vincent Kompany.


If both of these statements are true and we get both of them that be 2 great signing espically kompany soon to be 1 of best defenders in the world


i would not sign Ben arfa.If you watched that kid play this season then you would understand that his jealousy for Benzema makes him very unprofessional and not in the spirit of team play which is the biggest part of Arsenals make up.He's not even that good ,he's decent but get's a lot of attention because he's on the same team as the best young player in the world today.I think zidan of hamburg, who never sees playing time on the german side but was questionably the best player for egypt in the acn,is more effective than Ben Arfa.

If Hleb leaves then he first player i would go for is Mamadou Diarra of real Madrid.Real were never the same when Makelele left so it is no coincidence that once they put Diarra in that position they are champions again.IMo he is currently on of the best midfielders in the world,different from hleb but much needed for Arsenal now that flaimini is gone.

 
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Here's a fact for you my friend .I watch entire Newcastle games.Don't know if you read my other posts ,but i stated that Newcastle for a long time was one of the teams i watched religiously along with Portsmouth.I can say without any doubt that you do not watch more Premiership football than me.I have every game of the season in their entirety at my disposal from my satellite provider and the 40gig digital hard drive they provide.One more fact for you.The only NFL game i have watched since my 20 yrs on these shores was the last super bowl and that was in between watching real football.Now i will concede i am not physically at the Newcastle games ,but that can be an advantage to a degree as i am not influenced by my surroundings and opinions and therefore have a more honest view of events so to speak.

Now back to the issue at hand.You talk about these ten players better than Oba currently available to Arsenal yet you don't provide names.At least when i say something like that i back it up in the same passage with those facts.maybe you need time to provide such info,how 's 2 months for you?Because that's how long it will take before you realize that you are talking out of your *ss.

I don't know how anyone can question wengers interest in any player with his track record,you have to be out of your mind to question him in that area.Oba was the best striker on Newcastle from he day he got there and his goal tally from the lack of service he get's is testament to that.In comparison you look at owen's performance for the majority of the season and he was garbage.He even had to fall into mid field in an attempt to deflect the attention from comparisons in the two players success rate.So i don't give two sh*ts about what you and your beer buddies think ,it means nothing to me.
I watched a game the other day and i didn't hear Owens name mentioned until the 70th minute of the game,i was flabbergasted.I couldn't believe that he had played the entire game nad a never even knew he was on the pitch until the 70th minute ,that is outrageous.That sounds like a player that should be starting behind N'zogbia not in front of,you can't justify that to me in any way whatsoever.


Laughing

You really do make me laugh. If you have watched everyone of Newcastles last 10 games, and i mean every minute and you dont think Owen should be in the team, you need help. He scored six in six games, better the oba Wink (in the last 10 games that is). Anyways, why are we talking about Owen. It is clear you dont like him so its better if we leave him out of this.
If you could read you would see me ask if you want names. Look up the page and you will see Smile .
You see it? Ok heres my 10 better strikers then Oba:

van nistelrooy
Henry
santa cruz
Villa
Gudjohnsen
berbatov (Spurs would never sell him to Arsenal, but hes so much better)
klose
defoe
Eto'o
Crouch

(could have included others like torres and messi but that would be stupid)

Ok, theres 10 off the top of my head. Im sure you will come back saying that these are not as good as Oba but i would take any of these on a swap deal.
Im not gonna say that Oba is crap, and i have never ever said that. I have said that he has potential and loads of it. If anyone could get this out of him it would be Wenger. By the way i have said this in my last few posts but you seem to have the idea that im talking out my ass, which is a little unfair but thats your opinion. I dont care what you think of me and what i say. Im best placed to give a judgement on Oba and thats fact. Im happy that Oba has got some fans, he has been great for this club and i would be gutted to see him leave.

I really dont know why you think im talking out my ass. Laughing

edit: so how much is Oba worth?

 
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gooner4life92 wrote:
Wenger has also agreed a £16m deal to land Lyon winger Hatem Ben Arfa, beating Liverpool and Manchester United to his signature.

Gunners boss Arsene Wenger has rekindled his interest in Hamburg's £15m-rated Belgian centre back Vincent Kompany.


If both of these statements are true and we get both of them that be 2 great signing espically kompany soon to be 1 of best defenders in the world


I would love to have Kompany over at Arsenal. I thought he was off the market though? I remember Wenger put in a bid for him awhile back before he chose to go to Hamburg instead of Arsenal. I love the way he plays, with power and pace. And he's pretty good going forward as well.

 
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You need to name a player that can fill that void my man and play as effective as he is.
There is no other player on the planet that i have seen currently hat can do so with his consistency.You can't replace him it's really that simple.I wish he was replaceable then i wouldn't be going through so much mental torture right now.

gattuso no way in hell is he going to Arsenal ,maybe 4 years ago but not now.


You missed one of my posts when I mentioned Kranjcar. Wink He's not a direct replacement for Hleb, but can do similar things. He's creative and he's great as a player supporting a lone striker.

He's not as good as Hleb in the dibbling department (obviously), and doesn't keep possession as well. However, going forward and creating and scoring goals, Kranjcar is more than a competent replacement for Hleb. Kranjcar isn't afraid of putting a shot on goal like Hleb for some odd reason is. Also, as he's played for Portsmouth for a couple years now, he is already used to/accustomed to the physicality of the EPL and will not need any time to adjust/adapt.

 
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gooner4life92 wrote:
Wenger has also agreed a £16m deal to land Lyon winger Hatem Ben Arfa, beating Liverpool and Manchester United to his signature.

Gunners boss Arsene Wenger has rekindled his interest in Hamburg's £15m-rated Belgian centre back Vincent Kompany.


If both of these statements are true and we get both of them that be 2 great signing espically kompany soon to be 1 of best defenders in the world


I would love to have Kompany over at Arsenal. I thought he was off the market though? I remember Wenger put in a bid for him awhile back before he chose to go to Hamburg instead of Arsenal. I love the way he plays, with power and pace. And he's pretty good going forward as well.



yes that was correct but i suppose where he was young he wanted the experience needed to become a better player and going hamburg was properly better for him as he was not ready for the premiership but now he has grown and improved it may be his time Smile

 
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forgot to say but can you imagine our defence in years to come if we got kompany rb sagna cb kompany and nordtveit and on the left clichy what a back four i must say

 
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Rumor has it that Ben Arfa has already signed a contract with Arsenal after Arsenal have agreed a £15 million deal with Lyon. This actually goes to fuel the speculation that Lyon are on the verge of agreeing a deal with Samir Nasri.

And a couple quotes from Wenger concerning transfers.

'I know what I want and I am very confident,' he said.

'I hope to turn that around in the next two or three weeks. They (fans) should be re-assured by what they see.'

'It would be better to buy someone who has played in England because they are less risky, but it costs more money if they are from the Premier League,' Wenger said.

'Maybe I will try to do both.'


This goes to strengthen the possibility of him signing Kranjcar and Johnson.

As for the Adebayor issue about him asking £80k a week ... he's come out and stated that it's complete rubbish.

 
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Good buy, hes a good player who should fit in well with the rest of the team.

Wengers also had a blast at AC Milan today, anything that slates italian teams is worth a read Very Happy

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Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger has launched a scathing attack on AC Milan after the Italian club's capture of Mathieu Flamini this week.

Wenger told The Sun: "What is a big club? Is it only down to trophies? This club here has a history of being built by people of values.

"I'm not sure that in the history of Milan you'll find the same values this club has.

"And, for me, that is a big club, a club that comes out of people's desire to respect values. Look at our whole history, it's clean."

Allegations of corruption have dogged Milan owner and Italy's Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi throughout his time in office.

And the Arsenal boss says Berlusconi's successor will inherit a stained history.

He added: "It is vital a club maintains those values we have.

"That is why at the head of the club you have a responsibility to keep these values and to make sure people who come after you can be proud.

"They may say this manager didn't win enough trophies but the club has kept its reputation for the whole history. That is vital."

 
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I think it's a bit much. I don't think i would splash that much on him. Seems a bit risky, especially from what i've seen of him.

I'd rather sign Kranjar. But i don't know how much money Arsene has to spend, so i don't really know what i'd do.

 
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Good buy, hes a good player who should fit in well with the rest of the team.

Wengers also had a blast at AC Milan today, anything that slates italian teams is worth a read Very Happy

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Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger has launched a scathing attack on AC Milan after the Italian club's capture of Mathieu Flamini this week.

Wenger told The Sun: "What is a big club? Is it only down to trophies? This club here has a history of being built by people of values.

"I'm not sure that in the history of Milan you'll find the same values this club has.

"And, for me, that is a big club, a club that comes out of people's desire to respect values. Look at our whole history, it's clean."

Allegations of corruption have dogged Milan owner and Italy's Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi throughout his time in office.

And the Arsenal boss says Berlusconi's successor will inherit a stained history.

He added: "It is vital a club maintains those values we have.

"That is why at the head of the club you have a responsibility to keep these values and to make sure people who come after you can be proud.

"They may say this manager didn't win enough trophies but the club has kept its reputation for the whole history. That is vital."


Hypocritical asswipe, what exactly did he do with Sol Campbell? hmmm

 
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Something i heard that might interest Arsenal fans:

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Arsenal are seriously worried about the property market effecting their cashflow in the next few years. A large part of the loans they borrowed for the Emirates are secured against sales of Highbury Sqaure (the development of Highbury). With property prices falling, they are worried they will not be able to sell as quickly as they need to. These fears are already limiting their cashflow now

 
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Something i heard that might interest Arsenal fans:

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Arsenal are seriously worried about the property market effecting their cashflow in the next few years. A large part of the loans they borrowed for the Emirates are secured against sales of Highbury Sqaure (the development of Highbury). With property prices falling, they are worried they will not be able to sell as quickly as they need to. These fears are already limiting their cashflow now


Ummm, over 90% of the apartments have been sold.

Emirates was built for £430m. The loan that Arsenal took was for only £260m. They then replaced that bank loan with bonds. £210m worth of 13.5 year bonds and £50m of 7.1 year bonds. Beyond the revenue that's going to be generated by the housing at Highbury Square; the remainder of the Lough Road site is also being used for new housing, as are the surplus areas around the stadium at Ashburton Grove which will also bring in revenue to pay off this debt. (the latter possibly being an issue with the housing bust, but definitely not Highbury Square as 90% of it has been sold) Arsenal are also receiving £100m from Emirates for naming rights (over the course of the deal).

 
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Not sure if anyones already posted it but rumours have it that Wenger is keen to bring in Kolo's brother Yaya from Barcelona for 15 million.

 
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Rumor has it that Dunne of Manchester City might be on his way to Arsenal. He has spoken of his desire to leave the club should Eriksson be sacked this summer. And with Ericksson's sacking being likely, he should be on the move. Apparently he could be sold for as little as £1m (which I think is way low for Dunne, but that's what the rumors are saying).

There are also reports that Wenger is setting up a bid for Stuttgart striker Mario Gomez.

 
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£10m rated AC Milan midfielder Gennaro Gattuso could be a target for Arsenal, with the Italian international considering a move to the Premier League as a potential new challenge
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Barcelona are planning a mammoth bid for Arsenal’s Spanish midfielder Cesc Fabregas. The Catalan club may offer Samuel Eto’o, Deco, Eidur Gudjohnsen or former Gunner Thierry Henry in a part-exchange deal.

 
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Arsenal are chasing £15m rated Olympique Marseille attacking midfielder Samir Nasri who’s contract talks at hte French club have stalled (The Daily Star)

Samir Nasri is a hugely talented Frenchman, a 20 year old with an already impressive collection of matches under his belt. He plays the Arsene way, in much the same way as often mentioned fellow countrymen Ben Arfa and Benzema, and has been one of the main reasons that Marseille are back to being the force they once were. The French international has already seemingly made it clear he wants a move away and surely he will treat the Gunners with more respect than the last man they picked up from the South of France club! Do Arsenal fans rate Nasri? Or are there more than enough young talents in the squad?

so do you want nasri or do you have other targets in mind?

 
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Who was the last man they signed from Marseille?


I don't think Nasri is the type of player Arsenal need. He's better in the middle, and therefore would be wasted out on the wing at Arsenal.

 
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Flamini came from Marseille.

 
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Wasnt Sagna from Marseillie too?

 
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Wasnt Sagna from Marseillie too?


No, he came from Auxerre.

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